ilmor Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Andy, sounds great! Looks like you're finally acheiving your goals. As for "should have felt after it rolled off the line from SAI", I guess SAI would have had to have either sold it with only a 93 Tune, or provided an ability to switch. Woulda just been more expensive! Personally, I'm glad I don't have to pay for 93 octane; in fact, it'd be much better if I could use 87 octane in the SGT such as I do with my 5.0 (having 408 hp on 87 is nice). Hell - regular 87 is $4.05 / gallon where I live!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGJ Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Ilmor, I forget that the 91 versus 93 octane is an issue for many folks. I guess we are spoiled here in GA to have the 93 octane available. I filled up the Expedition last night and 93 premium in our area was $4.07. I agree...408HP on 87 octane is a sweet thing!! Just wish I could get 408 HP in my SGT...soon, I hope!! Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Ilmor, I forget that the 91 versus 93 octane is an issue for many folks. I guess we are spoiled here in GA to have the 93 octane available. I filled up the Expedition last night and 93 premium in our area was $4.07. I agree...408HP on 87 octane is a sweet thing!! Just wish I could get 408 HP in my SGT...soon, I hope!! Andy. Just to clarify...we do have 93 octane where I live - but the cost/gal. is ridiculous...I think near $4.50 in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Andy, if your SGT was running very rich I would definitely change the oil right away. You may have raw gas that entered the crank case diluting the oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGJ Posted February 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 07SGT - Thanks for the tip...I didn't realize that could be an issue. I did change the oil about 50 miles worth of use BEFORE I had the tuning changes done...do you think that would still be a potential problem? Is there any way to easily check the oil without completely draining the system? I just put Royal Purple in for the first time, and I'd hate to flush all that if its not necessary... Thanks, Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Never heard of this issue before...gas in oil if running rich, however in that event it would seem the the amount of fuel would be minimal and would evaporate rather quickly?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 The gas will dilute the oil if the mixture was set to extremely rich. I/we do not know just how rich Andy's SGT was set due to that canned tune. If it was extremely rich I would change the oil. Yes it is expensive to change Royal Purple but cheaper than engine wear and engine failure. If I remember correctly you suffered an extreme loss of mileage (MPG) which brought this issue to your attention. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGJ Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Yes...Strong exhaust fumes and mileage indicator dropped by about 20% on MPG readings. Personally, I don't think it was the Steeda canned tune, but more the lack of any fine tuning when the UDP and JBA shorty headers were added by the other shop. I asked Larry Day (LD's Performance) when he did the tune if he noticed anything different or unusual in the tune set up that would cause the MPG issues, but he said that when he builds the tunes from the ground up, he does not jump off their parameters. He writes from scratch the settings in the tuner for each tune without looking to what settings were previously used by the canned set up. I may call Larry Day and go over this with him to see if he thinks that it was running rich enough for me to be concerned about changing the oil at this point. If he can't tell enough either way to say for sure, well....then the oil will get changed just to be safe! I'll post up what Larry's comments may be on this one since he saw the car and also changed the V.V.T. sensor gasket/gromet on the driver's side valve cover on the same day. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Andy, just curious, would you change the oil right away if you only had the Motorcraft synthetic blend in the crank case? So is the price of the oil the only reason not to change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Andy, below are reasons to change the oil immediately: http://en.wikipedia....nkcase_dilution http://www.lubeng.com.au/assets/files/technitips/068_Motor%20Oil%20Degradation.pdf and: EFFECT OF FUEL ADULTERATION ON ENGINE CRANKCASE DILUTION Md. Ehsan1,*, Md. Mahmudur Rahman2 and Md. Hasan Saadi3 1Department of Mechanical Engineering, Bangladesh University of Engineering and Technology (BUET), Dhaka-1000 2Department of Textile Engineering, South East University, Dhaka, 3Graduate Engineer, Dhaka *Corresponding email: ehsan@me.buet.ac.bd Abstract: Excessive crankcase dilution of lubricating oil in petrol driven vehicles across Dhaka city have been reported recently. A field survey revealed that, gradual increase in the volume of lubricating oil was experienced irrespective of vehicle model, vehicle age and brand of lubricating oil used. The problem was found to originate from adulteration of fuel, probably with the intention of gaining undue financial benefits, stimulated by the high fuel price. Samples were collected from fuel stations across Dhaka and compared with base fuels collected from Eastern Refinery. Investigation of fuel properties like – density, distillation curve and visual colour indicated that, condensates from gas fields in around 15% by volume is being mixed with petrol for adulteration. Heavier components of the condensate is causing high rate of crankcase dilution of the lubricating oil in engines. Such dilution is reducing viscosity of the lubricating oil significantly, which may lead to high rate of engine wear and poor performance. Key Words: Crankcase Dilution, Fuel Adulteration, Distillation Curve, Fuel Density, Fuel Viscosity. INTRODUCTION Crankcase dilution is a phenomenon experienced in engines where accumulation of unburned gasoline in the crankcase takes place. An excessively rich fuel mixture or poor combustion allows a certain amount of gasoline to pass down between the pistons and cylinder walls and dilute the engine oil [1]. Some of the combustion gases may pass across the piston ring reaching the crankcase, termed as “Blow-by”. When a mixture of air and fuel enters the cylinder of an engine, it is possible for condensation of fuel to occur on the cooler parts of the cylinders. The condensate may wash the lubricating oil from the cylinder walls, travel past the piston rings and collect in the oil pan, thus diluting the lubricating oil, increasing volume and decreasing its viscosity. As a result this can lead to increased wear of engine components. Since the less volatile components of the fuel will have the greatest tendency to condense the degree of crankcase-oil dilution is directly related to the end volatility temperatures of the mixture. Crankcase dilution to a limited extent is allowed for an engine long in service. Typically this is less than 5% of the lubricating oil volume for an internal combustion engine before oil replacement is needed [2,3]. On the other hand, some consumption of lubricating oil is common during engine blow-by, but its amount is very small as long as the engine components like piston rings or valve guides do not wear out. The rate of oil consumption depends upon the quality and viscosity of the oil in the crankcase, the engine speed, the temperature and the amount of dilution and oxidization in the crankcase. Typically, lubricating oil consumption of about 1 liter per thousand kilometer vehicle run, requires a piston ring replacements in automotive engines [2]. In the recent years an unusual phenomenon have been widely experienced regarding the lubricating oil in spark ignition automotive engines, used in vehicles around Dhaka city, the capital of Bangladesh. After use for some period, an unusually large increase of volume of the lubricating oil have been experienced. The crankcase oil becomes diluted due to the mixing of less viscous gasoline components, its volume increases and viscosity decreases. This would increase component wear and hamper engine performance. The objective of this technical investigation was to – assess the extent of the problem, quantify the level of volume increase and to identify the cause of the phenomenon. EXTENET OF THE PROBLEM First in order to verify the claim and to assess the extent of the problem a field survey was carried out around different parts of Dhaka city. A specifically designed questioner was used for collecting information regarding the problem. The survey questioner included a number of queries regarding - the extent of the problem experienced, type and age of the vehicle engine, type of fuel used, type of fuel system and type of lubricating oil used. Altogether 73 sets of information was collected from the major stakeholders – which included 41 vehicle drivers, 18 auto repair mechanics, 5 lubricating oil vendors and 9 car diagnostic centers. A number of findings were revealed from the analysis of information collected from the field survey: �� More than 80% of the drivers and almost all the mechanics had experience of the problem and Effect of Fuel Adulteration on Engine Crankcase Dilution Journal of Mechanical Engineering, Vol. ME 41, No. 2, December 2010 Transaction of the Mech. Eng. Div., The Institution of Engineers, Bangladesh 115 most of them have noticed this in the last couple of years. �� The problem was almost entirely present in petrol driven vehicles only and rarely noticed by drivers using diesel fuel and CNG fuel only. �� The problem was present across a range of engine models produced by a number of different auto manufacturers. �� The problem was experienced both in new and used vehicles. �� Among the petrol driven engines it was present in both types – using carburetor and using electronic fuel injection systems. �� The problem was present in vehicles using a number of different brands of lubricating oils, which are commonly used in Bangladesh. At the time of the survey the price of fuels per liter was – Octane TK. 67, Petrol TK. 65, Diesel TK. 40 (1 US$ = 70TK., Taka, Bangladesh currency). Presently these are - Octane TK. 77, Petrol TK. 74 and Diesel TK. 44. In order to make a quantitative assessment two petrol driven vehicles were monitored in the transport pool of the university (BUET). The lubricating oil capacities of their 1500 cc. engines were around 3.5 liters. After driving about 1400 km the lubricating oil volume increased by about half a liter in both of the vehicles, which is about 15% increase in volume. The viscosity of the lubricating oil (SAE 20W50) measured at room temperature (30°C) using a Saybolt’s Universal Viscosimeter, was found to reduced significantly. The contaminated lubricating oil collected from the vehicles monitored showed a drop of viscosity from about 170 cSt (centistokes) at fresh condition, to less than 90 cSt, after 1400 km of vehicle run. PROBABLE REASONS OF EXCESSIVE CRANKCASE DILUTION Crankcase dilution to a limited extend, is typically experienced in any internal combustion engine. Low volatility components present in the fuel often are slow to vaporize after injection/intake into the cylinder. Some of these low volatility compounds and water formed during combustion can be condensed or deposited on the relatively cooler parts of the combustion chamber and cylinder wall. They can be absorbed or mixed with lubricating oil film and swept down into the crankcase by the normal scraping action of the piston's oil control rings. Some may be transferred to the crankcase with blow-by gases as shown in figure-1. The key feature of crankcase dilution is whether the amount is significant enough to cause any deterioration in the lubricant's performance. With most of the standard lubricating oils normal crankcase dilution creates only very small change in lubricant volume within their recommended replacement period [1,2]. Figure 1. Crankcase dilution inside the engine Figure 2. Location of fuel collections across Dhaka The lubricating oil, the fuel and the engine hardware are the three components that may play a vital role in such increase in crankcase dilution. During the survey it was revealed that fuel dispensers, lubricating oil vendors and vehicle dealers each claimed to be confident regarding their products and pointed to others for the situation. There could be three main reasons for the unusual increase of volume of lubricating oil used in a petrol engine : �� The lubricating oil may be going through some undesired progressive chemical changes causing increase of its volume. �� Fuel may have been leaking or mixing in the lubrication system due to some mechanical malfunction or fault in the engine system. Effect of Fuel Adulteration on Engine Crankcase Dilution Journal of Mechanical Engineering, Vol. ME 41, No. 2, December 2010 Transaction of the Mech. Eng. Div., The Institution of Engineers, Bangladesh 116 �� The proportion of low volatile components of the fuel may have been increased by contamination or adulteration causing excessive crankcase dilution. The survey revealed that the problem of large increase of lubricating oil volume had been experienced in engines using different brands of lubricating oils. So it is very unlikely that lubricating oils of a number of different brands would experience similar chemical changes, eliminating the first reason. The survey also revealed that the problem was experienced in engine models made by different manufacturers and it existed both in new and used engines. It was experienced by engines having a carburetor as well as those with electronic fuel injection. Since engines of different age, model and fuel technology all are experiencing the problem, it is very unlikely that it is sourced from the engine hardware, eliminating the second reason. Moreover the problem was not reported by drivers using diesel or only compressed natural gas (CNG) as fuel. Since all engines experiencing the problem are using the petrol or octane fuel available in Dhaka city, the third reason seems to be most likely to be responsible for large increase in volume of the lubricating oil used. Hence the focus of the investigation was concentrated on possible fuel adulterations. Although less common in the developed world, the effect of fuel adulteration on engine performance have been studied experimentally [4,5] and statistically [6] resulting poor engine exhaust emission [7,8] in a number of places. PHYSICAL QUALITY OF FUEL AVAILABLE IN DHAKA Some properties of petrol and octane fuel available in Dhaka were investigated to assess the degree of contamination or adulteration of fuel, if any. The physical appearance and colour of the fuel was visually observed, the density was measured and distillation characteristic of the fuel samples were studied. Fuel samples were collected from 14 different fuel stations within a span of several days. Figure 2 shows the distribution of these petrol stations across Dhaka city. Samples of Petrol (Octane Number, ON=88) and Octane (ON=95) fuels were also collected directly from Eastern Refinery Limited (ER) Chittagong, the only oil refinery of Bangladesh and this was considered as the base fuel (reference) for comparing the properties of fuel collected from the petrol pumps of Dhaka city. In addition fuel depots at Naryangang were visited and the marketprice of several potential contaminants was studied. The prices per liter during the survey were reported to be – Petrol TK.65, Octane TK.67, Kerosene TK.45, Diesel TK.40, Condensate from gas-fields TK.26, Thinner (spirit) used in painting TK. 80. Physical Appearance of Fuel Samples Figure 3(a). Colour comparison of petrol samples, arrow sizes indicate colour darkness. Figure 3( B). Colour comparison of octane samples, arrow sizes indicate colour darkness. The variation in physical appearance (colour) was readily visible among samples collected from different petrol pumps. Apparently this is more prominent in petrol sample compared to octane samples collected. Figure 3(a) and 3( B) exhibits the colour differences, indicating fuel adulteration. The arrow sizes beneath indicates colour darkness of samples. In Bangladesh the government regulation requires a colouring scheme for fuels - petrol is made yellow, octane is orange, diesel is orange-brown and kerosene is blue. Density of Fuel Samples The densities of all fuel samples were measured at 20°C. The values were compared to the density of sample of base fuels collected from Eastern Refinery (ER). The density of ER petrol was measured to be about 722 kg/m3 (g/cc) and 744 kg/m3 for ER Octane. The petrol samples collected from Dhaka Effect of Fuel Adulteration on Engine Crankcase Dilution Journal of Mechanical Engineering, Vol. ME 41, No. 2, December 2010 Transaction of the Mech. Eng. Div., The Institution of Engineers, Bangladesh 117 ranged from 726.2 to 747.1 kg/m3. However the Octane samples ranged from 741.4 to 756.5 kg/m3. The sample identification numbers as show in figure 4 are indicative only. Densities of few other fuels were also measured. Figure 5 shows the comparative densities of different fuels. The consistent higher densities of petrol indicated addition of heavier compounds with the fuel. 690 700 710 720 730 740 750 760 770 1 2 3 4 5 6 ER Petrol Samples Collected Density kg/m3 Figure 4(a). Comparison of densities of Petrol samples. 690 700 710 720 730 740 750 760 770 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ER Octane Samples Collected Density kg/m3 Figure 4( B). Comparison of densities of Octane samples 660 680 700 720 740 760 780 800 820 840 860 Diesel Petrol (ER) Octane (ER) Condensate (Titas) Kerosene Density, kg/m3 Figure 5. Comparison of densities measured of different types of colour coded fuels. Distillation Curve of Fuel Samples Distillation is the process of heating a liquid until it boils, capturing and cooling the resultant hot vapors, and collecting the condensed vapors. Distillation is a powerful tool, boiling point of a compound can be determined by distillation as it is a well-defined criteria. Thus it is one of the important physical properties of a compound by which it can be identified. Petrol is a complex mixture of large number of components which boil over a range of temperatures as shown in table-1[9]. The distillation properties of petrol are determined using a standard laboratory test like ASTM-D86. The results can then be plotted to produce a distillation curve as in the typical example shown in figure 6. The results can also be expressed as the percentage of the fuel volume evaporated at a specific temperature. The key characteristics of distillation properties of petrol are described by the percentage of fuel volume evaporated at 70, 100, 150ºC, and its final boiling point (FBP). Figure 6. Typical distillation curve for gasoline. Figure 7. Distillation-Unit used, DU-4 Professional Table-1: Boiling range of some typical refinery products. A manually operated D86-78 Distillation Unit (DU- 4), with condenser tube to the right (figure -7) composed of an electric heating assembly (with a maximum test temperature up to 400°C) and a cooling bath. The DU-4 consists of a stainless steel cabinet with an inspection window, flask support (adjustable in height) equipped with ceramic heating Product °C °F Motor Gasoline 30 – 200 80 – 400 Kerosene 140 - 260 280 – 500 Diesel Fuel (#2) 180 - 340 350 – 650 Lube Oils 340 - 540 650 - 1000 Effect of Fuel Adulteration on Engine Crankcase Dilution Journal of Mechanical Engineering, Vol. ME 41, No. 2, December 2010 Transaction of the Mech. Eng. Div., The Institution of Engineers, Bangladesh 118 plate carrying 4 encased and gold plated heater rods. Lower part of the heating assembly had an electronic heater module using which heating energy could be adjusted up to 800 watts. The DU-4 is ideal for the examination of motor gasoline, aviation gasoline, aviation turbine fuel, special boiling point spirits, naphtha, white spirit, kerosene, gas oil, distillate fuel oil and similar petroleum products. 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 0 20 40 60 80 100 % Volume of Vapor Temperature, °C Sample - 1 Sample - 2 Sample - 3 Sample - 4 Sample - 5 Estern Refinery Figure 8(a). Distillation curve of Petrol samples. 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 0 20 40 60 80 100 % Volume of Vapor Temperature, °C Sample - 1 Sample - 2 Sample - 3 Sample - 4 Estern Refinery Figure 8( B). Distillation curve of Octane samples. Figure 8(a) shows the comparison of distillation curves of several petrol samples collected with respect to the base fuel (ER). In all of the samples the distillation curves were recorded to be at higher temperatures (increase of 25-35°C) compared to the base fuel, clearly indicating the presence of components of lower volatility. As shown in figure 8( B) the rise is also present in some of the octane samples but as a whole the trend could not be generalized. This indicates greater degree of adulteration of petrol probably is happening compared to octane, this may be related to the fact that far more commercial vehicles are run on petrol. The high price of gasoline may have triggered the increase in fuel adulteration. Analysis of the market price of a number of available compounds indicated the high possibility of condensate from gas fields, which are available at a much lower cost may have been used in fuel adulteration. Figure 9(a) shows the distillation curve of base petrol and base octane and the relative position of measured curves of – Natural Gas Condensate (Titas), Kerosene and Diesel. Artificial mixtures of gas-field condensate with base fuel were made at various proportions (5- 20% v/v) and their densities and distillation characteristics were investigated. Figure 9( B) shows the comparison of the distillation curves of base petrol, base octane (ER), Titas condensate and an artificial mixture of 15% condensate with base petrol. As shown in figure 9( B) the distillation curve of the mixture lies very close to the average trend of distillation curves measured from collected petrol samples from different places of Dhaka city. The density of condensate was 819 kg/m3 and the 15% mixture was 736 kg/m3, very similar to the average (736.7 kg/m3) of the density range of petrol samples collected. 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 350 400 0 20 40 60 80 100 % Volume of Vapor Temperature, °C DIESEL CONDENSATE PETROL (ER) OCTANE (ER) KEROSINE Figure 9(a). Distillation curve of different fuels samples. 0 50 100 150 200 250 300 0 20 40 60 80 100 % Volume of Vapor Temperature, °C CONDENSATE PETROL (ER) OCTANE (ER) 15% CONDENSATE Figure 9( B). Distillation curve of 15% Condensate by volume with Petrol. DISCUSSION OF RESULTS Study of visual colour strongly indicated possible adulteration of petrol fuel samples. The density measurements in most cases were higher than the base fuels for petrol, but densities varied through a range for octane. This indicated the presence of components of higher densities being mixed and the fact that the degree of adulteration probably differs from pump station to pump stations in Dhaka. The presence of heavier hydrocarbons in the fuel shifted Effect of Fuel Adulteration on Engine Crankcase Dilution Journal of Mechanical Engineering, Vol. ME 41, No. 2, December 2010 Transaction of the Mech. Eng. Div., The Institution of Engineers, Bangladesh 119 the distillation characteristics, especially the tail-end volatility of the fuel towards higher temperature. The rise of the distillation curves are very conclusive of mixing of fluids of lower volatility in case of petrol samples. Addition of less volatile liquids shifts the distillation curve higher in temperature scale, causing some of these components to remain liquid inside the combustion chamber during combustion, which gradually dilutes the lubricating oil, causing this high rate of crankcase dilution. In case of octane samples there is indication of adulteration in some samples, but not sufficient to draw any conclusion regarding a generalized trend. It could be mentioned here that most of commercial vehicles are run on petrol, rather than Octane. It is very difficult to positively identify which fluid or fluids have been used for adulteration of petrol. Hence the possibility of using a number of prospective liquids for fuel adulteration was anaylsed. Visually petrol is available coloured in yellow, diesel is orange-brown, kerosene is blue. So mixing one in other would cause a definite trend of color change. Diesel is close in colour but it has much higher distillation temperatures compared to petrol. Adulteration using Diesel would generally result in a higher effect in distillation curve than that experienced from the samples. Mixing diesel in small proportion would not give the lucrative economic benefit. Kerosene is also relatively costly and it would require additional de-colouration to achieve visual similarity. Thinner (spirit) is much more expensive and not easily available in large bulks. However since condensate is not recognized as an end-user fuel, is not artificially colour coded and is almost colourless. This makes it easer to mix with petrol or octane. The absence of coding colour, relatively lower cost and bulk availability makes it the strongest candidate for petrol adulteration. Looking at the potential fluids - that can be mixed with petrol, the level of rise in the distillation curve experienced and very importantly their relative cost, condensates collected from gas fields or pipelines some how available in the market seems to be a very likely candidate. To verify such a possibility a range of artificial mixtures (5-20% of condensate by volume) of natural gas field condensates and base petrol were tested. Out of these the distillation curve of the mixture containing 15% condensate by volume with base petrol showed close similarity with the mean characteristics of distillation curves of collected samples. The density of the mixture of 15% condensate by volume with base petrol was found to be 736 kg/m3, very similar to the collected average density (736.7 kg/m3) of petrol samples. As shown in figure 8(a) and 9( B) the distillation curve of the mixture lies in a region centrally to distillation curves measured from collected petrol samples from different places of Dhaka city. The similar density, distillation characteristics and financial factor very strongly indicates to adulteration of petrol using gas-field distillates, which have been supported by some information gathered during the field-survey. However detailed chemical or Photo-thermal analysis [5] of the fuel samples and contaminated lubricant could be more confirmatory but those were beyond the scope of this investigation. The physical properties of the mixture indicated very high possibility of condensates being mixed in the order of 15-20% by volume for petrol fuel adulteration. This could be giving some financial benefit (in the order of Taka 6 per liter of petrol) to certain quarters, but as a result causing excessive crankcase dilution and deterioration of lubrication performance and hence compromising the engine life. The contaminated lubricating oil collected from the vehicles monitored in BUET measured at room temperature showed a drop of viscosity from about 170 cSt at fresh condition, to less than 90 cSt, over 1400 km of vehicle run, which is really concerning if it remains unattended by vehicle driver. CONCLUSIONS The problem of excessive crankcase dilution is widely present in the petrol driven vehicles across Dhaka city, irrespective of - vehicle make, model or age and brand of lubricating oil used. This was reflected in a field survey. The source of the problem lies in adulteration of fuel used, associated with the intention of acquiring undue financial benefits, stimulated by the high fuel price. Among the possible liquids mixed with petrol, condensates collected from natural gas-fields and transmission pipelines is the most likely candidate. Fuel samples were collected across Dhaka City and compared with base fuels collected from Eastern refinery. Investigation of some fuel properties like – visual colour, density and distillation curves indicated that, condensates around 15% by volume are being mixed with petrol for adulteration. Heavier components of the condensate is causing high rate of crankcase dilution of the lubricating oil in engines run on petrol. Such dilution is increasing volume and reducing viscosity of the lubricating oil significantly, which may lead to high rate of engine wear and poor performance. ACKNOWLEDGEMENT The authors would like to acknowledge the support of the faculty and laboratory staff of Department of Petroleum and Mineral Resources Engineering (PMRE) of BUET, for allowing the use of distillation apparatus in their laboratory and supplying some gas-field condensate samples. The authors would like to acknowledge the support of the authority of Eastern Refinery Limited, Chittagong, for supplying samples which were used as base fuels for the analysis. Effect of Fuel Adulteration on Engine Crankcase Dilution Journal of Mechanical Engineering, Vol. ME 41, No. 2, December 2010 Transaction of the Mech. Eng. Div., The Institution of Engineers, Bangladesh 120 REFERENCES [1] Obert Edward F., “Internal Combustion Engines and Air Pollution”, Harper and Row Publishers, ISBN No. 0-352-04560-0. [2] “Motor Oil Degradation”, Technical Article No. 68, Publication of Lubrication Engineers, Lubrication Engineers Inc., Texas USA 2006. [3] Margaroni, D., 1999, “Extended Drain Intervals for Crankcase Lubricants”, Journal of Industrial Lubrication and Tribology, Volume 51, Issue 2, pp 69 -76. [4] Bahari, M. S., Criddle, J. W. and Thomas, D. R., G., 2007, “Study of the Determination of the Adulteration of Petrol with Kerosene using Fuel Cell Based Equipment”, Paper No. AN9921700701, Proceedings of the Royal society of Chemistry, pp. 701- 706. [5] Lima J. A. P., Massunaga, M. S. O. and Vargas, H., Miranda L. C. M., 2004, “Photothermal Detection of Adulterants in Automotive Fuels”, Journal of Analytical chemistry, vol. 76, no. 1, pp. 114 -119. [6] Wiedemann, L. S. M., d'Avila L. A. and Azevedo., D. A., 2005, “Adulteration Detection of Brazilian Gasoline Samples by Statistical Analysis”, Fuel, Volume 84, Issue 4, March 2005, Pages 467- 473. [7] Ale. B. B., 2003, “Fuel Adulteration and Tailpipe Emissions”, Journal of the Institute of Engineering, Nepal, Vol. 3, No. 1, December 2003, pp. 12 – 16. [8] Bovel G., 2004, “Manila Policy Dialogue on Environment and Transport in the Asian Region”, Policy Report, Session 4 : Cleaner Fuels for Vehicles United Nations University, Institute of Advanced Studies, Manila, December 2003. [9] Heywood, J. B., “Internal Combustion Engine Fundamentals”, McGraw-Hill International Publishers, ISBN 0-07-100499-8, 1988. Fuel Dilution- Ambient temperatures, air-fuel ratios, fuel volatility and mechanical conditions of the engine are factures that directly influence the amount of crankcase oil dilution. Low temperature operation and worn cylinder bores and rings will also produce a high amount of dilution. Five or six percent fuel dilution in a gasoline engine’s crankcase oil, is the maximum that should be allowed. This will reduce the SAE grade of the crankcase oil by one number. With improper engine operation, it is possible to dilute the crankcase oil sufficiently so that there may be metal-to-metal contact in the bearings. Excessive dilution in the crankcase should never be disregarded, as it means that something is wrong, either with the engine or with the manner in which it is being operated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Good luck whatever you decide to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGJ Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 If it was Motorcraft oil versus Royal Purple, I'd still change either one if it appears that running too rich could have caused an oil issue...I guess my point was that I just paid to have the oil changed with a quality oil and I hate to waste the money if the risk was relatively minor. Also, I had never heard of this issue, so I was in unfamiliar territory and was asking mainly for more details and suggestions to help me evaluate how much potential I have of greater contamination than normal. In the end, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, so once I get back from our short trip, I'll just get the oil changed simply for peace of mind. Thanks for all the info and the lesson. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Don't think of it as being taught a lesson. Just think of it as a lot of us on this site have a lot of experience and we are willing to share so as to help others. When in doubt change. I am sure there are others, including yourself, that are willing to help when you can. That is what it is all about. I noticed you are very willing to help by apprising others what you have learned about the results of your mods including the UD pulleys, the Steeda tune, and others. Personally I look forward to seeing the dyno test in the near future. Keep up the good work. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewnagle1964 Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 Well, I finally have an appointment with Pro-Dyno in Fort Mill SC for 10 days from now (Wednesday the 27th) I will post the dyno graph once I get home, I am sure it will be an all day adventure 8 am appointment with over a 2 drive in front of me. Going to have 2 tunes a N2O and non N2O, finally bought a SCT tuner so I can swap them at will. Been driving around on a N20 tune for 18 months. Current performance mods FRPP Stuff M-6009-A463 Aluminator Forged Internals 9.8:1 compression ratio M-9424-463V Intake Manifold M-6050-463P CNC Heads M-6550-3V Hot Rod High Lift Cams M-9926-3V Throttle Body M-4209-G410 4.10 Gears M-12405-3V12 0 degree Spark plugs American Racing Long Tube Headers 1 3/4” Hi-Flow cats and X pipe Bosch 39lb Fuel Injectors Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump 40 Amp PA Performance 6G Alternator 130 AMP Powder Coated White Triangle Speed Shop Billet Gear Oil Pump Steeda Carbon Fiber Intake Elbow Fore Precision High Flow Fuel Rails Black Billet Aluminum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Ooooo! Goody-goody! I'll guess 370-375hp. Assuming ~12% loss that's ~425-430 at the crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hey guys, I run a 4.6 based engine in my race car, Its NA by rule. The original motor had long tubes, Stage 3 heads, HR cams and FR intake. It made right around 360 at the wheels. I have since went to a 4.6 based 5 liter and she hust got off the dyno this week. It pulled 403 at the wheels. These engines can go a long ways NA. By the way, either engine was very tame at idle. The first engine was sold to a guy who put it in he GT. He could not have been happier. One thing I have to say. A tuner that can adjust while tuning is a much better choice in IMHO. And that is just my opinion. BTW, both engines would run on 91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGJ Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Hey guys, I run a 4.6 based engine in my race car, Its NA by rule. The original motor had long tubes, Stage 3 heads, HR cams and FR intake. It made right around 360 at the wheels. I have since went to a 4.6 based 5 liter and she hust got off the dyno this week. It pulled 403 at the wheels. These engines can go a long ways NA. By the way, either engine was very tame at idle. The first engine was sold to a guy who put it in he GT. He could not have been happier. One thing I have to say. A tuner that can adjust while tuning is a much better choice in IMHO. And that is just my opinion. BTW, both engines would run on 91 svttim, One set-up that I was considering (and would like to get input on) would be to add the FRPP Stage 1 Heads and the FRPP Intake. This may sound crazy (so don't throw me under the bus here), but I was going to leave off the FRPP Hot Rod Cams for now. If that gets me to 400+ HP on a N/A motor and a tame sounding machine, then I would be happy. Of course, I'm still going to add the 3.73 gears as well. I know the HR Cams would really add a lot to it, but I'm just worried about the roughness it would bring to the idle with the Steeda motor mounts. Any thoughts?? Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT93 Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 svttim, One set-up that I was considering (and would like to get input on) would be to add the FRPP Stage 1 Heads and the FRPP Intake. This may sound crazy (so don't throw me under the bus here), but I was going to leave off the FRPP Hot Rod Cams for now. If that gets me to 400+ HP on a N/A motor and a tame sounding machine, then I would be happy. Of course, I'm still going to add the 3.73 gears as well. I know the HR Cams would really add a lot to it, but I'm just worried about the roughness it would bring to the idle with the Steeda motor mounts. Any thoughts?? Andy. I don't think it would be too bad. I thought my car rumbled a lot when I put the cam in, but now I don't even notice it. I'm sure at first it would seem rough and make you unhappy, but a good tune and some time with it would take care of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 El Shelby, I had my calculator out and I think you are right on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I'm very interested in doing the same with my SGT. Just don't have the cash for all of it at once. My plan is to build the foundation before building power. 1. 4:10 Gears, Lwr & Upr Controls, relocation brackets. 2. 110mm Intake, Long/mid length headers (American Racing or Kooks) 3. 62mm Throttlebody (Ford Racing or L&M) 4. Cams (Hotrod or Detroit Rocker) 5. Ford Racing Manifold 6. One piece driveshaft. Going with gears and headers 1st should mitigate the torque loss from the cams and manifold later. This is all assuming I don't change my mind and send my SGT to Vegas for an SC. The SGT will be paid off in ~12 months so things should get exciting shortly after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 svttim, One set-up that I was considering (and would like to get input on) would be to add the FRPP Stage 1 Heads and the FRPP Intake. This may sound crazy (so don't throw me under the bus here), but I was going to leave off the FRPP Hot Rod Cams for now. If that gets me to 400+ HP on a N/A motor and a tame sounding machine, then I would be happy. Of course, I'm still going to add the 3.73 gears as well. I know the HR Cams would really add a lot to it, but I'm just worried about the roughness it would bring to the idle with the Steeda motor mounts. Any thoughts?? Andy. I did not find the cams objectionable at all. but, you can add them later. Youll just have to pay for them later if you decide to go with it. Keep in mind, the engine is a system from the CAI to the exhaust tip. More air in on one end needs to be moved through the system on the other end. A restriction in the system will limit the entire system and once that restriction is removed, there is usually another restriction thats surfaces until you get to the point where you remove them all and start loosing torque. Without a dyno session, I am not sure how you verify the direction you have taken is really helping. Certainly Ford Racing can help you with some ideas or you can turn to someone like Rehagen Racing who has experience with the motors in several forms but, you still need to dyno the car. Data is king. Let me through another wrench in the system, those that say tourqe is king on the street are correct but, that being said, torque is not the strong point of these engines. Gearing is the cure for a lot of its woes but not a cure all. My race car will run with cars with 200 more HP. Of course handling is the main reason but the other reason is the transmission. I run a Boss 302R Tremec. It keeps the engine in the power curve much better than what a 5 or another 6 speed transmission can. Not that I would suggest that particular transmission, you would be shifting a lot but, I think this is one area people forget to look at. Making power and keeping the car in the power band are separate issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewnagle1964 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 With the below mods (no N20) 356 rwhp 331 torque Dan @ Pro-Dyno is the man! (Thanks to Craig G aka SGT/SC2873 for the recommendation) Will post Dyno sheet once I get home Not sure where we are headed with the nitrous but will keep everyone posted. Andrew Well, I finally have an appointment with Pro-Dyno in Fort Mill SC for 10 days from now (Wednesday the 27th) I will post the dyno graph once I get home, I am sure it will be an all day adventure 8 am appointment with over a 2 drive in front of me. Going to have 2 tunes a N2O and non N2O, finally bought a SCT tuner so I can swap them at will. Been driving around on a N20 tune for 18 months. Current performance mods FRPP Stuff M-6009-A463 Aluminator Forged Internals 9.8:1 compression ratio M-9424-463V Intake Manifold M-6050-463P CNC Headsy M-6550-3V Hot Rod High Lift Cams M-9926-3V Throttle Body M-4209-G410 4.10 Gears M-12405-3V12 0 degree Spark plugs American Racing Long Tube Headers 1 3/4” Hi-Flow cats and X pipe Bosch 39lb Fuel Injectors Kenne Bell Boost-a-Pump 40 Amp PA Performance 6G Alternator 130 AMP Powder Coated White Triangle Speed Shop Billet Gear Oil Pump Steeda Carbon Fiber Intake Elbow Fore Precision High Flow Fuel Rails Black Billet Aluminum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Not as high as I was guessing but still very nice numbers. Again, assuming 12% loss thats just a hair over 400hp on the motor. I'm curious how much the heads contributed to the number. How many miles do you have on the new motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewnagle1964 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 Not as high as I was guessing but still very nice numbers. Again, assuming 12% loss thats just a hair over 400hp on the motor. I'm curious how much the heads contributed to the number. How many miles do you have on the new motor? Probably 5,000 on the new motor. I was pleased as punch with the tuning Dan did. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 5k, you are just broken in. Not that you need it, but there may still be more power in it as motor seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGJ Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Probably 5,000 on the new motor. I was pleased as punch with the tuning Dan did. Andrew Andrew, Any updates on your motor since last Dyno numbers? I'm on hold for any more motor upgrades for now with my dream build, but I did just order the SPP Watts link for the car....that Track Weekend is coming back up in January, so I went for better handling for now. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewnagle1964 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Andrew, Any updates on your motor since last Dyno numbers? I'm on hold for any more motor upgrades for now with my dream build, but I did just order the SPP Watts link for the car....that Track Weekend is coming back up in January, so I went for better handling for now. Andy. Nothing new just driving it and loving it. Still need to head down to Pro-Dyno for the N20 tune but work and travel have kept me busy this summer/fall Let me know how you like the watts link. Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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