robertlane Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Shelby/ Wilwood Front 6-Piston Big Brake Kit When Shelby American wanted to try out some new brakes to use on the production line they were seriously impressed with the Wilwood Big Brake kit. They proved to stop faster, stay cooler, and last longer then anything on the market. We worked with them on making sure our needs were met and Shelby Performance Parts is proud to offer the same brakes that are available on the heavy hitter Shelby Super Snake, the corner carving GT350, and optional on the Shelby GTS. Built with two piece 6 piston calipers they will allow you to brake later giving you every last second of speed while getting around your favorite course. They are available in either red, black, or nickel plated which is used exclusively on the Shelby GT350The rotors are massive directionally veined 14" two piece rotors that are cross drilled and slotted to assist with cooling as well as keep the pads clean. The kit comes with special compound pads that are perfectly matched to the rotors. All mounting hardware is included with the kit as well as brand new ungraded stainless steel braided brake hoses. To complete the look of having big brakes on all four corners look at the Shelby/ Wilwood Rear 4-Piston Big Brake Kit available here. Click here to learn more about this product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Robert, any chance these will be offered in more colors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbackg Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 They look GREAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
91z28350 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Any chance they will match Brembo and offer a 15" front rotor? The Brembo's work great, seems to me that most people who are changing brakes are going for a matched front/rear set. I admit I am also interested in a matching set, but the 6 piston Brembo's from the '13's look really good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyburd33 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Robert, can you tell us what the minimun offset an 18" front wheel needs to have for these to fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbj Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 This product appears to be what was put on my GTS. Guess I will find out tomorrow upon delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious_stang Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 ill wait for a rear set, nothing wrong with my brembos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 ill wait for a rear set, nothing wrong with my brembos +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 Just saw these http://www.shelbystore.com/Shelby-Wilwood-Rear-Big-Brake-Kit-p/z59-s5mk-2300-ur.htm Upgrade or downgrade for 13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madlock Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 If only Ford Racing and Brembo would join forces to develop a rear-end kit - which actually requires just the rear mounting components Bear, Wilwood and AP have figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 AP Racing is a Brembo company..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amigo GT500 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Robert....my SS is coming with those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleghornm Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Why are the Baer brakes still so much more than Wilwood brakes. If the Wilwood's stop better than the Baer's then don't you think the should at least be the same price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madlock Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Behold the power of marketing - and Shelby's traditional markup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Mustang Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Shelby/ Wilwood Front 6-Piston Big Brake Kit When Shelby American wanted to try out some new brakes to use on the production line they were seriously impressed with the Wilwood Big Brake kit. They proved to stop faster, stay cooler, and last longer then anything on the market. We worked with them on making sure our needs were met and Shelby Performance Parts is proud to offer the same brakes that are available on the heavy hitter Shelby Super Snake, the corner carving GT350, and optional on the Shelby GTS. Built with two piece 6 piston calipers they will allow you to brake later giving you every last second of speed while getting around your favorite course. They are available in either red, black, or nickel plated which is used exclusively on the Shelby GT350The rotors are massive directionally veined 14" two piece rotors that are cross drilled and slotted to assist with cooling as well as keep the pads clean. The kit comes with special compound pads that are perfectly matched to the rotors. All mounting hardware is included with the kit as well as brand new ungraded stainless steel braided brake hoses. To complete the look of having big brakes on all four corners look at the Shelby/ Wilwood Rear 4-Piston Big Brake Kit available here. Click here to learn more about this product. Gonna have to disagree with you Robert... saying these Shelby/Wilwood are a better brake than the Shelby/Baer is not a factual statement. Put it to the test and I mean use the same car and same driver and actually do it or stop saying it because those of us who have used them know the facts. I waited to order a 2013 GT350 for my own reasons but now having to use the Wilwoods from Baer's I have on every car I got does not make me happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Mustang Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Why are the Baer brakes still so much more than Wilwood brakes. If the Wilwood's stop better than the Baer's then don't you think the should at least be the same price? They're only saying this because I know they are getting the Wilwood's 50 percent less cost than the Baer's and sorry but never skimp on the brakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madlock Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 They're only saying this because I know they are getting the Wilwood's 50 percent less cost than the Baer's and sorry but never skimp on the brakes! Does that mean you favor the Wilwoods or the Baers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afdharley Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Behold the power of marketing - and Shelby's traditional markup. I just checked the willwood page and price is the same as Shelby. I don't see a markup in price that you refer to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madlock Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I was referring to the steep price of the Baer Extremes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afdharley Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I was referring to the steep price of the Baer Extremes. Oh, my bad..........carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleghornm Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Still dont' see a response that would explain the very large difference in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Baers are known to leak. Baers are known to be expensive. Baers are still on inventory at Shelby. Baers are not discounted by Shelby. Wilwoods are said to be better brakes I do not quite get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Baers have always been over priced in my opinion, how else could the Baers be sold at nearly 50% off at times? Both Willwood and Baer make a good product, but I'll spend my money wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madlock Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 It'd be one HELL of a lot easier if Brembo would simply make a Mustang-compatible rear set - or even if an aftermarket miller were to make compatible caliper mounting parts. At the end of the day, that's all that Baer, Wilwood, AP Racing and anybody else did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 It'd be one HELL of a lot easier if Brembo would simply make a Mustang-compatible rear set - or even if an aftermarket miller were to make compatible caliper mounting parts. At the end of the day, that's all that Baer, Wilwood, AP Racing and anybody else did. That's a bit of an over simplification..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madlock Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 That's a bit of an over simplification..... Not by much. The principle and mechanics of applying a piston-driven clamping force to a rotating disc doesn't vary one hell of a lot from one vehicle to another be it a Beetle or Bugatti. The most significant variance from one to another is how it's stuck to the hunk of mass it's meant to stop. Very few brake makers pull out a clean sheet of paper to make products for a new application. In fact, most strive to work from the most complete starting point possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Mustang Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Baers are known to leak. Baers are known to be expensive. Baers are still on inventory at Shelby. Baers are not discounted by Shelby. Wilwoods are said to be better brakes I do not quite get it... Based on what your opinion? Show facts Mr. Brake Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Not by much. The principle and mechanics of applying a piston-driven clamping force to a rotating disc doesn't vary one hell of a lot from one vehicle to another be it a Beetle or Bugatti. The most significant variance from one to another is how it's stuck to the hunk of mass it's meant to stop. Very few brake makers pull out a clean sheet of paper to make products for a new application. In fact, most strive to work from the most complete starting point possible. You are correct about the mechanics, but just slapping on a larger caliper in the rear is a good way to find you and your car in a mangled mess. All of the larger rear kits offered take into account brake balance or bias which is not a trivial concern, so yes, you have over simplified it. The brakes on the GT500 are excellent brakes and Brembo will never offer a rear caliper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Based on what your opinion? Show facts Mr. Brake Man It's not an opinion and I am not an expert, Mr. 39Mustang. You are 100% right! Proof? I am asking the question, cause I do not get it Leaks: You have numerous topics on that! Many on this TS forum... Be it the bleeder's leaks or the piston's seals. Many topics about the subject on other websites. If you have Baers Extreme and have not had any issue you are lucky! (Do you?) You think I speak about something I do not know about? Think twice, I have had Baers Extreme front brakes on my GT500 and took them off. Replaced with the stock ones after ruining a set of painted rims with brake fluid. I still have the Baer system in a box. Expensive: Just compare the Wilwoods to the Baers and you have your answer. Inventory: Just look at the online shop. Discount: I asked the shop already. Wilwood= better: I have been told that at the Shelby shop in LV two weeks ago while visiting. So what have you to say to help me understand why a better brake system is half as expensive as a bad one that is still on the inventory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT0547 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 You are correct about the mechanics, but just slapping on a larger caliper in the rear is a good way to find you and your car in a mangled mess. All of the larger rear kits offered take into account brake balance or bias which is not a trivial concern, so yes, you have over simplified it. The brakes on the GT500 are excellent brakes and Brembo will never offer a rear caliper. I'm sure this has more to do with the way they are mounted on a typical straight axle like we have in the current S197 platform... But GM has been offering the 4-wheel Brembo Pkg on the SS Camaro with the IRS since 2010... Personally, I am OK with having the Brembos only on the Fronts of my BOSS... Better pads, cooling ducts and Hi-Temp fluid and you can run all day long at the track... However, from an Appearance point-of-view, I would prefer to have a matching set of Brembos on the Rear... At least on the BOSS/GT500, the OEM rear calipers are painted black so they tend to blend in a little better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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