J&DGT500 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Got a call from my local sales person today somebody who purchased it gave it up with only 300 miles on it, seems they could not afford it. I do not know much about this car other than it appears to have both options and was originally from a dealer in NJ. They are asking 45k which would be $1,425 over sticker for the car new, not sure how flexible they are. Listing is here: http://www.tommasano.com/detail-2012-ford-mustang-2dr_cpe_boss_302-used-7674133.html Phone number is 610-777-1371 and I would ask for Dottie. I have dealt with her for several purchases now and have always come away happy and anybody I have referred that has gone to see her have always been very happy with her as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Over sticker for a used car? Wait, I'm doing that for a 6 year old GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMcGuirk Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Got a call from my local sales person today somebody who purchased it gave it up with only 300 miles on it, seems they could not afford it. I do not know much about this car other than it appears to have both options and was originally from a dealer in NJ. They are asking 45k which would be $1,425 over sticker for the car new, not sure how flexible they are. Listing is here: http://www.tommasano...ed-7674133.html Phone number is 610-777-1371 and I would ask for Dottie. I have dealt with her for several purchases now and have always come away happy and anybody I have referred that has gone to see her have always been very happy with her as well. Smoking wacky tobacky trying to get an ADM on a used car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony356 Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 There are regular 302's all over eBay for sticker. They are basically in leftover status come mid-September. Where is my track key? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Rodgers Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Smoking wacky tobacky trying to get an ADM on a used car! Agreed Even if they would come down I would not even try based on the stupidity of the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Agreed Even if they would come down I would not even try based on the stupidity of the asking price. +1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEDEMAN Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Smoking wacky tobacky trying to get an ADM on a used car! +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 What if the track key never is released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 What if the track key never is released. It would be a major black eye for FoMoCo... even though the California Air Resources Board (CARB) is responsible for the holdup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 It would be a major black eye for FoMoCo... even though the California Air Resources Board (CARB) is responsible for the holdup. What is the full story there? I understand California doesn't like they fact that the emissions are affected by the track key but what I haven't heard is if it passes emissions with the track key in use. Put another way, is the issue with the tune or is it with the idea of changing the tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 What is the full story there? I understand California doesn't like they fact that the emissions are affected by the track key but what I haven't heard is if it passes emissions with the track key in use. Put another way, is the issue with the tune or is it with the idea of changing the tune? EL, Maybe this Jalopnik article helps explain the nonsense... California is why you can't get the Boss Mustang TracKey Ford's Trackey setup for the Mustang Boss 302 promised to unlock the pony car's racing side with special software engaged by a separate key. Yet nearly a year after being announced, Trackey still isn't for sale, thanks to bickering between Ford and California environmental regulators. In theory, the system changes more than 200 engine parameters using software installed by dealers that give the 302 Boss a racing personality, including such useful tricks as launch control. By tying it to a key and software, all the owner has to do once off-track is simply start the car with a regular key, restoring the everyday personality of a 444-hp Mustang. As Ford said when it announced Trackey last November, "anything that could possibly affect all-out performance is deleted from the TracKey calibration." That's where California comes in. Because it's an add-on part that affects engine emissions, Ford needed to have Trackey approved by the California Air Resources Board. Doing so required Ford to meet CARB's three big rules for aftermarket parts: They can't worsen emissions, affect the engine's durability or mess with on-board computer diagnostics. So far, Ford hasn't been able to do that. CARB and Ford declined to be more specific about the issues with Trackey. John Swanton, air pollution specialist with CARB, did tell Jalopnik manufacturers often have a little room to boost the performance of their standard vehicles with bolt-on parts without worsening emissions — but that the rules are clear. Another thing about CARB: Like a license office, it handles approvals on a first-come, first-serve system. If someone gets to the front of the line without having their papers in order, they have to go to the back of the line and wait, which is what Mustang Boss 302 owners will have to do for some time to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Great example of government over-regulation hurting businesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EL SHELBY Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 So can Ford not sell the Key after the sale thru Ford Racing and label it as 'offroad use only'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J&DGT500 Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 There are regular 302's all over eBay for sticker. They are basically in leftover status come mid-September. Where is my track key? Yea I think the sales manager is crazy asking over sticker also. As for the track key: http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/22/how-californias-laws-are-holding-up-the-ford-mustang-boss-302s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT/SC#0471 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Great example of government over-regulation hurting businesses. No shit. Why Ford does not mak it 49 state available is a loss to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J&DGT500 Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 No shit. Why Ford does not mak it 49 state available is a loss to me. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT-C0056 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 All the Boss 302 should just come with the track key only tune from ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 CA is without a doubt the most screwed up state with the most goofy and messed up emissions laws. When I bought my SVT Focus a couple years ago out there, I had to get the car to pass emissions before I could get the title to take it out of the state! And their emissions are so tough, the emissions guys didn't even put my car on the rollers when it wouldn't pass, so they put their own car on the rollers and called it mine. So when it blew clean, I then was able to go get the title to drive it out of the state. So they have the worst emmisions laws, but the easiest to get around. Then a year later, they sent a registry notice to my home in Colorado wanting me to register it in California for another $350. Seriously!!??? It took me three months to prove to them that my car is registered in Colorado as they would tell me to send the proof to one office, then another, and then that wasn't right........ What a mess!! I will never buy another car out of CA. Sorry for the off topic rant!! And I love you folks in CA, your state is just messed up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 CA is without a doubt the most screwed up state with the most goofy and messed up emissions laws. When I bought my SVT Focus a couple years ago out there, I had to get the car to pass emissions before I could get the title to take it out of the state! And their emissions are so tough, the emissions guys didn't even put my car on the rollers when it wouldn't pass, so they put their own car on the rollers and called it mine. So when it blew clean, I then was able to go get the title to drive it out of the state. So they have the worst emmisions laws, but the easiest to get around. Then a year later, they sent a registry notice to my home in Colorado wanting me to register it in California for another $350. Seriously!!??? It took me three months to prove to them that my car is registered in Colorado as they would tell me to send the proof to one office, then another, and then that wasn't right........ What a mess!! I will never buy another car out of CA. Sorry for the off topic rant!! And I love you folks in CA, your state is just messed up!! Jeff, I couldn't agree more, but that's what the citizens of Kalifornia get when they elect executive branch officers, majorities in both the upper and lower chambers and allow the senior judicial bench members to all be of the Blue persuasion. Edit: Spelling... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJorge1950 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 A simple solution is just to not offer the track key in California. I left California back in 1972 and NEVER LOOKED BACK ! Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Dennis Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 FWIW I live in Reading, PA also, and I would caution against anyone using Masano's service department. I have had several horrible experiences with them. I know someone else who has also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT-C0056 Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 CA is without a doubt the most screwed up state with the most goofy and messed up emissions laws. When I bought my SVT Focus a couple years ago out there, I had to get the car to pass emissions before I could get the title to take it out of the state! And their emissions are so tough, the emissions guys didn't even put my car on the rollers when it wouldn't pass, so they put their own car on the rollers and called it mine. So when it blew clean, I then was able to go get the title to drive it out of the state. So they have the worst emmisions laws, but the easiest to get around. Then a year later, they sent a registry notice to my home in Colorado wanting me to register it in California for another $350. Seriously!!??? It took me three months to prove to them that my car is registered in Colorado as they would tell me to send the proof to one office, then another, and then that wasn't right........ What a mess!! I will never buy another car out of CA. Sorry for the off topic rant!! And I love you folks in CA, your state is just messed up!! I purchased my GO SGT in California directly from the dealer, had it shipped to Texas and registered in Texas. This avoided the CA problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEDEMAN Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 A simple solution is just to not offer the track key in California. I left California back in 1972 and NEVER LOOKED BACK ! Just my 2 cents. Wow the Cali hatred just kills me !! You know the saying..... "if you have the honey and the money you'll never leave the hive, California". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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