buster Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 If ford would ship the damn cars maybe the ADM's might start to come down. I'm sick of waiting and waiting to get released for shipping. The z06 is a poor example because design flaws have hurt sales. If there were a most problems of the year award the C7 would win. Because the Yugo is no longer. "Most problems of the year", really? If you had a clue you would know that any and all ultra performance vehicles have some issues. Your post is a thinly veiled, poorly disguised bash of a Corvette. The C7 Z06 is an absolute beast capable of laying a beat down on cars costing 5 times as much. Get a grip Dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach 1 1970 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Stop complaining about other people opinions .... and talk about the cars. The Shelby GT350 has what I was looking for a sports car made for under $60K. There are MSRP deals out there you just have to work @ it. Have a happy turkey day you all . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach 1 1970 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Car & driver 2014 C7 long term test dec issue. By Mike Sutton. 1.engine failure @ 6000 mile. New engine 2.heating and cooling system replaced brain , 3 weeks to replace 3.rear axle seals replaced 4 heated seats didn't work 5 shifter problem felt like stirring a bag of cement ,never fixed. 6 started motor replaced. 12 seconds of cranking in the winter to finally start . 7 side air bag replaced The final statement was if this was their personnel car they would have sold it before they turned it back in. "The latest Corvette is an amazing performance bargain . But the realty is that this stingray failed spectacularly " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Car & driver 2014 C7 long term test dec issue. By Mike Sutton. 1.engine failure @ 6000 mile. New engine 2.heating and cooling system replaced brain , 3 weeks to replace 3.rear axle seals replaced 4 heated seats didn't work 5 shifter problem felt like stirring a bag of cement ,never fixed. 6 started motor replaced. 12 seconds of cranking in the winter to finally start . 7 side air bag replaced The final statement was if this was their personnel car they would have sold it before they turned it back in. "The latest Corvette is an amazing performance bargain . But the realty is that this stingray failed spectacularly " Car & driver 2014 C7 long term test dec issue. By Mike Sutton. 1.engine failure @ 6000 mile. New engine 2.heating and cooling system replaced brain , 3 weeks to replace 3.rear axle seals replaced 4 heated seats didn't work 5 shifter problem felt like stirring a bag of cement ,never fixed. 6 started motor replaced. 12 seconds of cranking in the winter to finally start . 7 side air bag replaced The final statement was if this was their personnel car they would have sold it before they turned it back in. "The latest Corvette is an amazing performance bargain . But the realty is that this stingray failed spectacularly " A sample size there of exactly ONE and from a magazine who is notorious for hating on domestic cars but raved about the GT3 when they all had their engines replaced and some actually exploded in flames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 Didn't you see "taking sealed bids"? Somehow or other I don't think MSRP will be the high bid. "Taking sealed bids"=Suckers line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted November 27, 2015 Report Share Posted November 27, 2015 A sample size there of exactly ONE and from a magazine who is notorious for hating on domestic cars but raved about the GT3 when they all had their engines replaced and some actually exploded in flames. True, they HATED on the GT500, but nevertheless, I don't recall seeing any major mechanical issues with the gt500 tests. A local mod shop is primarily a vette shop has also seen quite a few gremlins in the c7. It does look great though imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Johnston Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 Weren't there a lot of Tech Service Bulletins and various complaints with the 2007-9 GT500, including drivetrain(rear axle whine, clutch vibration and wear, and more), exhaust, wiring harness, a variety of odd noises, water leaks and such? I do not recall any total failures, however. Of course, as a Ford fan, I would rather deal with the GT500 issues than drive a C6 or C7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 There were TSBs, yeah, but they were minor in comparison. I like the C7. Especially the Z06. I might get one for my wife in the next couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) There were TSBs, yeah, but they were minor in comparison. I like the C7. Especially the Z06. I might get one for my wife in the next couple years. If you do, go to Bowling Green and build the engine yourself, well worth the extra money for that option. The hand built engines have done much better than the assembly line LT-1s from Tonawanda. Edited November 28, 2015 by mikeljgt500kr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Rodgers Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 If ford would ship the damn cars maybe the ADM's might start to come down. I'm sick of waiting and waiting to get released for shipping. The z06 is a poor example because design flaws have hurt sales. If there were a most problems of the year award the C7 would win. Because the Yugo is no longer. I understand the issues, I was looking at the Z06, many are having issues on the Corvette Forum. I agree this deterred some, but I do not think it was enough to cause the influx of cars sitting on lots today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springer Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Bill Utter Ford, a Dallas suburb dealer, just got a 2016 GT 350 in today. It is red with black stripes with the technology package. Although they are asking $10,000 over sticker, the price is negotiable. Call and ask for Jim, he is great to work with - 940/902-1690. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spdr3579 Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Here is a 2016 for sale for 5k over MSRP just out side of Dallas, Texas you can call Jim @ 940-902-1690 I will take any over sticker offer to the gm but I have been told 5k is as cheap as they will go for now I have it sold at sticker but they will not take it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted November 30, 2015 Report Share Posted November 30, 2015 Yummmm…Calypso Coral! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Larry H Miller Superford has qty.14 GT350s on there lot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hamilton Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Larry H Miller Superford has qty.14 GT350s on there lot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Took the time to look over everyone of them. Panel fit, gaps and finish are horrible on these cars ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Took the time to look over everyone of them. Panel fit, gaps and finish are horrible on these cars ! Interesting do they have them listed on their site ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Took the time to look over everyone of them. Panel fit, gaps and finish are horrible on these cars ! Did you check the motor mounts? I have heard they are having problems with those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Did you check the motor mounts? I have heard they are having problems with those. LOL! What is he going to do unbolt the motor and transmission mounts, jack the engine and take them out to examine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I think he is talking about the 2014 GT350s Mike, not the new 2016s from Ford. There are no motor mount issues now on the 16s because Ford held them back and addressed the issue before shipping them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 LOL! What is he going to do unbolt the motor and transmission mounts, jack the engine and take them out to examine? Collapsed motor mounts are easy to check, you start it up, rev it and look at the movement of the block. Usually something hits the frame. I think he is talking about the 2014 GT350s Mike, not the new 2016s from Ford. There are no motor mount issues now on the 16s because Ford held them back and addressed the issue before shipping them out OK, thanks, I thought he was referring to the 2015/2016 GT350s and didn't know Ford had repaired them before sending out batches, thought some may have been out on the street unrepaired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Collapsed motor mounts are easy to check, you start it up, rev it and look at the movement of the block. Usually something hits the frame. OK, thanks, I thought he was referring to the 2015/2016 GT350s and didn't know Ford had repaired them before sending out batches, thought some may have been out on the street unrepaired. I was referring to the 2016 Ford GT350. 14 on their lot. Heading to Miller Motorsports park Edited December 4, 2015 by cmcmotorworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I was referring to the 2016 Ford GT350. 14 on their lot. Heading to Miller Motorsports park That's what I thought, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I was referring to the 2016 Ford GT350. 14 on their lot. Heading to Miller Motorsports park Wait, you are saying the 2016 has panel gaps and finish problems? Not on any I have seen. I am sure you didn't take any pictures of that so we can see what you mean, huh? You would think in all the reviews, something about that would have come up, but I'm sure you know what you are talking about with all the Shelbys you have owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stngfever Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Could the Miller cars be QC failed or mule cars enroute to Ford racing school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Could the Miller cars be QC failed or mule cars enroute to Ford racing school? Since Miller Motorsports Park is no longer in operation and all the employees of FRS that I know are now gone, probably not. I have not yet heard the fate of the racing school yet. It's been very quiet with all the people I know. I haven't heard yet if it's moving somewhere else or if they are trying to make a deal with the new Chinese track owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) Wait, you are saying the 2016 has panel gaps and finish problems? Not on any I have seen. I am sure you didn't take any pictures of that so we can see what you mean, huh? You would think in all the reviews, something about that would have come up, but I'm sure you know what you are talking about with all the Shelbys you have owned. There does happen to be many reviews and threads in other forums out there. They started a year ago as the 2015 models were rolled out. Not referring the GT350 only. And yes I do own many Shelby's currently and also own a 2015 50th LE Mustang. Door alignment is bad. Readjusted as much as possible, but still kick out on bottom. Hoods alignment has been a problem, rear trunk deck etc. Some of the cars are worse than others. Rear fascia to quarter panel alignment. Mold ridges exposed, rather than removed or smoothed, thin paint in areas. Not trying to be nitpicky, just stating facts. It is a shame Ford is sending a lot of the Mustangs out this way, especially the GT350. They certainly know of these issues by now. Many owners have complained to dealers and regional managers, and cars have had to go into body shops for rework upon delivery. Some issues are beyond a simple adjustment. Ford Motor Company is a "Big Boy" and can certainly defend themselves and/or improve these issues. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Back in the day when I used to officiate Basketball, coaches would complain about how many fouls I had called on their team vs. the other team. They didn't have much to say when I would respond, "then quit fouling" ! Ford needs to quit committing fouls on these quality issues if they don't want to hear about them. Or maybe they just don't care ! Edited December 4, 2015 by cmcmotorworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Since Miller Motorsports Park is no longer in operation and all the employees of FRS that I know are now gone, probably not. I have not yet heard the fate of the racing school yet. It's been very quiet with all the people I know. I haven't heard yet if it's moving somewhere else or if they are trying to make a deal with the new Chinese track owners. The new Chinese owners are changing very little, and contracting out the management of the track as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) The new Chinese owners are changing very little, and contracting out the management of the track as is. But not so sure about the Ford Racing School. Nothing has been confirmed there to my knowledge. Yes, they are actually building out the facility even further with possible Oval Track and Drag Strip. I just heard some rumblings that there is the possibility of it staying at the facility, but not solid yet. Edited December 4, 2015 by JeffJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Our Roadrunner Region Porsche club has decided to advise all member to not use that facility ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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