cmcmotorworks Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 The new GT350 will never be anywhere close to an equal IMO to my 2012 Shelby GT350 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Allen Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Word I'm getting is that possibly as early as 2017 the GT 350, and the future GT500 will no longer have the Shelby name on them. They will be SVT cars only ! That would mean Ford would have to bring back the SVT banner as it has already been put to rest and no longer used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert OHara Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 That is what I thought to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Why? They will make 5000 in 2016. The 2015's will be at the end of the production cycle and there won't even be a burp and, voila, 2016's will pop off the line. +1 Let's be patient, guys!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Word I'm getting is that possibly as early as 2017 the GT 350, and the future GT500 will no longer have the Shelby name on them. They will be SVT cars only ! As they should now, at least that would be honest. I agree ! Shelby on the plastic front splitter only doesn't cut for me. No disrespect to the car. It just exudes a lack of full commitment, and a sign of things to come, and in a way treats us like we are all idiots ! Using the GT350 name is bad enough. But then maybe the Trust needs funding. Anyway, Ford used the Cobra name on performance model SVT Mustangs for years so I guess the precedent had been set. Your narrow-mindedness is completely amazing. With that mindset, Ford, Honda, Toyota, Dodge,Shelby and other vehicles and inventions are no longer their namesake because their founders have passed on. How disrespectful!! Shelby's shop is still in business building Shelbys!! So, are the late 1967-1970 Shelby Mustangs not Shelby's? Should we call the cars Vince LaViolette's as he is the Shelby American Senior Designer and Test Driver?? Why can't Ford build a new GT350, it's a name of their performance Mustang that will outperform all previous models? Are you jealous and just looking out for your own Shelby vehicle's values?? Your comments are very narrow, disrespectful, annoying and offensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Personally, I'd rather have an 08-09 KR. I'm with you!!! The new GT350 will never be anywhere close to an equal IMO to my 2012 Shelby GT350 ! Another thing is that you guys are already trashing the car before it has even been released!! The new cars with ecoboosts and flat-planes will far exceed performance-wise our old jalopies no matter how much you puff them up to hold their values. The delusion!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 That would mean Ford would have to bring back the SVT banner as it has already been put to rest and no longer used. Hasn't been put to rest yet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Another thing is that you guys are already trashing the car before it has even been released!! The new cars with ecoboosts and flat-planes will far exceed performance-wise our old jalopies no matter how much you puff them up to hold their values. The delusion!! Aren't we all allowed to be a little delusional and sentimental at times as long as no nobody else is harmed. Edited April 30, 2015 by cmcmotorworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Another thing is that you guys are already trashing the car before it has even been released!! The new cars with ecoboosts and flat-planes will far exceed performance-wise our old jalopies no matter how much you puff them up to hold their values. The delusion!! Not trashing at all. I think the new GT350 will be an awesome car. My response was to agree that I'd rather, however, own an 08-09 KR. This is for three reasons. IMO the KR is a beautiful, better looking car. Secondly, the KR is a Shelby, like the Shelby GT, that was pre-title and Shelby Autos completed. Lastly, I could get a KR for probably $25K less? Having said all that...I'm not getting either one!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Not trashing at all. I think the new GT350 will be an awesome car. My response was to agree that I'd rather, however, own an 08-09 KR. This is for three reasons. IMO the KR is a beautiful, better looking car. Secondly, the KR is a Shelby, like the Shelby GT, that was pre-title and Shelby Autos completed. Lastly, I could get a KR for probably $25K less? Having said all that...I'm not getting either one!! So, you are another person saying that the late '67 through '70 and '07-up GT500 Mustangs are not Shelbys and yours is one of the only "true" ones because the mods were installed at Shelby? Edit: You're not getting one and the car hasn't been released yet. Aren't we all allowed to be a little delusional and sentimental at times as long as no nobody else is harmed. That's bull! So-called Ford and Shelby "Enthusiasts" posting trash about Ford's new car!! How do you think this looks to potential purchasers, kids (future buyers), management, and the designers of the car? You should be ashamed of yourselves! I give Ford and Shelby tons of credit for wanting to design and build the cars and trucks they do FOR US when most of us buy foreign cars for our daily drivers. Edit: Grammar Edited April 30, 2015 by Secondo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) So, you are another person saying that the late '67 through '70 and '07-up GT500 Mustangs are not Shelbys and yours is one of the only "true" ones because the mods were installed at Shelby? Edit: You're not getting one and the car hasn't been released yet. That's bull! So-called Ford and Shelby "Enthusiasts" posting trash about Ford's new car!! How do you think this looks to potential purchasers, kids (future buyers), management, and the designers of the car? You should be ashamed of yourselves! I give Ford and Shelby tons of credit for wanting to design and build the cars and trucks they do FOR US when most of us buy foreign cars for our daily drivers. Edit: Grammar Sorry I brought it up ! Anyways. I guess I owe you an shirt now ! Edited April 30, 2015 by cmcmotorworks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 So, you are another person saying that the late '67 through '70 and '07-up GT500 Mustangs are not Shelbys and yours is one the only "true" one because the mods were installed at Shelby? You, having been here longer than me, know that's an endless discussion. I think all 67 to 70 Shelby's were sent to a outside Shelby-owned facility to be completed, but I could be wrong on that. In any event, when I got my Shelby GT in '07, I wanted a Shelby that was "touched" by Shelby Autos and pre-title, just like the originals. So I'm not saying one is better or more "Shelby" than the other, but instead just noting my preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 The market decides what is and isn't a sought after Shelby. Just look at prices for the GT500s of late, vs. the GT350s. Oh wait, not fair because Ford SVT turned them out like toilet paper compared to SAI's cars? Rarity also figures into it. And ilmor, the '68-'70 (actually '69 since the '70s were leftover '69s that were re-VINed) were completed at AO Smith, not Ford, and not Shelby American LA like the '65-'67 Shelbys were, so some think they are lesser cars, and the market also reflects that, but also many more '68-'69s were built than the '65-'67, so rarity is also a factor. Yes, the debate (angry by some here it seems) continues ad infinitum, and those who make choices about what to buy at any time use their logic for why they bought what they did and not the "other", so it will never end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 You, having been here longer than me, know that's an endless discussion. I think all 67 to 70 Shelby's were sent to a outside Shelby-owned facility to be completed, but I could be wrong on that. In any event, when I got my Shelby GT in '07, I wanted a Shelby that was "touched" by Shelby Autos and pre-title, just like the originals. So I'm not saying one is better or more "Shelby" than the other, but instead just noting my preferences. A narrow vision. There were many Shelby vehicles not "touched" by Carroll and his shop but designed and/or consulted by him nonetheless. I can go further with this argument. The AO Smith started building the late '67 cars. I for one, and even Carroll Shelby and Rick Kopec themselves do not think of these or any other Shelby vehicles to be any less "Shelby." The market decides what is and isn't a sought after Shelby. Just look at prices for the GT500s of late, vs. the GT350s. Oh wait, not fair because Ford SVT turned them out like toilet paper compared to SAI's cars? Rarity also figures into it. And ilmor, the '68-'70 (actually '69 since the '70s were leftover '69s that were re-VINed) were completed at AO Smith, not Ford, and not Shelby American LA like the '65-'67 Shelbys were, so some think they are lesser cars, and the market also reflects that, but also many more '68-'69s were built than the '65-'67, so rarity is also a factor. Yes, the debate (angry by some here it seems) continues ad infinitum, and those who make choices about what to buy at any time use their logic for why they bought what they did and not the "other", so it will never end. Here we go again, Mike, values, values, market, blah blah blah. The love of values and money (and apparently, some bias towards the older models) are keeping some here from enjoying the new Shelby GT350. The first 137 2015's are for the collectors to store away. The rest, Ford will build to satisfy demand, make money and build respect, what you call "toilet paper." Shameful. I'm glad Ford has more sense than those who only care about their personal collections, future collectability and values. I've said this before, history will not repeat itself because the cars are continuously improving unlike what we had in the '70's-'80's, no matter what negative things you have to say about the new cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 A narrow vision. There were many Shelby vehicles not "touched" by Carroll and his shop but designed and/or consulted by him nonetheless. I can go further with this argument. The AO Smith started building the late '67 cars. I for one, and even Carroll Shelby and Rick Kopec themselves do not think of these or any other Shelby vehicles to be any less "Shelby's" I never said they were less Shelby's. I said I had preferences. Kind of hard to discuss if you're going to keep putting words in my mouth. So, I'll just stop here. Like I said, these discussions are endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I never said they were less Shelby's. I said I had preferences. Kind of hard to discuss if you're going to keep putting words in my mouth. So, I'll just stop here. Like I said, these discussions are endless. Your past posts here prove otherwise. How about leaving the new Shelby GT350 out of the discussions about your "preferences?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Your past posts here prove otherwise. How about leaving the new Shelby GT350 out of the discussions about your "preferences?" Wow, sorry to have offended you so much and caused such angst. My apologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I never said they were less Shelby's. I said I had preferences. So, I'll just stop here. Like I said, these discussions are endless. +1 and it never changes anyone's opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 The love of values and money (and apparently, some bias towards the older models) are keeping some here from enjoying the new Shelby GT350. Really? You find that to be a bad thing? So people's opinions and preferences can't include these factors? It is a free country and we are all free to exercise our choices and preferences for cars based on whatever we individually think is important to us, last I checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Free country, that's your excuse? You and some others here use it to trash Ford's new car to "protect" the values your own personal collection of jalopies. On a Shelby site. Really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springer Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Like a bowl of fine chili, there are a few here that just love to "stir the pot." It makes for amusing reading in these serious times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Oh yeah, hilarious. It's getting old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedrx Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Guys, Ford is committed to the Shelby brand, it is very important to them. They are doubling down on the Shelby brand with the release of the GT350 (and soon to be re-introduced new GT500). It is an iconic brand and Ford is wise to use it. I am fine with it, I am more interested in the performance aspects of what Ford is building and from what I can see , they are introducing some serious hardware and more on the drawing board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeljgt500kr Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Free country, that's your excuse? You and some others here use it to trash Ford's new car to "protect" the values your own personal collection of jalopies. On a Shelby site. Really. My excuse??? So I need to justify my preferences in cars to you???? Get a life….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Mustang Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 never liked the SVT name thought it was tacky... why not just use FR like they did on the race car FR500 Ford Racing for short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Guys, Ford is committed to the Shelby brand, it is very important to them. They are doubling down on the Shelby brand with the release of the GT350 (and soon to be re-introduced new GT500). It is an iconic brand and Ford is wise to use it. I am fine with it, I am more interested in the performance aspects of what Ford is building and from what I can see , they are introducing some serious hardware and more on the drawing board! Now this is a great post and what I'm talking about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 never liked the SVT name thought it was tacky... why not just use FR like they did on the race car FR500 Ford Racing for short There is also no more Ford Racing. It is all grouped together as Ford Performance now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Here's a short cool new Shelby GT350 video from Ford Performance with the engineers and devolopers of the car and shots of the car in action. This car is no joke and not just in name only!! "The new GT350 builds on Carroll Shelby’s original idea – transforming a great every-day car into a dominant road racer – by taking advantage of a dramatically improved sixth-generation Mustang to create a truly special driving experience. Driving enthusiasts behind the wheel of a Shelby GT350 can expect to be treated to the most balanced, nimble and exhilarating production Mustang yet." Edited May 5, 2015 by Secondo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b17drvr Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Any bets on what the most popular color combo will be on the 2015 GT350? I say white with blue stripes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcmotorworks Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Any bets on what the most popular color combo will be on the 2015 GT350? I say white with blue stripes I used to play the Baritone. Nothing like a good Tuba/Baritone melody-harmony combo ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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