ShelbyKR664 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 I just came across a 07 SGT on the Washington DC CL. The item ID is 463958650. He is asking $95k. This appears to be the real deal. Notice the all white spoiler. The CSM plate also shows 01P! I am sure Steve will chime in and verify if this is #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Why not post the link? http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/4639538650.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Is it just me or does Carroll Shelby's signature look a little suspect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stngfever Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 The add states: "Prototype #2 was purchased in 2006 for $450,000. I have court documents to support this." Kinda odd considering SA has 02P currently for sale? If this is 01P, what is the csm for "Whitey" that SA has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITHERTZ66 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Neat car...as for the price, he can ask whatever he wants. However, the auction sales from the last decade of other earlier prototype Shelby cars from 65 and 66 don't support that prototypes are worth 3-4x market value of the regular production examples. I hope it finds a good home and remains well preserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASPONY Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 I may be talking out my a$$ here...but didn't the prototype cars still have the "GT" badges on the sides and not the "Powered By Ford" badges? And if you were going to ask close to $100k for a $20k car would you have a bunch of pics of it out the wet/overcast driveway/street? Just thinking out loud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Grey Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Jaspony, You are right - both the black and white had GT on the front fenders not Powered By Ford badges. Of course those could have been changed before they were sold the 1st time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stngfever Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 The black one currently for sale from SA also has the PBF badges. Still interested to hear what CSM is on the White one SA has? As I thought it was the White Prototype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Nice car ... but doesn't seem right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgin Black Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Is it just me or does Carroll Shelby's signature look a little suspect? I thought a original CS signature had two hash marks across the horizontal underline and had three with the autopen. This one has one mark. It seems I read this on a post on this site. My wifes SGT-C has two marks if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Maybe Steve will see this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ageishecker Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 SA should be able to confirm if the VIN is correct for the prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Calling Steve - (Shelbymotorsports) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Car IS Legit. edit: although my information shows that this car was owned by a Shelby American executive not a Ford Executive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Patten Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 The add states: "Prototype #2 was purchased in 2006 for $450,000. I have court documents to support this." Kinda odd considering SA has 02P currently for sale? If this is 01P, what is the csm for "Whitey" that SA has? Does SA still have "Whitey" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyKR664 Posted August 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Why not post the link? http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/cto/4639538650.html Sorry, I posted it off my phone and could not get it to copy. I thought this was too important to wait until I got in front of my computer. Thanks for posting the link. I still would love to hear from Steve. I will be near DC this weekend and may take a look just out of plain curiosity. I don't see $95k though. Not even at Barrett Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Whitey is still in Vegas. Whitey is a PP car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stngfever Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Does Whitey have a CSM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoChris Posted August 28, 2014 Report Share Posted August 28, 2014 Looks like damage to the passenger side spoiler? I do like the floor mats and the painted front spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank S Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 I don't suppose the Monroney sticker proves anything, but this is what comes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbymotorsports Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Been a busy week so let me say thanks to Chris Carter for doing some legwork on this car. Yes it appears legit and was one of several P & C cars from SAI. Most people are familiar with whitey & blackie but there were actually more than those two cars. Although the lawsuit mentioned by the current seller, which by the way SAI won, is over with its still a sensitive issue that we can discuss another day. Car does have some history but does it have $95,000 worth of history? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyKR664 Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Steve, as always thanks for the information. I emailed the seller to take a look at it and have not heard back. What do you guys think it is worth? I am thinking maybe 20-30% premium over a perfect 07 SGT . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stngfever Posted August 29, 2014 Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Steve, as always thanks for the information. I emailed the seller to take a look at it and have not heard back. What do you guys think it is worth? I am thinking maybe 20-30% premium over a perfect 07 SGT . If SA's asking price for 02P is any indicator of worth, then the $95k asking price for 01P certainly seems like a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Patten Posted August 30, 2014 Report Share Posted August 30, 2014 Maybe SA will buy it back and put a wide body kit on it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydub Mach1 Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 Been a busy week so let me say thanks to Chris Carter for doing some legwork on this car. Yes it appears legit and was one of several P & C cars from SAI. Most people are familiar with whitey & blackie but there were actually more than those two cars. Although the lawsuit mentioned by the current seller, which by the way SAI won, is over with its still a sensitive issue that we can discuss another day. Car does have some history but does it have $95,000 worth of history? Steve "....was one of several P & C cars from SAI..." For us dummies, what does the P and C stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicShelby Posted August 31, 2014 Report Share Posted August 31, 2014 C = Concept P = Press PP = Pre Production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydub Mach1 Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 C = Concept P = Press PP = Pre Production Thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbymotorsports Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thanks!!! Little correction needed. When it comes to CSM numbers: P = Prototype C = Concept Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Little correction needed. When it comes to CSM numbers: P = Prototype C = Concept Steve Thanks Steve, that is what I was thinking they were but was not 100%. The P for Press threw me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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