chuckstang Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 This was posted by a very reputable guy over at svtperformance. http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showt...d=1#post5048306 chime in on what you all think, Im very impressed and very jealous at the same time since my GT500 that cost me KR money at least msrp wise def will not run 11.8 stock. I think Ford was fibbing about the 540hp and it is more like 600ish because most people get 500rwhp with the power mods the KR has (intake, tune, mufflers) Perhaps Ford lightened the KR enough to actually impact performance or give it some wider stickier tires. Ahhhhh, please tell me the parts in the KR can easily be duplicated on our cars! Anyway, there has not been much infor or rumors in this KR forum so this should get something going. This KR forum was booooooring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckySnake Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 This was posted by a very reputable guy over at svtperformance. http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showt...d=1#post5048306 chime in on what you all think, Im very impressed and very jealous at the same time since my GT500 that cost me KR money at least msrp wise def will not run 11.8 stock. I think Ford was fibbing about the 540hp and it is more like 600ish because most people get 500rwhp with the power mods the KR has (intake, tune, mufflers) Perhaps Ford lightened the KR enough to actually impact performance or give it some wider stickier tires. Ahhhhh, please tell me the parts in the KR can easily be duplicated on our cars! Anyway, there has not been much infor or rumors in this KR forum so this should get something going. This KR forum was booooooring Could we see time slips or video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloy Dave Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think Ford was fibbing about the 540hp and it is more like 600ish because most people get 500rwhp with the power mods the KR has (intake, tune, mufflers) Ford never said 540 HP. They said "at least 540" HP. At the time this info was first posted, I pointed out how our cars started at "at least 450" HP and ended up at 500. The same will happen here...we are just awaiting the final number....will it be 560 or will it be 620? AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtharmon633 Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 This was posted by a very reputable guy over at svtperformance. http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showt...d=1#post5048306 chime in on what you all think, Im very impressed and very jealous at the same time since my GT500 that cost me KR money at least msrp wise def will not run 11.8 stock. I think Ford was fibbing about the 540hp and it is more like 600ish because most people get 500rwhp with the power mods the KR has (intake, tune, mufflers) Perhaps Ford lightened the KR enough to actually impact performance or give it some wider stickier tires. Ahhhhh, please tell me the parts in the KR can easily be duplicated on our cars! Anyway, there has not been much infor or rumors in this KR forum so this should get something going. This KR forum was booooooring Those are awesome numbers for a test drive down the track. :happy feet: I hope they hold or get even better when production rolls around. Man, what a job driving new ponies out the stable. I bet it's hard to sleep at night thinking about the next days work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Oval Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 This was posted by a very reputable guy over at svtperformance. http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showt...d=1#post5048306 chime in on what you all think, Im very impressed and very jealous at the same time since my GT500 that cost me KR money at least msrp wise def will not run 11.8 stock. I think Ford was fibbing about the 540hp and it is more like 600ish because most people get 500rwhp with the power mods the KR has (intake, tune, mufflers) Perhaps Ford lightened the KR enough to actually impact performance or give it some wider stickier tires. Ahhhhh, please tell me the parts in the KR can easily be duplicated on our cars! Anyway, there has not been much infor or rumors in this KR forum so this should get something going. This KR forum was booooooring Throw $1200 at your gt500, and you're there easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtharmon633 Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 Throw $1200 at your gt500, and you're there easily. I went in my garage, threw 1200 bucks at my Shelby, and then the wind blew my money out the door. The car, however, remained stationary. i wouldn't advise others to do this unless the wind ain't blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Oh B Posted May 13, 2007 Report Share Posted May 13, 2007 I don't and won't post at SVT Performance's website (too much fighting and too many trolls), so let me just summarize here that a 120 mph trap speed is indicative of a car that can run 11.20's in the 1/4 mile with solid traction. 11.8's tells me that traction is a huge issue on the tires on that KR. Also, 120 mph trap speed in a car that weighs 3,900 (assuming a bit lighter than a GT500 and an average weight driver) suggests about 465 rwhp, which equates to about 550 hp at the crankshaft (given a 15% drivetrain loss). So, this tale of the KR running consistent 11.80's at 120 mph sounds totally legitimate to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointcover Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I went in my garage, threw 1200 bucks at my Shelby, and then the wind blew my money out the door. The car, however, remained stationary. i wouldn't advise others to do this unless the wind ain't blowing. Keep the garage door closed next time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointcover Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 B)--> QUOTE(Five Oh B @ May 13 2007, 07:11 PM) 147817[/snapback] I don't and won't post at SVT Performance's website (too much fighting and too many trolls), so let me just summarize here that a 120 mph trap speed is indicative of a car that can run 11.20's in the 1/4 mile with solid traction. 11.8's tells me that traction is a huge issue on the tires on that KR. Also, 120 mph trap speed in a car that weighs 3,900 (assuming a bit lighter than a GT500 and an average weight driver) suggests about 465 rwhp, which equates to about 550 hp at the crankshaft (given a 15% drivetrain loss). So, this tale of the KR running consistent 11.80's at 120 mph sounds totally legitimate to me. Great information! Thanks for sharing! :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 I would say Five oh B is right on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sssss Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Not only do I beleive it,...but I can't wait to see the numbers on the SuperSnake,...OOOOO YEAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVTpower Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Throw $1200 at your gt500, and you're there easily. + 1..............all we need is what the KR has, a CAI, a tune, and 3.73's...........and we end up with more hp than 540. CAI and tune is approx 500 rwhp so approx 560-570 crank. Yes, enough for 11's with decent traction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckySnake Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 B)--> QUOTE(Five Oh B @ May 13 2007, 06:11 PM) 147817[/snapback] I don't and won't post at SVT Performance's website (too much fighting and too many trolls), so let me just summarize here that a 120 mph trap speed is indicative of a car that can run 11.20's in the 1/4 mile with solid traction. 11.8's tells me that traction is a huge issue on the tires on that KR. Also, 120 mph trap speed in a car that weighs 3,900 (assuming a bit lighter than a GT500 and an average weight driver) suggests about 465 rwhp, which equates to about 550 hp at the crankshaft (given a 15% drivetrain loss). So, this tale of the KR running consistent 11.80's at 120 mph sounds totally legitimate to me. Sounds about right, lets see some footage please. I would bet $100.00 there is video if this is true. Scan some time slips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Roger Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 Not only do I beleive it,...but I can't wait to see the numbers on the SuperSnake,...OOOOO YEAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wonder if they won't look like this: 600 hp SS: 11.6 s at 122 mph 725 hp SS: 11.2 s at 126 mph You can throw all the rwhp you want down, but if you don't have the traction to get it to the road, what is more rwhp going to do for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckstang Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I know the GT500 is great and all but I don't think many are running 11s on stock tires with even 500-550rwhp, or are they?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARLEYDEALER Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I wonder if they won't look like this: 600 hp SS: 11.6 s at 122 mph 725 hp SS: 11.2 s at 126 mph You can throw all the rwhp you want down, but if you don't have the traction to get it to the road, what is more rwhp going to do for you? Thats the problem! Shelby GT500 with KB stage 3 with H&M Drag Radials, Couldn't get the power to the ground, sucky 60' time, 11.3 @ 133mph. Work in progress! Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgussin1 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Thats the problem! Shelby GT500 with KB stage 3 with H&M Drag Radials, Couldn't get the power to the ground, sucky 60' time, 11.3 @ 133mph. Work in progress! Bill I'd bet I could put your car in the 10's on the first pass down the track with a 26-28" ET street (Hell I know I could do it on the M&H DR). All you need is some good driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgussin1 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I know the GT500 is great and all but I don't think many are running 11s on stock tires with even 500-550rwhp, or are they?????? tune, axle back, 1 piece d/s and road race suspension, which make's the car much more difficult to launch. on 17" DR's 11.89 @ 119.7 added 3.73's and a cai, but lost 6 ribs off my belt. ET Streets 1.642 4.797 7.425 94.39 9.687 11.59 118.22 on 295/35/19 bfg kdw2 street radials 1.806 5.062 7.704 93.61 9.980 11.896 117.89 added pulley ET Streets 1.629 4.776 7.349 97.00 9.565 11.410 125.71 kdw2's 1.911 5.175 7.789 96.52 10.002 11.863 125.26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1BADGT500 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 tune, axle back, 1 piece d/s and road race suspension, which make's the car much more difficult to launch. on 17" DR's 11.89 @ 119.7 added 3.73's and a cai, but lost 6 ribs off my belt. ET Streets 1.642 4.797 7.425 94.39 9.687 11.59 118.22 on 295/35/19 bfg kdw2 street radials 1.806 5.062 7.704 93.61 9.980 11.896 117.89 added pulley ET Streets 1.629 4.776 7.349 97.00 9.565 11.410 125.71 kdw2's 1.911 5.175 7.789 96.52 10.002 11.863 125.26 Dave WTF hapened to your aux. idler pulley? you just remove it for the photo?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgussin1 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dave WTF hapened to your aux. idler pulley? you just remove it for the photo?? the original metco pulley chewed up my belt b/c it was too lose and came off, but that wouldn't stop me from racing. I couldn't get a replacement belt in time and the metco pulley would not stay on the blower, so I put the stock pulley back on, thus no need for the metco idler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 I wonder if they won't look like this: 600 hp SS: 11.6 s at 122 mph 725 hp SS: 11.2 s at 126 mph You can throw all the rwhp you want down, but if you don't have the traction to get it to the road, what is more rwhp going to do for you? true...but the KR has an upgraded coil over susp. package too I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FAFP90 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 + 1..............all we need is what the KR has, a CAI, a tune, and 3.73's...........and we end up with more hp than 540. Except the KR comes with a full Ford factory warranty, whereas the modded GT500 may or may not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckstang Posted May 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dave what is your current list of power mods? Did you get the full exhaust on there to make that 553 or port the blower? 553 is awsome with just a tune, muffler, JLT, and 2.6! I can't wait to get my car! PS-I ordered some Recaro sports (like found in the 00 R) but they are going in my fun lil Mazda 6 for now LOL I heard about your joy ride with fourcam, I wish I could take a ride to see what Im in for and how to properly drive them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Dave what is your current list of power mods?Did you get the full exhaust on there to make that 553 or port the blower? 553 is awsome with just a tune, muffler, JLT, and 2.6! I can't wait to get my car! PS-I ordered some Recaro sports (like found in the 00 R) but they are going in my fun lil Mazda 6 for now LOL I heard about your joy ride with fourcam, I wish I could take a ride to see what Im in for and how to properly drive them! I would bet he just has the tune intake and pulley - I was right there too 561. Added headers and exhaust and didn't pick up the power I wanted but conditions were much worse for dyno pulls. Sounds great and breathing is much better - I also threw in the 373's at the same time and it scoots now. Just got the 26" ET Streets too so now I need to get back to the track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgussin1 Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 Dave what is your current list of power mods?Did you get the full exhaust on there to make that 553 or port the blower? 553 is awsome with just a tune, muffler, JLT, and 2.6! I can't wait to get my car! PS-I ordered some Recaro sports (like found in the 00 R) but they are going in my fun lil Mazda 6 for now LOL I heard about your joy ride with fourcam, I wish I could take a ride to see what Im in for and how to properly drive them! those are all my power mods, I have not had my exhaust installed yet. Good choice on seats...should be a nice weight drop if installed in the GT500 (50-70lbs at least) b/c the stock seats are HEAVY! Yeah, Andy and I went for a little trip around Chicago. I was taking an offramp with a nice 3 turn set (right, left, right), as I was heading to the last turn at 90, he said "how fast were you going?" [refering to the last turn]...with a little shrill in his voice. I told him I wasn't looking down, but about 75-80. This is the Eastbound Ohio street exit for those who know Chicago. Then we turned back around and went through another set of turns, as I was coming out of the apex I was going a little too fast for the tires and all 4 broke loose, I quickly corrected and kept hammering through the turn. I think he left a deposit on my seat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sssss Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 I wonder if they won't look like this: 600 hp SS: 11.6 s at 122 mph 725 hp SS: 11.2 s at 126 mph You can throw all the rwhp you want down, but if you don't have the traction to get it to the road, what is more rwhp going to do for you? I would like to think Carroll and company are smart enough to compensate for the extra rwhp by installing wider,stickier meats in the back of the SuperSnake. I don't think he'll leave that issue unattended. Otherwise it defeats the purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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