REAL ONE Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 Guys: Do any of you have information on accurate dyno numbers for stock KR's and the type of dyno's used in order to get a real idea of what the stock power numbers are for the KR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustangcollector Posted January 18, 2013 Report Share Posted January 18, 2013 I haven't dyno'd mine but I talked to a shop here in Maryland about it (Maryland Performance). They said they have dyno'd KRs in that shop and that stock cars come in right around where they are listed: at 540HP. I was expecting him to say it would be a little more actually. Didn't get into more details at the time because he was extremely busy. I don't know what type of dyno he uses. Seemed like a knowledgeable guy if you want to give them a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDB Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 What was the magazine article that found it to be 600-ish? I thought I saw another private party that dyno'd and found the same results. edt, add: http://www.autoblog....ts-the-king-of/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007tungstenGT500 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 how'd he dyno it and arrive at 540? that car is rated at 540 flywheel power, not at the rear wheels. if the autoblog article mentioned above saw 509 at the wheels and the KR had an aluminum driveshaft and different rear gears, that could mean less than 15% loss, which would mean flywheel was actually less than the 598 they cited. also, couldn't the dyno be miscalibrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I've personally seen a couple of stock KRs dyno around ~ 500 hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007tungstenGT500 Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 seems reasonable, particularly since Ford's ratings are SAE and probably read lower than joe blow's back alley dyno shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chairman Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 Had my '09 KR dyno'd after about 500 miles on the clock. Bone stock. Rear wheel HP was 470. Presuming 15% loss, that's ~550 at the flywheel. This was on one of these dynos: http://www.mustangdyne.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I believe Mustang dynos read lower than Dynojets...or is it the other way around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chairman Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I'm not an expert on the differences, but I understand DynoJets read a bit higher HP levels than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08krrick Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 MUSTANG DYNOS ALWAYS GIVE A LOWER NUMBER. ON MY PROCHARGED 97 COBRA THE MUSTANG DYNO WAS 508 RWHP AND ON THE DYNOJET IT IT READ 568. SO FIGURE ADD 10% TO A MUSTANG DYNO IF YOU WANT BRAGGING RIGHTS ON GUYS WHO ALWAYS QUOTE DYNOJET NUMBERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_KR Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I just got delivery of the TVS upgrade for my KR, and before I do the swap, i'd like to get some pulls in to see the before and after numbers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twicebitten Posted January 19, 2013 Report Share Posted January 19, 2013 I just got delivery of the TVS upgrade for my KR, and before I do the swap, i'd like to get some pulls in to see the before and after numbers.... you will like B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted January 20, 2013 Report Share Posted January 20, 2013 I just got delivery of the TVS upgrade for my KR, and before I do the swap, i'd like to get some pulls in to see the before and after numbers.... What TVS did you get?...Ford Racing?...2013 GT500 upgrade...or VMP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_KR Posted January 21, 2013 Report Share Posted January 21, 2013 What TVS did you get?...Ford Racing?...2013 GT500 upgrade...or VMP? Ford Racing (M-6066-SGT-)for two reasons, 1) its plug and play on the kr 2) it looks stock because I didn't want any issues passing "smog" here in the Republik of Kalifornia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Brown Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I had mine dyno'd at Sheby a couple years ago and it was 485 at the rear wheels. I do not know what kind of dyno they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 I had mine dyno'd at Sheby a couple years ago and it was 485 at the rear wheels. I do not know what kind of dyno they have. Its a DynoJet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REAL ONE Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 That's approximately 557hp at the crank. DHoening's was roughly 575 at the crank adjusting for the Mustang dyno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Has anyone done a simple retune? Curious as to the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007tungstenGT500 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Can you retune a KR? I thought they used the FRPP power upgrade pack? You'd have to flash it back to "stock" with a Ford OEM tune file using the Pro-Cal tuner. Do KRs come with a Pro-Cal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08KR525 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'm not sure I understand the question. If you purchase a SCT tuner, you can upload the KR tune into it and download whatever custom tune into your KR you want. The SCT tune will then store the KR's stock tune if you should ever want to return the car to stock. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor08GT500 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Have dynoed over 20 08-09 KR's on a Dynojet 248A (all same dyno, so same elevation) and each one varied from 470-490 RWHP. Obviously depends on temperature, humidity, and the car. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'm not sure I understand the question. If you purchase a SCT tuner, you can upload the KR tune into it and download whatever custom tune into your KR you want. The SCT tune will then store the KR's stock tune if you should ever want to return the car to stock. HTH. Agreed and I have to believe Ford left power on the tabel with the tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT0767 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 I just got delivery of the TVS upgrade for my KR, and before I do the swap, i'd like to get some pulls in to see the before and after numbers.... Hi Cali_KR, Any update on your before and after dyno results from you TVS upgrade. I've been thinking of the TVS upgrade myself and would like to see what to expect if I decide to move forward. I had Tasca do a stage 2 upgrade on the GT500 last year and that certainly made a big difference now that it is putting out 528 RWHP. I'd like to kick up the KR as well. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_KR Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Hi Cali_KR, Any update on your before and after dyno results from you TVS upgrade. I've been thinking of the TVS upgrade myself and would like to see what to expect if I decide to move forward. I had Tasca do a stage 2 upgrade on the GT500 last year and that certainly made a big difference now that it is putting out 528 RWHP. I'd like to kick up the KR as well. Mike Mike, I didn't get any numbers, before or after...but I do know this...it took us only 1 hour to do the swap, and wow, did the the KR ever wake up! You will NOT be dissapointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007tungstenGT500 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 I'm not sure I understand the question. If you purchase a SCT tuner, you can upload the KR tune into it and download whatever custom tune into your KR you want. The SCT tune will then store the KR's stock tune if you should ever want to return the car to stock. HTH. So, I've had both an SCT tuner and a Pro-Cal tuner on 2 Mustangs. They cannot overwrite each other. You have to "flash" back to stock in order to use one or the other. Since the KR uses the FRPP power pack upgrade (cold-air intake and Pro-Cal tune), I was wondering whether the KRs were sold with a Pro-Cal hand-held tuner or if it was done by SAI? Once you load a tune via an SCT or a Pro-Cal, the car is "locked" to that device. That's why I was wondering how you could perform an upgrade that requires an ECM re-flash if you don't have the original Pro-Cal tuner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT0767 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Thanks. That's what I wanted to know. I am assuming from other threads that no changes needed to be made in the tune. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007tungstenGT500 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 if you are going from the OEM Eaton to a FRPP TVS supercharger, you WILL need a re-tune. Ford Racing sends out different tunes on different Pro-Cal devices, depending on the kit you purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELBYCS6 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 My 2010 GT-500 has the KR engine (last year with the cast iron block) and I've added the exhaust so performance wise it is exactally like the KR. I had mine on the dyno with about 500 km on the car and it was 468 rwhp. I down sized the stock pulley and went with the Jon Lund tune and SCT tuner. Last dyno run was 568 rwhp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08KR525 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 2007tungstenGT500, the tune that is in the KR when it is delivered will upload and be stored into your SCT Tuner before you download whatever custom tune you choose to run into your car. There have been posts that the KR's tune will safely handle the FRPP TVS, however in my case I chose to use a custom tune as I also changed pulley size and the tb, in order to maximize the combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 My 2010 GT-500 has the KR engine (last year with the cast iron block) and I've added the exhaust so performance wise it is exactally like the KR. I had mine on the dyno with about 500 km on the car and it was 468 rwhp. I down sized the stock pulley and went with the Jon Lund tune and SCT tuner. Last dyno run was 568 rwhp. My 08 GT500 with a cold air and custom tune only, made 500 at the wheels, with a snake bite kit, made 580 on the Dyno at Shelby. That was with the stock pulley. My plan for the KR is to go with the custom tune and see what that nets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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