Catalac Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Anyboby run a Laser / lidar jammer? Friend says his laser interceptor has saved his arse several times, not sure I believe him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspassing Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I am wondering about the hard wired detector and laser shifter. I have a friend with a cayman that swears by it, nut I worry about the large frontal area of the 13 GT500. Anyone have experience in this? I am wondering about front mounting points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imatk Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 The problem with the laser shifters are kind of two-fold. One there are some states that have outlawed them, and if you're in one it's kind of a risk to run it as they can be seen fairly easily. Two the damn laser shifter heads are HUGE and have to be mounted with no obstructions. So you'll have to cut your grille to mount them. I live in Texas and it's against the law to have them here, but even if I didn't, I'm not sure I would run them because of the cutting/looks factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel 007 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Anyboby run a Laser / lidar jammer? Friend says his laser interceptor has saved his arse several times, not sure I believe him though. I have had a K40 Laser diffuser on my Saleen Extreme for 10 years. Plain and simple, it works. Police have tried to nail me many times but I get on the binders and slow down and they move on to a different vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel 007 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 The problem with the laser shifters are kind of two-fold. One there are some states that have outlawed them, and if you're in one it's kind of a risk to run it as they can be seen fairly easily. Two the damn laser shifter heads are HUGE and have to be mounted with no obstructions. So you'll have to cut your grille to mount them. I live in Texas and it's against the law to have them here, but even if I didn't, I'm not sure I would run them because of the cutting/looks factor. The K-40 diffuser head on my car is about 4 inches long, 1 inch high and 1-1/2 deep. Don't even notice it where they mounted it in the front of my Saleen. Also I would like to know about some states outlawing them as pertaining to travelers passing through said states. There is supposed to be an agreement between states that a vehicle that is legal in your home state is legal in another state even though they have different laws. For instance, front license plates. My state does not require them (Michigan) but when I drive through Ohio, which does require them, my car is legal because Michigan said it is legal. Should be the same with radar detectors and laser diffusers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03reptile Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 The K-40 diffuser head on my car is about 4 inches long, 1 inch high and 1-1/2 deep. Don't even notice it where they mounted it in the front of my Saleen. Also I would like to know about some states outlawing them as pertaining to travelers passing through said states. There is supposed to be an agreement between states that a vehicle that is legal in your home state is legal in another state even though they have different laws. For instance, front license plates. My state does not require them (Michigan) but when I drive through Ohio, which does require them, my car is legal because Michigan said it is legal. Should be the same with radar detectors and laser diffusers. Sorry, but with radar detectors and such, most states will/can ticket you if they're prohibited in that state. I.E. in Md. there is no prohibition for use of a radar detector. In Va. there is. If you have Md. tags and are using a radar detector in Va., you can be given a ticket & your detector confiscated, if the officer so desires. Va. posts signs at state lines indicating radar detectors are illegal, so you're warned. You are right on individual state requirements for number of registration plates displayed while traveling through states with different requirements. No issues there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGJ Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 I have the Escort Solo2 and move it from vehicle to vehicle as needed on any given day. Has saved me quite a few times, but I'm usually more than 10 mph over at any given time in any car unless 75% of the surrounding traffic is moving faster...and that frequently happens on the Atlanta highways! I might upgrade in the future to the 9500... Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imatk Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 The K-40 diffuser head on my car is about 4 inches long, 1 inch high and 1-1/2 deep. Don't even notice it where they mounted it in the front of my Saleen Can we see pictures of it? Did they have to cut your grille to install it? Most people here (myself included) don't really look forward to someone cutting into their grilles. I've not seen one install on a Shelby where they didn't have to cut the grilles. And I've also seen the K40, the Escort, and others... they all have pretty much the same size heads and they're all pretty easy to see up close. Especially the rear diffusers that they put above or under the license plate. But I'd like to see your install if they managed to do it without cutting. The Saleen grilles are square I believe so maybe that's how they did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasL Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 My 9500ix shipped yesterday! Pumped. Never had a radar detector before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel 007 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Can we see pictures of it? Did they have to cut your grille to install it? Most people here (myself included) don't really look forward to someone cutting into their grilles. I've not seen one install on a Shelby where they didn't have to cut the grilles. And I've also seen the K40, the Escort, and others... they all have pretty much the same size heads and they're all pretty easy to see up close. Especially the rear diffusers that they put above or under the license plate. But I'd like to see your install if they managed to do it without cutting. The Saleen grilles are square I believe so maybe that's how they did it? It is not cut in. It sits underneath the front air dam in the center of the vehicle and a couple inches back. I will ask my wife to take a picture and send it to me so I can post it. I am in Afghanistan now. When I start the car it activates and it really really works very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman5000 Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 For best results, the laser shifter should be mounted as close to the headlights as possible. The police aim the laser at the headlights, if it is not mounted near them, you might as well not have a laser shifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imatk Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Yeah I thought so too. Still would like to see the setup you've got Squirrel... stay safe over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel 007 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 For best results, the laser shifter should be mounted as close to the headlights as possible. The police aim the laser at the headlights, if it is not mounted near them, you might as well not have a laser shifter. You mount it in the center of the vehicle. The police are trained to hit you at 1000 feet and the beam is about 3 feet wide at that point. If you mounted it at the right headlight and he hit the left headlight it would do you no good. But mounted in the center he can go for either headlight or front plate if you have one and the beam hits the transmitter / receiver. As you get a warning that they are trying to clock you, you pound on those big brakes the GT500 comes with and do rapid deceleration. As you move closer to the officer the beam is getting narrower and will eventually come off the diffuser on your vehicle and if you did not slow down they can nail you. But through testing they found that almost all officers will try twice to get a reading (K-40 causes readout to say BAD DATA) then he will move on to another vehicle. So the big trick here is as soon as you get a warning do not lightly tap the brakes. Hit 'em hard!!!!! Slow down fast!!!!!!! I have much experience with getting nailed by LIDAR and that is the key point. Yes the officer can see your car do a nose dive but he can't do a damn thing about it. He has no reading on you. All is fair in love and war. As police methods evolve over the years to fill city coffers with your cash your defense measures must evolve too. K-40 Electronics guarantees to pay for your laser ticket if you get nabbed while the unit is under warranty. It works very well but like radar detectors, you have to pay attention to them or you pay the price. Working on getting the picture from home of the install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dohcsvt Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I noticed that no one has mentioned the Bell STi driver. I had one of those in my 08 Shelby for a couple years and it worked great. I did a lot of research before I bought mine. I live in Virginia so being invisible to a radar detector detector was a big deal to me and the STi is the best at that. But I seem to recall that it was right up there with the Valentine 1 for range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel 007 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 It looks from the front end picture of this Shelby that the diffuser would fit right where I put the yellow bar. Tuck it in there and unless a cop got out and bent down and looked inside the slot he wouldn't see it. And if he ever did see it tell him it is a curb sensor so you don't wreck the Air splitter on the curbs. auto-show-photos3.pdf auto-show-photos3.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman5000 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 You mount it in the center of the vehicle. The police are trained to hit you at 1000 feet and the beam is about 3 feet wide at that point. If you mounted it at the right headlight and he hit the left headlight it would do you no good. But mounted in the center he can go for either headlight or front plate if you have one and the beam hits the transmitter / receiver. As you get a warning that they are trying to clock you, you pound on those big brakes the GT500 comes with and do rapid deceleration. As you move closer to the officer the beam is getting narrower and will eventually come off the diffuser on your vehicle and if you did not slow down they can nail you. But through testing they found that almost all officers will try twice to get a reading (K-40 causes readout to say BAD DATA) then he will move on to another vehicle. So the big trick here is as soon as you get a warning do not lightly tap the brakes. Hit 'em hard!!!!! Slow down fast!!!!!!! I have much experience with getting nailed by LIDAR and that is the key point. Yes the officer can see your car do a nose dive but he can't do a damn thing about it. He has no reading on you. All is fair in love and war. As police methods evolve over the years to fill city coffers with your cash your defense measures must evolve too. K-40 Electronics guarantees to pay for your laser ticket if you get nabbed while the unit is under warranty. It works very well but like radar detectors, you have to pay attention to them or you pay the price. Working on getting the picture from home of the install. I understand about the front licence plate, but in Indiana we are not required to have front plates. So officers are trained to aim at the headlights. (My wife is a police officer). We have experimented with my car, and at anything over 500 ft, she can't get a reading if she is aiming at anything other than a headlight. There is very little reflective surfaces on the front of these cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel 007 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I understand about the front licence plate, but in Indiana we are not required to have front plates. So officers are trained to aim at the headlights. (My wife is a police officer). We have experimented with my car, and at anything over 500 ft, she can't get a reading if she is aiming at anything other than a headlight. There is very little reflective surfaces on the front of these cars. We don't have a front plate in Michigan either. But with a 3 foot cone of laser at 1000 feet you cant put the single reciever near a headlight because you only cover one side of the car. Mine was installed by professionals and that is why it is located in the center of the car. They can aim at either headlight and the 3 foot cone hits the diffuser mounted in the middle of the car. Believe me, I have been hit by LIDAR about 50 times and they have not tagged me yet. Now the Escort ZR4 comes with two diffuser units for the front of the vehicle and one for the rear. Those would be mounted near the headlights and on the rear plate. I was reading on the internet that due to some court case police now have limitations on distances they are allowed to use LIDAR because of the size of the beam at greater distances does not guarantee they are getting true readings from only one vehicle. Without a tripod it is very hard for the officer to hold the gun steady and therefore you can get false readings. Also darker vehicles are much harder to get a reading on as they tend to absorb the full color spectrum as compared to lighter colors which reflect more of the color spectrum. So a black Shelby is a good thing for stealth. :hearseespeak: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel 007 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 My wife took a blurry photo and sent it to me of the transmitter/reciever on my Saleen. I also enclosed a picture of a Saleen Extreme so you can get an idea of the location from a further prespective. It is mounted in the bottom grill opening on the top side in the middle of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom3 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Escort 9500ix is the one I prefer as well. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspassing Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 You mount it in the center of the vehicle. The police are trained to hit you at 1000 feet and the beam is about 3 feet wide at that point. If you mounted it at the right headlight and he hit the left headlight it would do you no good. But mounted in the center he can go for either headlight or front plate if you have one and the beam hits the transmitter / receiver. As you get a warning that they are trying to clock you, you pound on those big brakes the GT500 comes with and do rapid deceleration. As you move closer to the officer the beam is getting narrower and will eventually come off the diffuser on your vehicle and if you did not slow down they can nail you. But through testing they found that almost all officers will try twice to get a reading (K-40 causes readout to say BAD DATA) then he will move on to another vehicle. So the big trick here is as soon as you get a warning do not lightly tap the brakes. Hit 'em hard!!!!! Slow down fast!!!!!!! I have much experience with getting nailed by LIDAR and that is the key point. Yes the officer can see your car do a nose dive but he can't do a damn thing about it. He has no reading on you. All is fair in love and war. As police methods evolve over the years to fill city coffers with your cash your defense measures must evolve too. K-40 Electronics guarantees to pay for your laser ticket if you get nabbed while the unit is under warranty. It works very well but like radar detectors, you have to pay attention to them or you pay the price. Working on getting the picture from home of the install. I believe the ZR4 has two front transmitters and one rear. You would mount below the headlights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspassing Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Is anyone running the Zr4? Can someone let me know how it performs with the huge Shelby front end? Any pics of the install? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman5000 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I believe the ZR4 has two front transmitters and one rear. You would mount below the headlights? I would mount it on the far lower corners of the grill area, as close to the headlights as possible. They will blend in very well. This is where I had mine mounted on my 08 KR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbyville Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Anybody running Escort's combination detector/GPS unit? Wonder if that would work in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra99 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Anybody running Escort's combination detector/GPS unit? Wonder if that would work in Canada? Yep running 9500ix with Escort live. Just ordered LI Duels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelbyville Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 No, I'm talking about the Passport IQ (tried to post link but it wouldn't work) It looks and functions like a GPS unit but has the radar/laser stuff built into it. Wondering if it would fool cops where detectors are illegal. http://www.escortradar.com/iq/ (worked this time!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchmotoho Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 The V1 in the real world is the best detector out there hands down. Nothing else even comes close to quickly picking up a laser signal as quickly as the V1. The passport is close but not quite as quick. As far as the other ones go you are pretty much throwing money out the window. V1s and Passports are the two quickest by far but once again the V1 in my experience is quicker. My experience in this comes from me being the guy who points the laser all day (pretty much all day) at cars. Most drivers with V1s will hit the brakes about half a second after the reading comes back to the gun. The Passport is also one of the best as well however it seems to be a tad behind the V1 (a tad behind as you probably know is huge in this case) Yes I know that driver reaction is critical and of course everyone does not have equal ability however my opinion is based upon probably 500 to 800 encounters with all kinds of detectors and jammers so my sampling pool is pretty extensive. Of course the best defense is common sense along with a good sense of awareness. I have never knowingly given a ticket to a Shelby owner ( My love for those old Mustangs with the stripes started back in around 79 or 80, I joined SAAC for a couple years in 82 (couldn't afford the renewals after that) and I currently own 6S1117). I actually pretty much give a lot of leeway to anyone driving an enthusiast car as long as they are not driving like a complete you know what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel 007 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 The V1 in the real world is the best detector out there hands down. Nothing else even comes close to quickly picking up a laser signal as quickly as the V1. The passport is close but not quite as quick. As far as the other ones go you are pretty much throwing money out the window. V1s and Passports are the two quickest by far but once again the V1 in my experience is quicker. My experience in this comes from me being the guy who points the laser all day (pretty much all day) at cars. Most drivers with V1s will hit the brakes about half a second after the reading comes back to the gun. The Passport is also one of the best as well however it seems to be a tad behind the V1 (a tad behind as you probably know is huge in this case) Yes I know that driver reaction is critical and of course everyone does not have equal ability however my opinion is based upon probably 500 to 800 encounters with all kinds of detectors and jammers so my sampling pool is pretty extensive. But any good radar detector will work if you are not the only car on the road and you pay attention to the detector. If you drive down the road and you are getting blips on your detector and they are getting stronger as you go you know there is a gun at work ahead and you should slow down long before you get clocked. If you are the only car on the road and get hit with radar you better not be speeding because you just got clocked. The last ticket I got was 1980. Radar was still pretty new then and it was after that I bought my first escort radar detector. Bought the K-40 Laser diffuser in 2002 and police have hit me about 50 times with Laser but they can not get a reading on me before I slow down. Hence, 33 years with no ticket driving hot rod cars. Hint: if you ever get clocked don't make the officer chase you down. Just pull over and stop and wait for him to come to you. He will be more likely to let you off that way. In 1980 I was 30 over (85 in a 55) and knew I got clocked. It was deer season and the police were taking a leak on the side of the road in the upper peninsula of Michigan on a lonely highway at 1:00am. I saw the radar gun hanging outside the window and saw them run to the car. I just stopped and waited. They called the plates in but they felt so bad because they were under orders to write a ticket for all stops, no warnings during deer season. They wrote me up for 5 over and kept appologizing to me for doing so. Then they told me to be careful if I was going to drive that fast. Yep, right up to 85 again with them following me about 1/4 mile back. I hunted with a bunch of Michigan state troopers and they verified for me that they were ordered to write tickets. But no tickets since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pchmotoho Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 But any good radar detector will work if you are not the only car on the road and you pay attention to the detector. If you drive down the road and you are getting blips on your detector and they are getting stronger as you go you know there is a gun at work ahead and you should slow down long before you get clocked. If you are the only car on the road and get hit with radar you better not be speeding because you just got clocked. The last ticket I got was 1980. Radar was still pretty new then and it was after that I bought my first escort radar detector. Bought the K-40 Laser diffuser in 2002 and police have hit me about 50 times with Laser but they can not get a reading on me before I slow down. Hence, 33 years with no ticket driving hot rod cars. Hint: if you ever get clocked don't make the officer chase you down. Just pull over and stop and wait for him to come to you. He will be more likely to let you off that way. In 1980 I was 30 over (85 in a 55) and knew I got clocked. It was deer season and the police were taking a leak on the side of the road in the upper peninsula of Michigan on a lonely highway at 1:00am. I saw the radar gun hanging outside the window and saw them run to the car. I just stopped and waited. They called the plates in but they felt so bad because they were under orders to write a ticket for all stops, no warnings during deer season. They wrote me up for 5 over and kept appologizing to me for doing so. Then they told me to be careful if I was going to drive that fast. Yep, right up to 85 again with them following me about 1/4 mile back. I hunted with a bunch of Michigan state troopers and they verified for me that they were ordered to write tickets. But no tickets since then. Very true anyone one will work I would rather just have the one with the much quicker return. A lot of times a laser can get five or six reading before a detector (granted a cheap one) even picks it up. If the police are looking for 20 over and the car being shot at gets a quick return while going only 18 or 19 over hopefully you will slow down before he gets you at 20 over the speed limit. In your first sentence you mention paying attention, paying attention is more important than anything else out there. That alone is much more valuable than the latest greatest jammers and/or detectors You would be (or maybe not) amazed of how many people out there drive really great cars and have their heads completely up their you know whats. Heres to another 33 years with no tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffInDFW Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 When I was in high school, all the car magazines RAVED about the original Escort radar detector. Mid 1980s. I got one. It was incredible. I've always followed the tests, and when Mike Valentine left Cincinati Microwave (the makers of the Escort line) to start his own company, the Valentine 1 was born. In its first test, it destroyed -everything- out there. I bought one. As technology marched forward, I was stunned when I learned that instead of making me buy a new detector everytime a new advancement came out, Mike Valentine set his company up so that all I had to do was send them my detector, and they would upgrade it and send it back. The upgrade cost is determind by what had to be changed. Over the years, a few have been free, but others had a small charge. But, its been awesome to go online, enter my units serial number, and find out what upgrades are available and what the cost would be. I have owned a Valentine 1 since they first came out, and have never had a unit fail. I am beyond a satisfied customer. I would urge anyone interested, to go to the Valentine 1 web site and read the information there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackonblack Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 When I was in high school, all the car magazines RAVED about the original Escort radar detector. Mid 1980s. I got one. It was incredible. I've always followed the tests, and when Mike Valentine left Cincinati Microwave (the makers of the Escort line) to start his own company, the Valentine 1 was born. In its first test, it destroyed -everything- out there. I bought one. As technology marched forward, I was stunned when I learned that instead of making me buy a new detector everytime a new advancement came out, Mike Valentine set his company up so that all I had to do was send them my detector, and they would upgrade it and send it back. The upgrade cost is determind by what had to be changed. Over the years, a few have been free, but others had a small charge. But, its been awesome to go online, enter my units serial number, and find out what upgrades are available and what the cost would be. I have owned a Valentine 1 since they first came out, and have never had a unit fail. I am beyond a satisfied customer. I would urge anyone interested, to go to the Valentine 1 web site and read the information there. +1 - they are the BEST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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