devious_stang Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/embed/yZBKBf8Zsjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Wow :o , 100 more HP and lb./ft. torque. You're right about the excuses, too many being made for the zl1. They need to run them. I think it's gonna get ugly for the camaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I'd say it's curtains for the Bow Tie Boys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08KR525 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 The Shelby makes more power and is lighter. That's a hard combination for the ZL1 to beat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious_stang Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 according to the GM guys, the mag ride will kill the shelby, forget the drag race they are giving lessons on to launch a automatic?! seriously? either way if the shelby wins at everything the excuse will be : " well what did Ford run at the 'ring?" or " shelby is ugly or we sell more V6 camaros" its ridiculous at this point in due time, we will see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whammer Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 The Camaro guys will scream that it's NOT a 2013 ZL1, it's a 2012. Thus they will compare it against the 2012 GT500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmgreddy Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I love how the 630 ft/lb. Torque numbers are actually underrated for the Shelby!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 The Camaro guys will scream that it's NOT a 2013 ZL1, it's a 2012. Thus they will compare it against the 2012 GT500. lol they are actually doing this as we speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious_stang Posted June 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 most of them are complete tools....they are a source of laughter...worse than ricers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 The Camaro guys will scream that it's NOT a 2013 ZL1, it's a 2012. Thus they will compare it against the 2012 GT500. I bet it's a driver's race between the '12 GT500 and the zl1. They have very similar power to weight ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 They have very similar power to weight ratios. Huh? The Shelby GT500 has more HP and weighs less than the Camaro. What am I missing? Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 most of them are complete tools....they are a source of laughter...worse than ricers I have to agree. They sure did get drunk on GM's kool-aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Huh? The Shelby GT500 has more HP and weighs less than the Camaro. What am I missing? Phill I was comparing the '12 GT500 to the '12 zl1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 I was comparing the '12 GT500 to the '12 zl1. Ah, okay. That's the part I was missing. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthracer777 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Actually, the ZL1 is no competition for the '13 Shelby. The Shelby is too good now. It's time to only compare the Z06 to the new Shelby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Actually, the ZL1 is no competition for the '13 Shelby. The Shelby is too good now. It's time to only compare the Z06 to the new Shelby. Where? Dyno / 1/4 mile / road race track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glroy Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Going to have to get one. It is putting down the same HP as mine compleatly stock.Just WOW!! December will be a good time to go looking for a new rag top. Time to build a second garage, guess the stable will be growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthracer777 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Where? Dyno / 1/4 mile / road race track? Well, on the dyno, the Shelby has it; the 1/4 mile would be a good test; I think the Z has it on the road courses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judgeman6970 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 poor GM....again, "a day late & a dollar short"*_* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gators196 Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Would be integrating to see. Bet it would be close. During the "King of the Road" series they raced the 2012 GT350 against porche turbo, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and the z06. The z was the closest one but the GT350 beat it by 4 seconds which is an eternity on a road coarse. Some claim the GT350 had the advantage because of how good Gary can drive and his home track. Even if that is the case I don't think it was a 4 second advantage. Maybe 2 but not 4. The GT350 should be pretty close in performance to the 13 GT500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Would be integrating to see. Bet it would be close. During the "King of the Road" series they raced the 2012 GT350 against porche turbo, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and the z06. The z was the closest one but the GT350 beat it by 4 seconds which is an eternity on a road coarse. Some claim the GT350 had the advantage because of how good Gary can drive and his home track. Even if that is the case I don't think it was a 4 second advantage. Maybe 2 but not 4. The GT350 should be pretty close in performance to the 13 GT500. ...on a road course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Well, on the dyno, the Shelby has it; the 1/4 mile would be a good test; I think the Z has it on the road courses. Then what about a ZR1 if it's a dyno contest? The 13' GT500 is be BY FAR the best HP/$ around...whatever this contest could show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 For the bow tie boys that want to compare the same year only, then say ok, let's compare 2013 to 2013. The 2012 vs. 2012 is pretty darn close with the Camaro pulling ahead in some areas like HP. But others are pretty equal. 2013 vs. 2013, really no contest any longer there. Eventhough the Chevy vs. Ford thing here will always play out, it's great to see what is going on, as I can't imagine we will see much better. These are the good times!! Cherrish what we are being given now. Certainly both awesome machines!! I'm just glad to be in the blue oval camp right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gators196 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 ...on a road course. Shouldn't be that big at the 1/4 mile either. MM & FF claim mid Elleven's in their test and some say 12:00 flat. Launch control on 13 would defiantly help especially for the non-pro. But the 350 was designed for road course rather 1/4. Hell...FORD had to try to best the 350 seeing it was faster than the 11/12 GT500. The 350 is supposed to better than SS on the Road course 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious_stang Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 evolutions car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Well, on the dyno, the Shelby has it; the 1/4 mile would be a good test; I think the Z has it on the road courses. the shelby is faster than the FGT around a road course. How could you think the pig ZL1 could best it on the road course when its faster than the american super car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 evolutions car... You sure that's a '13? The only other '13 I've heard run a quarter had a long long LONNNNNG first gear on it and they're supposed to run the 1/4 in 3 gears, not 4. Whatever that is, it sounds NASTY. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious_stang Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 Yes, that 13' belongs to Evolution performance, they modded that car. It likely has 3.73 or 4.10 gears, hence why it shifted quick into 2nd and 4th right before the traps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 You sure that's a '13? The only other '13 I've heard run a quarter had a long long LONNNNNG first gear on it and they're supposed to run the 1/4 in 3 gears, not 4. Whatever that is, it sounds NASTY. Phill Phill, Click on the YouTube icon in the lower right hand corner so you can launch the video in full screen mode. Now freeze the playback at the 10 second mark. See the dual exhaust tips and recessed rear lights? Yep... that's the new 2013 beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted June 8, 2012 Report Share Posted June 8, 2012 the shelby is faster than the FGT around a road course. How could you think the pig ZL1 could best it on the road course when its faster than the american super car? That is just your opinion. I wait for a proof of both to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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