mullens Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 I was at the dealer and had some time to kill so I walked over to Dodge who had a new 392 Edition Challenger on the floor. Good looking ride, but I wasn't as impressed as I thought I would be. The first thing that struck me was its size. Maybe I'm used to the Shelby, but that is a BIG car. The seats are very plush and the interior is real nice. The 4 wheel Brembos and slotted rotors are also impressive, but except for that it looked like a garden variety Challenger. We complain about the small tires on our cars, but the Challenger has 255/45/20's. You'd think Dodge would have put bigger meats on their flagship Challenger. Here comes the best part: Base MSRP $42,850. Just over $50k with options (still not bad). BUT $16,995 ADM brings it over 67k. A little much even for an inaugural edtion. And someone will pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrakRat Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 If not for my GT500, I strongly believe that my next choice would've been that 392 Challenger. It really is a nice package and nails down the quarter in 12.9, and considering the weight and 255 rear tires, that isn't bad at all. I'm excited that they made so many improvements on the '11 to keep it relevant. Then we come to the looks department.... and they NAILED it. I love the look of the car and of all the retro rides out there, I think Dodge knocked this one out of the park. Don't get me wrong, I adore my Shelby, but looks off the showroom floor to me is almost a toss up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted March 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Don't get me wrong, I'm an old Mopar guy and I liked the car. It's a definite looker, I just think that they could have made it a bit more unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vapor08GT500 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Gorgeous car, I really think it is the best Dodge has done in years. I have supercharged 2 of them, they are fast, they look great, but still are WAY too heavy and have a terrible blindspot.... Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDan Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 If not for my GT500, I strongly believe that my next choice would've been that 392 Challenger. It really is a nice package and nails down the quarter in 12.9, and considering the weight and 255 rear tires, that isn't bad at all. I'm excited that they made so many improvements on the '11 to keep it relevant. Then we come to the looks department.... and they NAILED it. I love the look of the car and of all the retro rides out there, I think Dodge knocked this one out of the park. Don't get me wrong, I adore my Shelby, but looks off the showroom floor to me is almost a toss up. I saw video's of them on youtube running 12.4 with an auto on stock 20's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted March 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Oh yea, I almost forgot. THEY NOW CHARGE FOR AIR IN THE TIRES. No I'm not joking. I was looking at the sticker and I see $195 for Nitrogen. I think maybe it's for nitrogen charged shocks. Oh no. I ask the salesman, and he tells me that the tires are now filled with nitrogen (a al Nascar) and they charge you for it. I was almost floored...I figured it was some kind of joke. I'm thinking, what happens when you have to add air? Take it to the dealer? I'm pretty sure my local Shell station doesn't have nitrogen pumps sitting outside. Just when you think you've seen it all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 I run nitrogen in all my cars actually. It's really nice to have, since the pressures don't fluctuate when the tires heat up or cool down. As for the new Challenger, I love the look of it almost as much as the new motor. But that price tag is a little bananas for what you're getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Oh yea, I almost forgot. THEY NOW CHARGE FOR AIR IN THE TIRES. No I'm not joking. I was looking at the sticker and I see $195 for Nitrogen. I think maybe it's for nitrogen charged shocks. Oh no. I ask the salesman, and he tells me that the tires are now filled with nitrogen (a al Nascar) and they charge you for it. I was almost floored...I figured it was some kind of joke. I'm thinking, what happens when you have to add air? Take it to the dealer? I'm pretty sure my local Shell station doesn't have nitrogen pumps sitting outside. Just when you think you've seen it all.... You really don`t have to take it to a dealer to have the nitrogen topped off most tire dealers have it as there are alot of cars that have nitrogen in their tires.now. Pressure stays constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted March 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Damn learn something new every day. Even still, almost $200?? Bettter yet..they should use helium. It will lighten the car up considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 I traded a Challenger SRT for my Shelby. I'm happy and have no regrets ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Damn learn something new every day. Even still, almost $200?? Bettter yet..they should use helium. It will lighten the car up considerably. You're right, $200 is asinine. I've never seen it priced any higher than $10 per tire. I usually pay $3-$4 per tire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck24 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 It's a badass looking car but I'm a performance enthusiast first and when a car weighs that much it's hard to justify that price, but that's just me. If your in it for looks, it's one of the best choices out there. If I'm not mistaken isn't the 300, Challenger and Charger all still based off of an old E class chassis from Mercedes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 ^How much did you pay for that GT500 with an advertised curb weight of 3820 lbs? It's cute how Mustang fans only mention a vehicle's obesity when Mopar is in the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck24 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 ^How much did you pay for that GT500 with an advertised curb weight of 3820 lbs? It's cute how Mustang fans only mention a vehicle's obesity when Mopar is in the conversation. Oh I'm no lightweight, but I should have clarified, for modern muscle cars the mopar is the heaviest. And for 42k MSRP there are many other muscle car options if performance is your goal. The Camaro is heavier than ours too. You won't ever hear me talk about my car in the same conversation as a vette or another sports car because they are apples to oranges but in the modern muscle car wars it seems as though Ford is at least trying to shed weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 ^Fair enough man. All in good fun here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang let back Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 with the tugboat challenger 392 doing a flat 13,the new 5.0 still kicks its ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salar Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Challenger is all appearance of a performance and is anything but a Challenger, very heavy and not enough horse power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalwrench Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 The old Mopars were heavy too. But, it was the high price that I thought was ridiculous. I remember when they first out here in CA, the mark up was ridiculous. I kept thinking a GT500KR was around the same price but way faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexVogel Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Oh yea, I almost forgot. THEY NOW CHARGE FOR AIR IN THE TIRES. No I'm not joking. I was looking at the sticker and I see $195 for Nitrogen. I think maybe it's for nitrogen charged shocks. Oh no. I ask the salesman, and he tells me that the tires are now filled with nitrogen (a al Nascar) and they charge you for it. I was almost floored...I figured it was some kind of joke. I'm thinking, what happens when you have to add air? Take it to the dealer? I'm pretty sure my local Shell station doesn't have nitrogen pumps sitting outside. Just when you think you've seen it all.... When I picked up my car there was a 35 dollar charge (considerably less than 195) for Nitrogen filled tires. Comes with 1 year of free fill-ups at any NitroFill location (like 8 in my local area), and an additional road side assistance deal all for 35 bucks. I didn't balk at it, from what I understand there is actually something to be had using nitrogen as far as losing air, tread life on tires because of that and MPG increase because of that...although nothing is going to make me get better MPG at this point except not pounding the accelerator down so much. I've got 5400 miles on the car already, 3 trips to drag strip, 1 day at VIR and last time I checked pressure last Saturday, were still at basically the same pressure as when I got the car. I'd say that's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Now that I know the value of nitrogen I'd gladly pay $35 for it. Dealers are a rip off with extras and always will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socalwrench Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 That's why dealerships are now called stealerships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Gorilla Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 If not for my GT500, I strongly believe that my next choice would've been that 392 Challenger. It really is a nice package and nails down the quarter in 12.9, and considering the weight and 255 rear tires, that isn't bad at all. I'm excited that they made so many improvements on the '11 to keep it relevant. Then we come to the looks department.... and they NAILED it. I love the look of the car and of all the retro rides out there, I think Dodge knocked this one out of the park. Don't get me wrong, I adore my Shelby, but looks off the showroom floor to me is almost a toss up. Couldn't have said it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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