TopCat501 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 [ Anyone know if the hypereutectic pistons in the LSA motor are cast or forged? For some reason I think I have seen or heard that the pistons in the LSA motor is the weak link and more of a bottle neck than what the GT500 motor is capable of. Because just like the GT500, a great many of the LT1's will be modified. So no matter which stock car beats the other stock car in the magazine test, that means nothing when you come upon one of these in the wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TN Red Snake Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 [ Anyone know if the hypereutectic pistons in the LSA motor are cast or forged? For some reason I think I have seen or heard that the pistons in the LSA motor is the weak link and more of a bottle neck than what the GT500 motor is capable of. Because just like the GT500, a great many of the LT1's will be modified. So no matter which stock car beats the other stock car in the magazine test, that means nothing when you come upon one of these in the wild. That is very true, but a modicum of respect will be earned by all drivers on both sides. And maybe some good natured comroderie and fun will be had by all. Competition is a good thing. I've never felt bad about being beaten in a race, it just inspires inovation and drive. A little competition keeps the blood flowing and the mind working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach 1 1970 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 It's 1969 all over again, the top dog Camaro was the ZL-1 ( a total of 69 were made ) with the 427 aluminum big block . Feb 1969 issue of Super Stock magazine said the ZL1 could cover the quarter mile in 10.41 @ 128.10 mph. Now Chevy brings out the ZL-1 Camaro again . This Camaro which i hated @ first has grown on me . This ZL-1 is a real shot in the arm for GM, who knows might consider one. This shows me there are still some hard core car guys @ Chevy . Boy these are the days of HOT cars again !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIKEBOY Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 It's 1969 all over again, the top dog Camaro was the ZL-1 ( a total of 69 were made ) with the 427 aluminum big block . Now Chevy brings out the ZL-1 Camaro again . This Camaro which i hated @ first has grown on me . This ZL-1 is a real shot in the arm for GM, who knows might consider one. This shows me there are still some hard core car guys @ Chevy . Boy these are the days of HOT cars again !!! Agreed....it is 1969 all over again.............remember what happened in the dawn of 1970? B) * Aaahhh...the wrath of the Middle East. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach 1 1970 Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Agreed....it is 1969 all over again.............remember what happened in the dawn of 1970? B) * Aaahhh...the wrath of the Middle East. :rolleyes: Maybe we will get our oil from Canada and the 70's won't happen this time . I will say this HP war must stop somewhere , the ZR1 corvette is getting a bit much for the average corvette driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIKEBOY Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Maybe we will get our oil from Canada and the 70's won't happen this time . I will say this HP war must stop somewhere , the ZR1 corvette is getting a bit much for the average corvette driver. A few things are VERY different this time 'round....... Lot's of power that is 'seemingly' easier to drive. Cars are FAR more advanced these days...traction control, ABS, and suspensions that can handle all of the increased hp! Hence people drive faster more frequently. More cars with 'more' power. Hell even the Hyundai Genesis coupe, (targeted to young 20 somethings) has 300 horseys! Plus, now you have texting, that wasn't a thing of the past. It is much easier to get yourself into trouble these days behind the wheel! It HAS to stop soon, if not for fuel prices. Mr. Negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang loco Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 It's 1969 all over again, the top dog Camaro was the ZL-1 ( a total of 69 were made ) with the 427 aluminum big block . Feb 1969 issue of Super Stock magazine said the ZL1 could cover the quarter mile in 10.41 @ 128.10 mph. Now Chevy brings out the ZL-1 Camaro again . This Camaro which i hated @ first has grown on me . This ZL-1 is a real shot in the arm for GM, who knows might consider one. This shows me there are still some hard core car guys @ Chevy . Boy these are the days of HOT cars again !!! Totally agree with you, but SLP is or was supposed to bring this ZL-1 special packaged car with a ltd number of 69# being built just like back in the day....OH,well.let's wait and see... http://slpcamaro.com/zl-models/zl1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIKEBOY Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 It's 1969 all over again, the top dog Camaro was the ZL-1 ( a total of 69 were made ) with the 427 aluminum big block . Feb 1969 issue of Super Stock magazine said the ZL1 could cover the quarter mile in 10.41 @ 128.10 mph. Now Chevy brings out the ZL-1 Camaro again . This Camaro which i hated @ first has grown on me . This ZL-1 is a real shot in the arm for GM, who knows might consider one. This shows me there are still some hard core car guys @ Chevy . Boy these are the days of HOT cars again !!! I found this mag in my 'collection' this morning... July 2008.....things were beginning to heat up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolio2k4 Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Camaro with a V engine and magnetic suspension off the ZR1 and V? Damn theres going to be some crazy competition. Now the ball is in Fords Court! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVENGE Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Despite the negativity you see here I am sure some of these gT500 owners will be looking to trade up to the ZL1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlugs Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Despite the negativity you see here I am sure some of these gT500 owners will be looking to trade up to the ZL1. ...how is that considered a "trade up"? It's still a car that I think looks inferior to those of my GT500, and sitting in an SS, the inside looks cheap and cheesy... and it has some serious blind spots! Hardly a trade up, if you ask me. If I were to get another modern pony/muscle car in the near future, it wouldn't be to replace my GT500, and probably wouldn't be a Camaro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtmattUT Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 ...how is that considered a "trade up"? It's still a car that I think looks inferior to those of my GT500, and sitting in an SS, the inside looks cheap and cheesy... and it has some serious blind spots! Hardly a trade up, if you ask me. If I were to get another modern pony/muscle car in the near future, it wouldn't be to replace my GT500, and probably wouldn't be a Camaro. Ditto. Sorry but Ford is considered the trade up here, plasma coated cylinders walls with 4 valves, a technology package that rivals the best in the biz, superb interior and exterior design, lighter, matches the output of the ZL1 with a much smaller displacement motor, oh yeah and a Shelby nameplate with real heritage not some obscure one off reference from 69 without a face behind it. The only dept. the ZL1 wins in are the brakes. The Zl1 is undoubtedly a cool car but "trade up" was the wrong choice of words. That being said, If GM hired a decent interior design team I might consider it. Seriously the 2011 vette still looks dated as hell inside, as if it was designed in early 2000, it has a freakin calculator display in the center stack... and camaro is just an aweful mess of cheap plastics and poor taste. I really like the exteriors on both but those interiors are just deal breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Despite the negativity you see here I am sure some of these gT500 owners will be looking to trade up to the ZL1. :rolleyes: :do what: That's gotta be the dumbest thing posted on here. :lol2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIKEBOY Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 REVENGE, I'm sorry, but I've completely lost track here...Are you currently a Mustang or Shelby owner? Just curious? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salar Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 The only thing that's impressing about the new Camaro is it's price, how can they offer huge tires, light weight wheels, 6 piston brembo front, 4 piston rear, and magnetic dampers for only $47k?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT5687 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 The only thing that's impressing about the new Camaro is it's price, how can they offer huge tires, light weight wheels, 6 piston brembo front, 4 piston rear, and magnetic dampers for only $47k?? ...by spending $6 on the interior... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtmattUT Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 ...by spending $6 on the interior... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIKEBOY Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 and....................................................government subsidies!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtime Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 ...by spending $6 on the interior... I have to admit, that is FUNNY !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobeydick Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 The only thing that's impressing about the new Camaro is it's price, how can they offer huge tires, light weight wheels, 6 piston brembo front, 4 piston rear, and magnetic dampers for only $47k?? That's a teaser price, MSRP will be $49,500.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REVENGE Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 ...how is that considered a "trade up"? It's still a car that I think looks inferior to those of my GT500, and sitting in an SS, the inside looks cheap and cheesy... and it has some serious blind spots! Hardly a trade up, if you ask me. If I were to get another modern pony/muscle car in the near future, it wouldn't be to replace my GT500, and probably wouldn't be a Camaro. Why is it people here are so determined to cloud the issue? We are talking about PERFORMANCE. My statement is when this Camaro comes out it will be faster than the GT500. It will be the latest and greatest so despite the vocal minority in this thread you can be sure some GT500 owners will be quick to trade up to the better performing Camaro. I see posts from Camaro owners calling the Mustang cheaply made I(they say the Mustang is lighter because under the skin the mustang is cheap while the Camaro is built like a tank) and I see post from Mustang owners saying the Camaro is cheaply made. Its funny actually reading both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT5687 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Blah, blah, blah, the car that hasn't proven anything yet... is THE BEST!.... fantastic point. Bravo sir. Well done. I do gotta say, this guy sure does have a knack for stoking a fire every time it's seemingly cold. Funny thing is... nearly all his posts 149 are about loving Chevy's... sounds like someone is lost on the way to pleasegodletcamarosbeawesomeagain.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svttim Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Why is it people here are so determined to cloud the issue? We are talking about PERFORMANCE. My statement is when this Camaro comes out it will be faster than the GT500. It will be the latest and greatest so despite the vocal minority in this thread you can be sure some GT500 owners will be quick to trade up to the better performing Camaro. I see posts from Camaro owners calling the Mustang cheaply made I(they say the Mustang is lighter because under the skin the mustang is cheap while the Camaro is built like a tank) and I see post from Mustang owners saying the Camaro is cheaply made. Its funny actually reading both sides. Really, its about what you like. If your a Camaro fan, you will find a reason it is a better car. However, You are crowning the Camaro the winner before it turns a wheel. Lets wait and see what performance the car has. In the meantime, Im pretty sure Ford already has something up thier sleave. Its always nice when magazines pick your car as faster but, what does that translate to on the streets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 ...by spending $6 on the interior... ...and the exterior That POS is still ugly. :barf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT5687 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Now that's hilarious... BTW, I liked your original post better! You can't outrun ugly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Beyond Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Now that's hilarious... BTW, I liked your original post better! You can't outrun ugly... Yeah, I remember someone posting that on here. :lol2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobeydick Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Blah, blah, blah, the car that hasn't proven anything yet... is THE BEST!.... fantastic point. Bravo sir. Well done. I do gotta say, this guy sure does have a knack for stoking a fire every time it's seemingly cold. Funny thing is... nearly all his posts 149 are about loving Chevy's... sounds like someone is lost on the way to pleasegodletcamarosbeawesomeagain.com He's been banned from LStech so he's overhere trolling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT5687 Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 He's been banned from LStech so he's overhere trolling! You don't say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleestack Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 [ Anyone know if the hypereutectic pistons in the LSA motor are cast or forged? For some reason I think I have seen or heard that the pistons in the LSA motor is the weak link and more of a bottle neck than what the GT500 motor is capable of. Because just like the GT500, a great many of the LT1's will be modified. So no matter which stock car beats the other stock car in the magazine test, that means nothing when you come upon one of these in the wild. No forged Pistons in the upcoming ZL1. Big mistake by GM, leaving them firmly behind the GT500 in performance potential. Since boost is limited in the LSA, there are no aftermarket Superchargers lining up. Highest HP on the LSA is achieved by swapping Cam, Heads, Headers, and Porting the SC. That is 620RWHP for about $10k, and your HP is maxed out in a car that weighs over 4k. Glad GM has a chip in the game, but not many Shelby owners will fear the ZL1....... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Blah, blah, blah, the car that hasn't proven anything yet... is THE BEST!.... fantastic point. Bravo sir. Well done. I do gotta say, this guy sure does have a knack for stoking a fire every time it's seemingly cold. Funny thing is... nearly all his posts 149 are about loving Chevy's... sounds like someone is lost on the way to www.pleasegodletcamarosbeawesomeagain.com Another Government Motors failure... the above link isn't working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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