gators196 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 what kind of performance mods can be done safely to get the most out of the 2011 gt350? change pulley's? Headers? Throttle body upgrade? I dont have knowledge in this area so please comment on what if any of this makes sense. Any other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbymotorsports Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 what kind of performance mods can be done safely to get the most out of the 2011 gt350? change pulley's? Headers? Throttle body upgrade? I dont have knowledge in this area so please comment on what if any of this makes sense. Any other ideas? The 624 hp factory 'R' tune option is a great start. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I can tell you after getting this car with 624 hp, I couldnt possibly want more power mods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gators196 Posted November 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I can tell you after getting this car with 624 hp, I couldnt possibly want more power mods... Is there any axel hop when you get on it off the line? I test drove a 2011 GT yesterday and there was quite a bit of axel hop. I was expecting the tires to break loose but it felt kind of funny with the hopping. Does the suspoension upgrades on the 350 fix this? Thanks for your feedback. I am getting real close to pulling the trigger on this and info helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony356 Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 Is there any axel hop when you get on it off the line? I test drove a 2011 GT yesterday and there was quite a bit of axel hop. I was expecting the tires to break loose but it felt kind of funny with the hopping. Does the suspoension upgrades on the 350 fix this? Thanks for your feedback. I am getting real close to pulling the trigger on this and info helps. Maybe Warren can chime in here as for me it is just to cold here to get any heat in the tires to make any realistic judgement on this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 yeah, the tires are best in 80+ temps, but no wheel hop, just spinouts if you go WOT just like any car with that kind of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedyman Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I can tell you after getting this car with 624 hp, I couldnt possibly want more power mods... I'll bet that is one awesome piece of machinery. The GT350 reportedly handles this power quite well. Don't think I would wanna mess with such a good thing. Congratulations on your purchase and enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowCar Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Longtubes and tune will help make more power safley. It seems wheelhop is an issue unless you change the upper and lower control arms and add a good drag radial or slick to absorb the shock from a shift. Im adding traction devices for next season. I did manage an 11.9 with slicks though.Good luck with your modding choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted December 31, 2010 Report Share Posted December 31, 2010 Im in the 11s...low 11s without any suspension changes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO-SVT Posted January 1, 2011 Report Share Posted January 1, 2011 Im in the 11s...low 11s without any suspension changes... What did you end up running Warren? You never replied to the thread where you ran 12-something. What ET and MPH did it run in the 11's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Yeah, you are right. The car ran a 12.49 on street tires in 40 degrees with no warm up and tires had ZERO traction. I beleive the MPH at the gate was 119. My 100 ft was just under 3 seconds, which was terrible. I did a SIMULATED run on a dyno that was 11s, and I flat just got those numbers out of my head mixed up. That said, I will buy some drags, and run it in the next few months when the weather is a bit more managable, and I do expect mid to low 11s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowCar Posted January 3, 2011 Report Share Posted January 3, 2011 Dubbfaris good luck on the 11 second quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Thanks, I will be shocked to the core if this car doesnt hit low 11s with drags and I get a good launch. thanks.. you will know soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT/SC#0471 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 post the time slips, that stops the chatter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO-SVT Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 post the time slips, that stops the chatter... Indeed. But I'll say that "low 11's" is going to be a tall order unless there's changes made. It's just like sports- when you say "That's why they play the games" It's also why they run the races. Longtime drag racers will tell you to toss out the dyno sheet and the speculation and get it down the track. We don't put stock in magazine results. We don't fear lining up with someone touting big horsepower numbers. You still have to drive it. It's not as easy as some would believe, especially those who frequent the road course. (That's not directed at anyone in particular, just an observation) If you put too much stock in dyno results or magazine articles, chances are high that you'll get your feelings hurt and your ego bruised at the track by those cars the magazine says can't hang with you. MANY a Corvette owner has found this out the hard way. For example... Lots of people tell me I have a "10 second car". No, I do not. I have an 11-second car and until I put up a 10.xx on the big boards, that's what it will remain. You can't lay claim to an ET bracket unless you DO IT. It would be no different than a guy posting lap times; I live just down the road from Road America. Racers obviously measure results at R/A by the lap time. Many a road racer can tell you, you can spend all the cash you want on suspension and horsepower. You can still get wacked by a driver who rents a base Mustang GT for the weekend. You can't say "This car could get around the track in 3:20 based on the power and suspension I have" You'd get laughed off the premises. It's no different with drag racing. As plenty of guys have found out, you can keep throwing money at the car, but sometimes it's "subtraction by addition". By that I mean you actually slow down sometimes after you add something. It upsets the balance of the car or forces you to change technique and you can't find the number. Anyway, get some seat time Warren. Experiment with your shift points, launch technique, etc. Sometimes you gotta pedal it to get it down the track, but you can still get decent numbers that way. It's all in the pedal dance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well, I cant use a simulated run to project the times, no, I was referring to having hit 11s already, which hasnt happened, but it I can speculate from a real run that I can analyze. Im going off of how the car did under extremely bad conditions. It was VERY cold. 40 degree weather makes for tires as hard as plastic. Looking at my slip time for the 12.49, it should have done 0-100 ft in about 2 seconds, instead of the 3 it did it in. I just had no traction at all. So Im thinking it should be a solid second faster, but as soon as we have decent Wednesday evening, I will find out. I will add one thing though- Im a track guy, not a 1/4 mile guy, so Im sure there are some here that could launch my car better than me. There was a friend of ours out there who did a run with a basket of fries in his lap. That pretty much sums up 1/4 mile for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT/SC#0471 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 good post GO-SVT...like I said post the slips guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA SCOTTY Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Thanks, I will be shocked to the core if this car doesnt hit low 11s with drags and I get a good launch. thanks.. you will know soon! Me to Warren, but like GO-SVT AND Randy have said it will take some time. It took me 6 runs to get myself and my GT500 dialed in before i was able to get into the high 11's when it only had 563 rwhp. I am sure you will get there with better weather and more runs down the 1/4 mile. Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportscars Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I'm trying to get him to the drag strip every chance I get. I'll keep banging him on it. He is a bit concerned about breaking something during the launch (which is understandable). I keep telling him that it's only money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 We should have gone last night, but Im still fighting the crud....cough cough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShowCar Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I agree with what Greg posted. It makes alot of sense. He saw the way I drove my 5.0 when I bought it. I expected to run better than I did. I ran about twenty more passes since then and I have harnessed the power of the car (learned to drive) and the car responded real well. Seat time is everything. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gators196 Posted May 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 I can tell you after getting this car with 624 hp, I couldnt possibly want more power mods... Are you sure??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Lol, yeah, totally forgot this thread. I suppose this is where all the heat started... That said- Wednesday will be hot but dry, so I should get a couple good runs in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA SCOTTY Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Lol, yeah, totally forgot this thread. I suppose this is where all the heat started... That said- Wednesday will be hot but dry, so I should get a couple good runs in. Exactly Warren this is where all the heat as you call it started. That being said, I hope that you get all the seating you need. More over speaking from my own 200 plus 1/4 mile passes you just do not get into the low or mid 11's without practice no matter how much RWHP you have. So good luck and me and the Crown Royal will be waiting in Michigan no matter what your car runs. Scotty g. :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 Yeah, just picked up my car. Clutch seems great, but I'm having some engine problems now. Codes 0300, 0304, 0307....misfire on cylinders 4 and 7. Guess it might be pushing it to get a run Wednesday. I planned on putting 500 miles on the car the next few days to get the clutch broke in, but now I've got this to deal with. Scotty, funny thing is my mechanic really doubted you having any knowledge of drag racing whatsoever, as a trap speed alone is no telling factor without all numbers being considered. He simply noted that 129 would be hard to believe with a 1.6 sec 60 ft, but reminded me that I had major wheel spin on launch with a 2.2 sec 60 ft., so 129 shouldn't be a surprise to anyone with experience. Just a number to me. I don't care. I've driven my gt500 172 mph with the top down, and 175 with it up. That is something of an achievement to me...not 10-12 seconds of acceleration...or in 2008 driving at top speed several minutes at a time for 6 or 7 stretches....at the Shelby Bullrun in Terlingua....which btw, Nordic Shelby did a great job keeping up in his SGT, and we were averaging at least 130 over a 100 miles of road. That is an achievement of true performance. I'm just doing 1/4 mile runs because every test I have seen is all over the place, but I get no real sense of achievement or fun from it. It's hard on the car and over before you have a chance to get into it. Just my opinion, but we will get baxk out there and give it a go once more. I have no doubt I will get my trap speed number again, and then I will do a better run and get a lower trap speed and better 1/4 mile time. Btw- I don't doubt your drag experience and defended you when he said that, but he felt you shouldn't be questioning that trap speed. Many cars hit well above 130 out at our raceway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA SCOTTY Posted May 29, 2011 Report Share Posted May 29, 2011 i will tell you this about Trap Speeds or more specifically for your car and its weight with the driver and the 373 or 355 ring n pinion gears you have and the horsepower that you have and not to mention your 60ft time. Those items being what they are on your car you would had to have a much better 60ft time ; 1.6 - 1.8 ; and some where in the 650 RWHP range to make up the speed you would have lost with a 2.20 or so 60ft time in the 1/4 mile. Your mechanic might know how to turn a wrench , but he don't no sh*t about drag racing and 60ft times and how that correlates to Trap Speeds and how Trap Speed are directly related to you RWHP. In regards to my credentials as it pertains to drag racing. You can ask any Ford Racing Enginer or persons from SVT that was in attendence at the 2000 SVT Experinece at Milan Dragway in MIchigan. When my car won seven rounds in a row and calminated with a head to head win over the Ford Racing owned 2000 Cobra R which I beat on that day with my White with a Tan Top 1999 SVT Cobra Convertible Tuned by Paul Svinicki of Pauls High Performance in Jackson Michigan. In addition I also in round 2 beat a Mustang owned and driven by Greg Anderson of Anderson Ford Motorsports and NHRA fame. Just as a side bar i have an Uncle his name is Doug Wickham. If that name is familar it should be for he was a Top Fuel Dragster Driver for 20 plus years and was the 8th man in the history of drag racing to top the 200 mph mark. That being said, I started drag racing on the streets and on the track when i was 15 years old with my Uncle Doug as my Mentor and Teacher. So I just might know a thing or two about Drag Racing and 1/4 mile times and Trap Speeds. This is above and beyond my history as an Engineer with Ford Motor Co. and over a half dozen projects that i work on with Ford Racing ; to include the following : 1993 Proto-Type known as "The Sho-Star" an Aerostar with a Taurus SHO Motor in it, 1998 Proto-Type Ford Mustang Flex Fuel Super Stallion , 03 -04 Cobra Mustang and the 2007 Mustang Bullitt. I additionally was in charge of quality control for all of the Ford Nascar and Truck Series 8.8 axle assemblies from 1997 - 2007. Which also was in every Mustang built for the last 30 plus years except for the 03-04 Cobra Mustangs Scotty g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Well, that's why I noted that I didn't doubt you and defended your comments to a point, except you have no place to challenge me for claiming a 12.50 1/4 mile, with a trap speed of 129. That's not groundbreaking. Google the lethal performance car that has done the same, with the same power and none of my suspension upgrades. Or, actually FuLLY read one o my posts as you have a habit of skipping the details and proof I do provide. I posted a pic of the mustang Dyno numbers, and you still ask for proof in the same exact thread, or you doubt my trap speed on a slower run, but I provide a picture of the faster run slip, so you focus on something different. I'm just saying- it SEEMS like there is an antagonistic element in a few members posts, but I don't care. I know what my car did and dint do...it isn't making it any better or worse of a car no matter what you WANT to think about. I will admit- never heard of uncle Doug, but I don't know a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT/SC#0471 Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 As a club I think posting the slips is a good idea for anyone searching out 1/4 times for a specific car on google. After you posted the 11's post Warren on New Years Eve, I was going Holy Crap, stock lGT 350 low 11's??? I thought that was on street tires stock. I was thinking of trading to a 350... No biggie, people get mixed up. The 129 mph post seemed like a stretch as you said you launched horrible anf missed a shift with a slipping clutch. No biggie. I am not any expert at any motorsport but to say that 1/4 mile is not your bag is cool...but to discount the sport is wrong. It's very hard. I hope you enjoy all of them with your 350. Scotty I have heard of your Uncle and have loved Drag Racing since my Pop's arranged for me to meet Don Prudhomme when I was about 8. Pops had the recruiting detail at the Winternationals at Ontario Motor Speedway at the time...I watched in amazement in the pits while the crew would tear tgat thing apart, the smell and noise sucked me right in.... Enjoy and Shelby on guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 It all comes down to an attitude though.... Scotty had no problem straight up calling me a liar on the trap speed, but notice how defensive he got when his own credentials were challenged by someone not even on team shelby? We got the full resume, and that was even AFTER I ended my post with the fact that I defended him, and his knowledge, because I think I know him that well. But at the same time, if I approached that same situation with HIS own attitude, I wouldnt have defended him, and after the resume post, and claiming to be related to Uncle Doug, I would have asked for proof of relationship or photos of them in a car together and opening presents under a christmas tree.... I sure hope you dont see this as a challenge, but as a simply opportunity to have some apathy for those you slam on an internet forum. There are REAL people on the other side of these posts. And Scott, I know you choose not to hang out with us at all the Team Shelby events, so perhaps you dont feel the connections with the majority of regular posters on here, but you and I have met, and I would think you would extend me a little credit and respect if I make a claim( other than a claim of time travel when I get my car up to 88 mph ). Like I have said everywhere else, I will be posting a timeslip with a 129 or better, and the only change to the car is a new clutch. If I dont hit 129, I'll post up a 117, or a 105 or whatever I end up with, knowing I will take a major hit of reputation after all that has been said. But I will show timeslips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA SCOTTY Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Hey Warren , Not only do i have pictures of me and my uncle, but I also have a copy of his and Obama's birth certificates. Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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