re50cal Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Is there a K and N filter that will fit 2010-1011 shelby because their website says they dont have one yet, but didn't know if there was another one that would work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDrool Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 No K&N but air raid makes one. I just got mine installed. http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/2010_2011_SHELBY_GT500_WASHABLE_REPLACEMENT_FILTER_p/a860-399.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L82ford Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Yes K&N does. RF1020. It doesn't go onto the factory air intake quite as snug as the OEM unit, but with a few turns of the clamp screw it buttons up tight. You can hear the whine at a lower rpm with this filter over the stock filter. Autoanything has it for fifty something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDrool Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Yes K&N does. RF1020. It doesn't go onto the factory air intake quite as snug as the OEM unit, but with a few turns of the clamp screw it buttons up tight. You can hear the whine at a lower rpm with this filter over the stock filter. Autoanything has it for fifty something. I just went to the K&N web site and searched on 2010 Shelby. The only thing that comes up isan oil filter. The Air filter you quoted looks like a universal fit, which explains your install and fit. The Air Raid is made for the 2010/11 and is a perfect fit. Infact, it even has the tab for the down position just like the OEM Ford product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L82ford Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Is there a K and N filter that will fit 2010-1011 shelby because their website says they dont have one yet, but didn't know if there was another one that would work The OP asked if there is a K&N filter that will fit. He even commented on the fact that K&N's website doen't list one, but he wanted to know "if there was another one that would work." The answer is yes, the RF1020. It fits fine, sounds great and the install takes all of 90 seconds. It does not have the little rubber tab on the bottom front of the filter, but I'm not sure that's a functional deficiency. I'm sure the Airaid filter works well too. I chose the K&N only because one of the most well respected tuners on this forum made the suggestion that I do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezareth Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Is there a K and N filter that will fit 2010-1011 shelby because their website says they dont have one yet, but didn't know if there was another one that would work Should get a K&N cleaning kit. No way a 2010 should need the air filter replaced yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Allen Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Should get a K&N cleaning kit. No way a 2010 should need the air filter replaced yet. What do you mean??? My '11 has 10k miles after 2 months of ownership and I just changed air filter cause it was filthy dirty. These cars are sucking a huge amount of air when in boost. For the price of an air filter it's pretty cheap insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackonblack Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 The OP asked if there is a K&N filter that will fit. He even commented on the fact that K&N's website doen't list one, but he wanted to know "if there was another one that would work." The answer is yes, the RF1020. It fits fine, sounds great and the install takes all of 90 seconds. It does not have the little rubber tab on the bottom front of the filter, but I'm not sure that's a functional deficiency. I'm sure the Airaid filter works well too. I chose the K&N only because one of the most well respected tuners on this forum made the suggestion that I do so. I have the K&N RF1020 in my 2010 GT500 and everything L82ford says is correct. - works great and all is good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re50cal Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Thanks everyone, greatly appreciated. I ordered the K and N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff cox Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Is there a K and N filter that will fit 2010-1011 shelby because their website says they dont have one yet, but didn't know if there was another one that would work I would not use a K&N for it is treated with oil and a high HP motor that pulls so much air, it will pull oil out of the filter and into the motor. Most dealers will tell you not to use any oil treated filters for it can pull so much out of the filter, the oil could cause problems for your motor. I would check with Justin at vmp tuning to see what he thinks. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackonblack Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I would not use a K&N for it is treated with oil and a high HP motor that pulls so much air, it will pull oil out of the filter and into the motor. Most dealers will tell you not to use any oil treated filters for it can pull so much out of the filter, the oil could cause problems for your motor. I would check with Justin at vmp tuning to see what he thinks. Jeff Say what...? I'll bet that K&N would have something to say about this as they have done tons of R&D around their filters and CAI units..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torched10 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Should get a K&N cleaning kit. No way a 2010 should need the air filter replaced yet. mine was dirty at 4000 miles--and i live in Atl which doesnt have alot of dust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L82ford Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I would check with Justin at vmp tuning to see what he thinks. I did, before I ordered my K&N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDrool Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 The site I linked to above is an authorized ford parts site. The filter is more expensive, about $30, however it is a direct OEM replacement part. Much preferred IMO. The Air Raid filter is exactly the same washable, permanent type as the K&N except it is not based on approximate dimensions. I costs more because it is produced for a specific application and not mass produced for a universal fit like the K&N. Additionally, if you enter your vehicle in shows like I do, the "Red" Air Raid filter will always look better because of the fit. It literally looks like it belongs and came with the GT500. As for what a specific tuner would say, that is up to interpretation since the basis behind the filters are the same. In my previous life we had a saying, "Form, Fit, Function", (FFF). Under this reasoning, the K&N only meets 2 of these, Form and Function. The Air Raid meets all 3. Now, to each their own... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDrool Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 I would not use a K&N for it is treated with oil and a high HP motor that pulls so much air, it will pull oil out of the filter and into the motor. Most dealers will tell you not to use any oil treated filters for it can pull so much out of the filter, the oil could cause problems for your motor. I would check with Justin at vmp tuning to see what he thinks. Jeff If that is the case, the PCV would be alot more of a concern. If you don't believe that, review the threads about those that installed the catch cans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff cox Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 If that is the case, the PCV would be alot more of a concern. If you don't believe that, review the threads about those that installed the catch cans. It is simply my belief, do you put any thing besides fuel and air in your intake. No, no one does, if oil was good for your motor to burn thru the combustion chambers we would all have a tank that needed filling on a regular basis. IMO any oil coted filters is doing just that, puts oil into the motor and not the 5w-50 that the motor does require, and I have been involved in racing for 40 years. It is not that K&N is not a good product, just not for these cars, again my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 It is simply my belief, do you put any thing besides fuel and air in your intake. No, no one does, if oil was good for your motor to burn thru the combustion chambers we would all have a tank that needed filling on a regular basis. IMO any oil coted filters is doing just that, puts oil into the motor and not the 5w-50 that the motor does require, and I have been involved in racing for 40 years. It is not that K&N is not a good product, just not for these cars, again my opinion. Jeff I'm partial to dry filters also, but the only guys that have MAF oil contamination problems are the ones that over-oil the filter. Oiled filters only need a minute amount of oil but some guys want to load it on for some reason. I had the FRPP set up on my 08 and never had a problem. Also, the Air Raid rep posted that their filters have an extra layer of cotton to prevent oil from getting in the intake. Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Is there a K and N filter that will fit 2010-1011 shelby because their website says they dont have one yet, but didn't know if there was another one that would work Not a K&N but I have an S&B on my '11 so there are alternatives: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackonblack Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 It is simply my belief, do you put any thing besides fuel and air in your intake. No, no one does, if oil was good for your motor to burn thru the combustion chambers we would all have a tank that needed filling on a regular basis. IMO any oil coted filters is doing just that, puts oil into the motor and not the 5w-50 that the motor does require, and I have been involved in racing for 40 years. It is not that K&N is not a good product, just not for these cars, again my opinion. I had an email exchange with the product folks at K&N, and to no surprise, they defended their product. But in reading the details in the associated links they sent, seems as though they present a rather good argument. Please see the reply below... Hello Michael, Thank you for your interest in K&N products. Unfortunately, there are still individuals that believe in the “oiled myth”. We can only educate the consumers of our product, but the ones who have made up their minds before looking at the facts are hopeless. I have included some links to our site with our testing data to prove our oil does not come off our filters and will not harm your engine if it could come off; this information is open to the public. If you have any further questions, please call our Customer Support Team at 1(800)858-3333. http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm http://www.knfilters.com/air_filter_testing.htm Thanks for writing, Product Specialist 800-858-3333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 I had an email exchange with the product folks at K&N, and to no surprise, they defended their product. But in reading the details in the associated links they sent, seems as though they present a rather good argument. Please see the reply below... Hello Michael, Thank you for your interest in K&N products. Unfortunately, there are still individuals that believe in the oiled myth. We can only educate the consumers of our product, but the ones who have made up their minds before looking at the facts are hopeless. I have included some links to our site with our testing data to prove our oil does not come off our filters and will not harm your engine if it could come off; this information is open to the public. If you have any further questions, please call our Customer Support Team at 1(800)858-3333. http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm http://www.knfilters.com/air_filter_testing.htm Thanks for writing, Product Specialist 800-858-3333 I don't have any faith in K&N. Their HP claims are VERY inflated, and they continue to say you don't need a tune for their GT500 CAI, which we all know is BS because changing the MAF size without a tune will make your motor go boom. They do make a good filter but they are also self serving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpfisterer Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 No K&N but air raid makes one. I just got mine installed. http://www.fordracingpartsdirect.com/2010_2011_SHELBY_GT500_WASHABLE_REPLACEMENT_FILTER_p/a860-399.htm I remember reading somewhere that if you change the filter a tune may be needed. Anyone know anything about this? Anyone notice a change in fuel mileage with the air raid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpfisterer Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Here is the link for the same filter as posted on the fordracing site. Its a few dollars less. http://www.airaid.com/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=860-399 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I remember reading somewhere that if you change the filter a tune may be needed. Anyone know anything about this? Anyone notice a change in fuel mileage with the air raid? The filter is not so important as the MAF. If you change the MAF to a larger size you may max out the PCM's ability to meter air and it can cause damage. A tune will compensate for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt500 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Ok I'm not trying to get in a pissing contest about air filters- just a simple question: I'd like to put the AirRaid filter and resonator delete (ordered from Ford Racing) on my 2011 GT500. Will this affect the PCM, and will a tune be needed? I'm not seeing anything about a tune associated with these parts FRPD's website, so I'm guessing the answer is no tune needed, but I'd like to check first. Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hpfisterer Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Just ordered directly from airaid. Filter and a cleaning kit came to 89.98. Shipping is free, no tax into NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torched10 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I remember reading somewhere that if you change the filter a tune may be needed. Anyone know anything about this? Anyone notice a change in fuel mileage with the air raid? the 09s were rated 500hp,and if you put the KR intake on it,you had to retune.But starting with the 2010s,they came 540 with the KR intake, so no tune required with different filter.BTW, you can just take the resonator baffle out cant you, why buy a differnt part.I have a JLY painted intake and it works great,and looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03 DSG Snake Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I had an email exchange with the product folks at K&N, and to no surprise, they defended their product. But in reading the details in the associated links they sent, seems as though they present a rather good argument. Please see the reply below... Hello Michael, Thank you for your interest in K&N products. Unfortunately, there are still individuals that believe in the “oiled myth”. We can only educate the consumers of our product, but the ones who have made up their minds before looking at the facts are hopeless. I have included some links to our site with our testing data to prove our oil does not come off our filters and will not harm your engine if it could come off; this information is open to the public. If you have any further questions, please call our Customer Support Team at 1(800)858-3333. http://www.knfilters.com/MAF/massair.htm http://www.knfilters.com/air_filter_testing.htm Thanks for writing, Product Specialist 800-858-3333 Oil does get through the filter and tends to coat the Mass Air Sensor. I've seen it first hand and I clean the Mass Air along with the filter on my Forced Induction Fords. Amsoil makes an excellent dry filter: http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eaau.aspx Amsoil EaAU6080 = K&N RF-1020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Ok I'm not trying to get in a pissing contest about air filters- just a simple question: I'd like to put the AirRaid filter and resonator delete (ordered from Ford Racing) on my 2011 GT500. Will this affect the PCM, and will a tune be needed? I'm not seeing anything about a tune associated with these parts FRPD's website, so I'm guessing the answer is no tune needed, but I'd like to check first. Thanks for the help! NO tune is needed for your application. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03 DSG Snake Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torched10 Posted October 4, 2010 Report Share Posted October 4, 2010 Oil does get through the filter and tends to coat the Mass Air Sensor. I've seen it first hand and I clean the Mass Air along with the filter on my Forced Induction Fords. Amsoil makes an excellent dry filter: http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eaau.aspx Amsoil EaAU6080 = K&N RF-1020 Me too--ive used K &N for 20 years.I had a SC Jaguar up till last fall--and was using the K&N. Had some trouble with it, not unusual for a jag I know, and the mechainc called and told me the K&N had allowed oil to get to the MAF and destrpyed it.I went and looked at it,and there was oil everywhere--so on a SC engine,i just dont see the advantages of an oiled filter--Ive read plenty of engineering studies showing for a SC engine which needs lots of air at WOT, that a paper filter works better than the oiled filters.I use K&N on my normally aspirated cars,includung my 65GTO--but i wont use an oiled filter again for SC engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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