tpenziner Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Somewhat embarrassing to the Shelby world... I would like to think it was the driver, not the Shelby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpevin Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 In drag racing if you dont 60 foot well, especially in the 1/8 mile, you arent going to do well. I should dig up the SRT4 neon beating a highly modded 03 Cobra video, that one pissed off a lot of Cobra guys for a couple years :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whammer Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 I don't put much stock in videos like this. Who knows what the 135i was running? And of course we have driver ability as a wild card. If you're interested in performance times I would say the magazine tests are probably the most reliable due to the fact that the cars are stock and they have pro drivers. Once guys start modding their cars anything could beat a car that is still stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlwnSn8k Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 The 135i is a stock twin-turbo inline-6 car, not to mention it is fairly small. To me it looks like a combination of both bad Shelby driver and a lightly modified 135i. I ran a stock 135i before in my supercharged 2005 Civic Si only making 220 whp and stayed even with him all the way. A decent driver in that Shelby would have pummeled that BMW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torched10 Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 clearly the Shelby driver wasnt very good--he lost a length in the box,id say RT of a second easy--then the shelby guy hit his brakes first--but you never know what mods a car might have--i had a mini-cooper pull up next to me on a highway when I is was doing 60 on a clear road.He was annoying me, so i went into 3rd and we both hit it--i didnt lose him till i hit 110 in 4th--who knows what the hell he was running.But i cant see a stock 135 beating a stock Shelby ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500bro Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 clearly the Shelby driver wasnt very good--he lost a length in the box,id say RT of a second easy--then the shelby guy hit his brakes first--but you never know what mods a car might have--i had a mini-cooper pull up next to me on a highway when I is was doing 60 on a clear road.He was annoying me, so i went into 3rd and we both hit it--i didnt lose him till i hit 110 in 4th--who knows what the hell he was running.But i cant see a stock 135 beating a stock Shelby ever I used to own a 335i with the same twin turbo inline 6. A quick 45 min download of Dinan software boosted the origina hp/tq rating of 300/300 to 385/425. My 335 was fast and a 135i is even lighter. Not sure how much lighter it is than our Shelby's but its probably 100-200 lbs lighter. Given our cars issue with hooking up off the line and with a good driver behind the wheel of the135i, I could see how an ugly little shit 135 could pull this off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram_g Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Weight of the 135i is 3400 lbs and the BMW site lists the 0-60 as 5.0 seconds. Given that BMW is usually conservative by 0.2 or 0.3 seconds, and noting as GT500bro stated that a straightforward tune can increase the hp/tq substantially, I can see where a lightly modded 135i might even beat a pretty good driver in a stock GT500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWG223 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 In drag racing if you dont 60 foot well, especially in the 1/8 mile, you arent going to do well. I should dig up the SRT4 neon beating a highly modded 03 Cobra video, that one pissed off a lot of Cobra guys for a couple years :D SRT=high 11 second car at around 120 with about $5500 in mods on a tire if you can drive it. Lots of those around here. WIth just a canned stage III kit you are looking at $3500 in mods (with "toys") and mid 12's@116 or so. They are no joke, even if they are a neon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT5687 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 I've been seeing and hearing A LOT about these 135s. When they first came out, I didn't know they were TT and decided to give in to one that was razzing me from light to light. I was in my 05 GT (bolts ons, NA) and he made be look like I was riding a trike. I CAN drive, but so could he and that lil thing blew my doors off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Per Car & Driver, re: a stock 135i.... Fortunately, there is no reduction in engine size or output. The 135i gets the same 300-horsepower, twin-turbocharged inline-six cylinder engine as the 335i. We clocked a 0-to-60 time of 4.9 seconds for the heavier 335i; the 135i did it in a blistering 4.7, with a 13.3-second quarter-mile at 106 mph. But...they are ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawdude Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 My tuned 335i beat stock GT500s in the 1320 on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torched10 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Ok--lets do the math--100lbs is a tenth in a 1/4, so the 135i has a 0.6 sec weight advantage.10hp is a tenth in a 1/4/The shelby has a a 240hp advanatge,which is 2.4 secs,so net 1.8sec advantage Shelby.A car length is also a tenth,so the shelby lost a tenth there--the trest is either a highly modified 135i or poor driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthracer777 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Just a personal observation.......why do guys buy these Shelbys and other hi-po cars and not know how to drag race at the 'strip? Why put themsleves thru that kind of embarrassment? Learn how to drag race properly, first (with another car), then buy the GT500, Z06, or whatever. It never ceases to amaze me............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whammer Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Just a personal observation.......why do guys buy these Shelbys and other hi-po cars and not know how to drag race at the 'strip? Why put themsleves thru that kind of embarrassment? Learn how to drag race properly, first (with another car), then buy the GT500, Z06, or whatever. It never ceases to amaze me............. Well maybe they don't treat it as seriously as some? Maybe they don't have ego problems? Perhaps they just want to go out there and LEGALLY be able to race their car and see what it and THEY can do? Maybe it was the guy's first time? Perhaps he'll get better as he learns? I have an 08 GT500 and I've never taken it to a drag strip. But if I did I'm sure as hell not going to buy a different car to practice with. I'm just going to take it and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpevin Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 SRT=high 11 second car at around 120 with about $5500 in mods on a tire if you can drive it. Lots of those around here. WIth just a canned stage III kit you are looking at $3500 in mods (with "toys") and mid 12's@116 or so. They are no joke, even if they are a neon. I Know, but the 03 Cobra had a KB blower, drag radials etc. It was simply a case of a NDF in the Cobra, the Neon ran 13s.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTrickPony Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Per Car & Driver, re: a stock 135i.... Fortunately, there is no reduction in engine size or output. The 135i gets the same 300-horsepower, twin-turbocharged inline-six cylinder engine as the 335i. We clocked a 0-to-60 time of 4.9 seconds for the heavier 335i; the 135i did it in a blistering 4.7, with a 13.3-second quarter-mile at 106 mph. But...they are ugly. The new 2010 370Z beats the 135i. The Z ran a 4.6 0-60 and out braked a twin turbo Porsche with the carbon ceramic brake pads, 60 to 0 in 101 ft. and even pulled 99g on the skid pad. The performance of some of these cars is amazing and they aren't even modded yet. They took the rev limiter off the Z and it ran 172 mph top speed stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT5687 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 ...and even pulled 99g on the skid pad. I'm sure you meant .99g, right?! Otherwise I'll have one bought by the end of the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawdude Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 The new 2010 370Z beats the 135i. The Z ran a 4.6 0-60 and out braked a twin turbo Porsche with the carbon ceramic brake pads, 60 to 0 in 101 ft. and even pulled 99g on the skid pad. The performance of some of these cars is amazing and they aren't even modded yet. They took the rev limiter off the Z and it ran 172 mph top speed stock. The "amazing" adjective might fit when they slap a couple of turbos on the Nissan. I'd have to consider one then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthracer777 Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Well maybe they don't treat it as seriously as some? Maybe they don't have ego problems? Perhaps they just want to go out there and LEGALLY be able to race their car and see what it and THEY can do? Maybe it was the guy's first time? Perhaps he'll get better as he learns? I have an 08 GT500 and I've never taken it to a drag strip. But if I did I'm sure as hell not going to buy a different car to practice with. I'm just going to take it and see how it goes. LOL...ego problem? Where did that come from? In my view, the purpose of drag racing your vehicle is to get the full potential out of it in terms of low ET & highest trap speed. Why leave anything 'on the table'? You can 'play seriously'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Top Gt Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Not sure how much lighter it is than our Shelby's but its probably 100-200 lbs lighter. It's only about 300 pounds lighter than a similar 3 series. (M3?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWG223 Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Just a personal observation.......why do guys buy these Shelbys and other hi-po cars and not know how to drag race at the 'strip? Why put themsleves thru that kind of embarrassment? Learn how to drag race properly, first (with another car), then buy the GT500, Z06, or whatever. It never ceases to amaze me............. Some people just buy the car because they enjoy the power/looks for DD or weekend fun. I love sports cars and impromptu tests of their (and my) ability, but rarely feel the need or desire to spend $20 to hammer my car down a 1/4 mile strip of pavement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT5687 Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 Some people just buy the car because they enjoy the power/looks for DD or weekend fun. I love sports cars and impromptu tests of their (and my) ability, but rarely feel the need or desire to spend $20 to hammer my car down a 1/4 mile strip of pavement. $20?! That would be nice... it's $35 here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushinator Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 My last car before my Shelby was an '09 Nissan 370Z (please don't ask why :D) . Performance wise, that car was very close to the 135i BMW. Zero to 60, quarter mile....etc. Matter of fact, there are several video tests on Youtube that show the 370Z outperforming the 135i. I can tell you first hand that there is a night and day difference between the 370Z and '11 GT500. It's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT5687 Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 My last car before my Shelby was an '09 Nissan 370Z (please don't ask why :D) . Performance wise, that car was very close to the 135i BMW. Zero to 60, quarter mile....etc. Matter of fact, there are several video tests on Youtube that show the 370Z outperforming the 135i. I can tell you first hand that there is a night and day difference between the 370Z and '11 GT500. It's not even close. Now those are the testimonials I look for... "I owned one of each and X is better." Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWG223 Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 $20?! That would be nice... it's $35 here! For me it was usually free as I knew the girls who ran the admission stand. It's not who you are or where you are, it's who you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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