SVOC Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Yes this come as alarming to you as it does me, and I should have caught this a LONG time ago. After doing some mods to up the Bunnies Thumper a bit, we discovered that the crank case was being pressurized more than usual, now since I wasn't there, I had to wait till the car got back, after doing almost $170 worth of replacing seals (parts only) I started to work on the crankcase pressurization issue. Let me just start by, everyone go outside to your Bunnies and make sure this DID NOT HAPPEN TO YOURS!!!! The PCV valve was installed backwards, which didn't relive pressure, but actually allowed it to enter, all 15lbs. as a matter of fact!!!! Note the proper installation screen short from Vortech's PDF file: Now, the improper installation from the build: Not to say your Wascally Wabbit is flawed, but to save you a headache of $170 worth of parts not including labor, I would go have a peek under the bonnet!!! Parts I have replaced because of this: Both VC gaskets Front main seal Rear main seal Oil pan gaskets The only positive thing to this is it allowed me to look at the clutch which was right on the rivets, which save the flywheel from getting scared, but that's another story! Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVOC Posted January 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Just so you basically understand, it's somewhat like a one way check valve and allows intake manifold vacuum to pull hydrocarbon vapors and crank case pressure out: What is listed as a "Back Fire" is a positive pressure, the same similar pressure that is created by "Boost" from a supercharger, when the crank case/engine is pressurized it will push oil out the seals/gaskets and into the inlet of the supercharger. It will also cause the engine to labor due to the fact it has to work harder to push the pistons down. Normally Aspirated Engine shown: If your still not sure, refer to the installation instructions page 10: http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/download.php?dir=pdf/manuals&file=4FU020-610v4.1.pdf Hope this helps. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dh777 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Thanks Jeff - I'll take a look. Can you post a pick of what it should look like when your done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVOC Posted January 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Thanks Jeff - I'll take a look. Can you post a pick of what it should look like when your done? Yes the first black and white picture is the CORRECT way it should be done, or in other words if you look at the valve, the 5/8' end or larger end should have tubing the valve cover, the smaller 3/8' end should have hose going to the intake manifold. Even though this picture shows dual vacuum tees, that end should have hose going to the intake, the lager metal end having hose to the valve cover: Your PCV valves will be plastic, but shaped similar to this one: Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
check6 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 How on Earth did they manage that! Thanks for the post Jeff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPRSNK Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 How on Earth did they manage that! Thanks for the post Jeff. Stupidity can't be ruled out. It's also impossible to know which shop did this as I blew up the engine to my Terlingua last year and replaced the engine at a local shop. This could be why it blew in the first place. We'll never know. What I do know is that crap like this is exactly why I started Ryckman Motorsports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVOC Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 How on Earth did they manage that! Thanks for the post Jeff. H.U.B.S. A common problem with people not paying attention to what they are doing, Head Up Butt Syndrome. Stupidity can't be ruled out. It's also impossible to know which shop did this as I blew up the engine to my Terlingua last year and replaced the engine at a local shop. This could be why it blew in the first place. We'll never know. What I do know is that crap like this is exactly why I started Ryckman Motorsports. I know exactly which shop did this after looking in your photobucket when you took delivery at Terlingua in 2008: Yep there it is in all it's glory, there is a possibility, pending on the Diablo tune, that yes, oil in the combustion chamber will cause preignition detonation and take out the head gaskets or pistons, but till the long block that was relived of it's duties in the garage it taken apart there is no telling what happened. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dh777 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 If your still not sure, refer to the installation instructions page 10: http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/download.php?dir=pdf/manuals&file=4FU020-610v4.1.pdf Hope this helps. Jeff Actually step 10 on page 28. Thanks Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVOC Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Actually step 10 on page 28. Thanks Jeff Ooooops, looks like I got some H.U.B.S. Thanx DeWayne Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPRSNK Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I know exactly which shop did this after looking in your photobucket when you took delivery at Terlingua in 2008: Yep there it is in all it's glory, there is a possibility, pending on the Diablo tune, that yes, oil in the combustion chamber will cause preignition detonation and take out the head gaskets or pistons, but till the long block that was relived of it's duties in the garage it taken apart there is no telling what happened. I was trying to be nice, but yep. Add that to the list of missing parts and general screw ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Yup, I just checked the pictures I took at Terlingua 2008, and there is no question.... Man, I thought forgetting to install the iridium sparkplugs was bad on the supersnakes...but this....I dont know squat, but know how to install a one way valve.... No need to bad mouth....but its obvious why my car is being done in Vegas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVOC Posted January 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Just got a call, and walked a fellow Bunny owner through the task of correcting this issue on another car. Feel free to call if your not sure. Non Boosted Bunnies need not apply BTW. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVOC Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Even the new issue of 5.0 Mustang and Super Fords shows the correct installation of the PCV valve on page 50 How coincidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dh777 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Even the new issue of 5.0 Mustang and Super Fords shows the correct installation of the PCV valve on page 50 How coincidental. This is how mine was installed. Is that right Jeff? or am I backwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Looks right DeWayne...guess its good not to be the first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVOC Posted February 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 This is how mine was installed. Is that right Jeff? or am I backwards? Like Warren said, your has been installed correctly Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPRSNK Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 The one who needs to question the install is Vorpal considering our cars were built at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I smell litigation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVOC Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 The one who needs to question the install is Vorpal considering our cars were built at the same time. I have him taken care of, the other two in question now is Jim and Rick, and all the rest on the Boosted Bunnies. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dh777 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I have him taken care of, the other two in question now is Jim and Rick, and all the rest on the Boosted Bunnies. Jeff Jim's was in Dallas when I went by there last Thursday, It might be awhile before Rick gets to check his out since he is in the Great White North right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
check6 Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I smell litigation.... lol I think you might have something there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchBunny Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Here is a photo of mine. It seems that 2008 is different of a 2007. Is this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchBunny Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 It seems that according to the install instructions on page 28 Tasca didn't do anything on my car. No PVC? What is the risk? Now I have a Paxton SC in stead of a Vortech. Is there a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRT 0403 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 I have him taken care of, the other two in question now is Jim and Rick, and all the rest on the Boosted Bunnies. Jeff I get back to Houston on the 11th so I'll be checking before I drive her again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRT 0404 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I have him taken care of, the other two in question now is Jim and Rick, and all the rest on the Boosted Bunnies. Jeff Jeff, Will be checking mine tomorrow before tracking this week-end at Motorsports Ranch. Will let you guys know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRT 0404 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Jeff, Will be checking mine tomorrow before tracking this week-end at Motorsports Ranch. Will let you guys know. All is good....valve in line correctly.......Triple B ran flawlessly on the track.....next up is Harris Hill compliments of Rychman Motorsportscar first week-end in March. BTW, visiting fellow bunny owner Rick in Calgary this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dh777 Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 All is good....valve in line correctly.......Triple B ran flawlessly on the track.....next up is Harris Hill compliments of Rychman Motorsportscar first week-end in March. BTW, visiting fellow bunny owner Rick in Calgary this week. Stay warm Jim! It's a little colder there than it is in Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorpalBunny Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 All is good....valve in line correctly.......Triple B ran flawlessly on the track.....next up is Harris Hill compliments of Rychman Motorsportscar first week-end in March. BTW, visiting fellow bunny owner Rick in Calgary this week. Jim, Please tell Rick heh and heh to you as well! Plan for cooooooold weather... and have fun! VB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPRSNK Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Here is a photo of mine. It seems that 2008 is different of a 2007. Is this right? Doesn't look like it was even installed on your car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPRSNK Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Umm...That is the stock setup. Here's a picture of my engine bay before mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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