shelbymotorsports Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Do they think we are really that stupid or do they honestly believe what they were told when they got suckered? Hey at least the seller makes one honest statement: You won’t see another one like this! Steve One Of None Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumball63146 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 They hope someone is dumb- thats why they didn't advertise it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCobra666 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Do they think we are really that stupid or do they honestly believe what they were told when they got suckered? Hey at least the seller makes one honest statement: You won’t see another one like this! Steve One Of None Steve, did Ford ever make a turbo version of the Cobra II? Its an interesting car. Call me crazy but I kinda like it. Too bad its a fugazi it would be pretty cool if it was real! What was Mr. Shelby doing in the late seventies, did he ever do any consumer cars after the 60's before his work with Chrysler in the 80's? KC666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbymotorsports Posted August 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Steve, did Ford ever make a turbo version of the Cobra II? Its an interesting car. Call me crazy but I kinda like it. Too bad its a fugazi it would be pretty cool if it was real! What was Mr. Shelby doing in the late seventies, did he ever do any consumer cars after the 60's before his work with Chrysler in the 80's? KC666 The funny part is that one could come up with a story that would sound legit as in the late 70's Shelby was a partner in a turbocharger company. And let me add I like the Mustang II cars. Owned two of them and never heard one thing about a factory turbo prototype from Shelby or Ford. My opinion is based on the following and in no particular order: Shelby was no longer under contract with Ford at the time. Although Shelby did promote the Ford Corporation for free numerous times during that time period. A turbocharger set-up like this would in no way pass EPA tests nor could it survive the warranty period. Auto manufacturers were doing everything they could to keep their current drivetrains in production back in 1977-78. Horsepower and CID were still on the decline. Remember this time period was just before we got 255cid V8 Mustangs and 305cid V8 Corvettes. Anyone that knows Shelby knows that a Shelby Mustang will have the name Shelby all over it. All I see is a bunch of Tony Branda Cobra emblems. If you look at the "Turbo" script applied to the dash you'll quickly see that is from a newer car. If Ford and Shelby were going to build a prototype turbocharged 302 Mustang it would be for performance, correct? So why would they use a heavier T-top car with lots of chassis flex? Why would they use an a/c equipped car but then not only remove the under hood a/c components but also remove the HVAC controls from inside the car? NO a/c, NO heater and NO vent. The overall hokiness from the poorly shaped hood scoop, to the Limited Edition door handle decals, to the overuse of Tony Branda emblems. I just re-read the auction description. At first I thought he was saying this was a prototype but now after a second read it appears he is saying this was an official Ford-Shelby product but only two of them were ordered/built. He would have been better off with a prototype story. Funny thing is that someone did have a some what rare car to start with. The t-top option arrived late in the 1977 model year and was not cheap hence low t-top production for 1977. Then when you add in the car being a Cobra II model with a manual transmission combined with the black/gold paint scheme production numbers are even smaller. Maybe I should grab this rare Mustang and tow it to car shows with my 1979 Shelby Ranchero. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken07gt500 Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Just on an observent note, it is a old woman and man taking the pics as seen in the reflection, maybe they got taken... Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Trying to find a nice Mustang II is getting pretty difficult. I would like to have that car and yank all the fake Sheby stuff off of it and then have a pretty darn nice Mustang II. That is a pretty rare one with the options it has. Black and gold to! Ha. ha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth0007 Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 This type of listing is what makes cruising Ebay fun. It makes us do our homework on cars and learn what is and isn't real. I've laughed at some listings, did my homework, and found out a seller was actually correct in many cases. But when it comes to anything Shelby, extra caution is necessary. My favorite bogus descriptive word you see on Ebay is "tribute" when attached to a fake, counterfeit, cloned Shelby product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SicShelby Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 This is very good information. Not that I would have bought the car, but I DEFINITELY would not have known the difference. Thanks for your wisdom, Steve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc scott Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 The cobras on the car are factory,Ford bought the rights to the name and emblems,unfortunately,my x-wife had one when we married.the steering wheel emblem looks like a 68 gas cap emblem the limited edition door handle badges were J C Whitney issue. Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VNMOUS1 Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 The cobras on the car are factory,Ford bought the rights to the name and emblems,unfortunately,my x-wife had one when we married.the steering wheel emblem looks like a 68 gas cap emblemthe limited edition door handle badges were J C Whitney issue. Doc The door handle badges look like something from a Chrysler Cordoba. bj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSNAKE Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 The door handle badges look like something from a Chrysler Cordoba. bj Yes, they were called "Corinthian door handles" (ask Ricardo Montalban he'll tell ya). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewheelman Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Unfortunately, many people pass along as fact some of the b.s. they've been told (or bought) without further investigation or research....hence Urban Legends. Did I ever tell you about the one-off Opel Kadett Carroll Shelby did in the 70's....yeah, a friend of my brother's cousin's wife's sister had one and it was........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_GT350 Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Unfortunately, many people pass along as fact some of the b.s. they've been told ........ Where do ya think I got my log in from...... the salesman that sold me my 2007 Shelby GT 350, er.. ah.. I mean Shelby GT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hispony Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 It's a rare Hertz Mustang II ! ! ! The gold stripes are a giveaway. I had someone recently tell me they had a '74 Mustang II GT convertble. They might be interested in this car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_quik_pony Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 It's really a super-clean Cobra II, just too bad it has been "modified" like it has. Having grown up in a '77 Cobra II, which my parents bought brand new, I've always had a soft spot for these cars. We had a white/blue non t-top, 302, four-speed with a white interior...supposedly seven made in that combination. I still have the original wheels out in the garage! What struck me as odd with this car, is that it has the Cobra II door emblems from a '76, as they went to snakes in '77. I also don't remember seeing any '77s with t-tops, but several '78s with t-tops and those gawd-awful huge COBRA decals running down the doors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herpony68 Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Well, it is obviously not a "shelby" but it is still nice as a mustang II. And hispony, as an owner of two, I would think you would appreciate it just as the II it is! It is hard to fix them, this one looks pretty nice, and not a bad price either! With the gold stripes it would match my two real hertz's! LOL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbymotorsports Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 It's really a super-clean Cobra II, just too bad it has been "modified" like it has. Having grown up in a '77 Cobra II, which my parents bought brand new, I've always had a soft spot for these cars. We had a white/blue non t-top, 302, four-speed with a white interior...supposedly seven made in that combination. I still have the original wheels out in the garage! What struck me as odd with this car, is that it has the Cobra II door emblems from a '76, as they went to snakes in '77. I also don't remember seeing any '77s with t-tops, but several '78s with t-tops and those gawd-awful huge COBRA decals running down the doors! Don't think I've ever seen a white/white combo so I'd say it was pretty rare. The t-tops were a late 1977 option so not many cars got them. I had a 1977 Mach 1 with the 302 and the C-4 automatic. It's been so long I can't recall but I think the 302/4spd combo was not allowed in California. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormeaston Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Do they think we are really that stupid?, no not us but some guy just gett'n into cars might just bite on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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