pawn65 Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Shinoda owning SHINODA BOSS is like any other company owning <ANYTHING> BOSS. Ford worked out an arrangement with Shinoda to make sure their SHINODA BOSS does not violate Ford's IP rights. That's why it's called a SHINODA BOSS and not a FORD BOSS 302 (or whatever) Mustang. There is absolutely *zero* Ford authenticity in a SHINODA BOSS. That said, if Roush wanted to do a ROUSH BOSS mustang, they would need to get permission from both Ford and Shinoda because it is a car and would potentially infringe on Ford's BOSS 302/351/429 Mustang trademarks and on the SHINODA BOSS trademark (i.e. BOSS in the context of a car). See contradictory in some of your statement but i like to agree to disagree with you without personal attacks. And as you can see from what i took from your statement it does hold higher regard than a PJ Saleen. And by the way have you ever seen a Shinoda Boss with the hockey stripe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 See contradictory in some of your statement but i like to agree to disagree with you without personal attacks. And as you can see from what i took from your statement it does hold higher regard than a PJ Saleen. And by the way have you ever seen a Shinoda Boss with the hockey stripe? I have no idea what you mean by that. I have no idea what contradiction you mean. I have no idea what you just said. In no way did I say or imply that a Shinoda holds higher or lower regard that a PJ Saleen. Yes, I've seen the Shinoda Boss. It's a nice design! ...too bad it's aftermarket and not the real deal from Ford -- yet. Too bad it doesn't undergo rigorous days-on-end testing on a Superflow 901 running continuously flat out varying only between max HP and max torque -- for days on end! Too bad it's not engineered to pass such a 150K test. Too bad it's not ...a Ford factory product. Then again, maybe such offerings could never pass such testing (ya think?). That's why I like factory. Everyone is different. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 See contradictory in some of your statement but i like to agree to disagree with you without personal attacks. And as you can see from what i took from your statement it does hold higher regard than a PJ Saleen. And by the way have you ever seen a Shinoda Boss with the hockey stripe? You're picking on the wrong guy, my friend! Trust me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 You're picking on the wrong guy, my friend! Trust me! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 +1 i like the shinodo....but im with dan here...i will only buy factory..i dont trust aftermarket nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Dan who? <lol> Actually, I think he mentioned earlier or in another thread (when the Shinoda announcement/hero-card links were posted) that he is or works with some Ford dealer that will sell the Shinodas so I understand his interest in and enthusiasm for them. I just don't understand what his post above says. I can't even parse it to comprehend it's word-meaning I also don't see how anyone can perceive a Shinoda Boss to somehow be a genuine Boss Mustang when it's only connection to Ford is that the company's deceased namesake, Larry Shinoda, was a hired pen decades ago who created some graphics and coined the name Boss 302 for Ford (which was, and still is, Ford intellectual property). Somehow I just don't get the notion that one iota worth of Ford factory provenance can ever flow from the simple good-business practice that when Ford re-registered the BOSS 302 (and related) trademarks they agreed that SHINODA BOSS doesn't infringe on Ford trademarks and vice versa. Somehow it appears that this dealer (who's mane escapes me now) and/or Shinoda think or choose to portray the Shinoda Boss to somehow be a FoMoCo-blessed offering (the announcement misleadingly implies it was developed jointly, etc.) with FoMoCo lineage and somehow heir-apparent to the Ford Boss mustangs of yore -- patently absurd slight-of-hand marketeering, imho. That's why I forwarded the announcement materials directly to Ford management since I know not whether this is of Shinoda's doing or this Ford dealer's gameplay or some third party mischief. Actually, I think this is one of those cases where just discussing the subject gives it more credence than it could otherwise muster but I have to admit it gauls me when a company seemingly tries to leach off the good name or intellectual assets of another. It's the same core problem I had with the SA-AC folks -- thankfully, that's water over the dam now. Hopefully this will be too. Well, gotta run ...there's a little two year old pushing keys here and: Grandpa I need to go in the pool ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1970boss302 Posted September 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 With the financial news bad for Ford and others maybe we should wait till 2011 to see what happens with the Boss program? Now is the time for us to write our Senators and Congressmen and tell them to get off their asses and straighten out the financial and energy mess or we won't have a future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970boss302 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 The Next Mustang Boss we may see is Christ riding in at the seventh trumpet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I think the big bargain and 'sleeper' next year will be the 400HP 5.0 Coyote M-GT -- with 2-3 better mpg to boot! I think Ford will sell a lot of those! I would not be surprised if they approach 40-50% of total mustang production. It's a volume production engine (not a niche-line hand-built jewel) but at 3500lbs will prolly whip the porky Camaro and Chally ...and for a lot less dough too. Still, I'd like the seventh-trumpet version ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangFanatic Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I think the big bargain and 'sleeper' next year will be the 400HP 5.0 Coyote M-GT -- with 2-3 better mpg to boot! I think Ford will sell a lot of those! I would not be surprised if they approach 40-50% of total mustang production. It's a volume production engine (not a niche-line hand-built jewel) but at 3500lbs will prolly whip the porky Camaro and Chally ...and for a lot less dough too. Still, I'd like the seventh-trumpet version ;-) +1 :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Mustang Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 The new Heritage Saleen looks like the Boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970boss302 Posted November 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 The new Heritage Saleen looks like the Boss. With elections over and the NEW 2010 MUSTANG waiting to be unleashed let us all look foward to good times and a new BOSS MUSTANG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 With elections over and the NEW 2010 MUSTANG waiting to be unleashed let us all look foward to good times and a new BOSS MUSTANG. +1,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970boss302 Posted November 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 +1,000 THANK YOU TO ALL THE VETERANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Is there any concrete evidence yet of a new Boss coming? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Is there any concrete evidence yet of a new Boss coming? Mike I think it's been shelved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Well, that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of GT Posted November 14, 2008 Report Share Posted November 14, 2008 Nope, unless something radical happens to FoMoCo in the next few months, the 2010/2011 Boss is still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangFanatic Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Nope, unless something radical happens to FoMoCo in the next few months, the 2010/2011 Boss is still alive. Hope you are right - do you have evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hope you are right - do you have evidence? Even a distinct Coyote howl would help ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of GT Posted November 15, 2008 Report Share Posted November 15, 2008 Hope you are right - do you have evidence? Only the word from a person that is highly connected with all future Mustang projects. I specifically asked about the Boss program and the rumor of it's demise, and I was told that the rumor was false. Was I given accurate information? All I can say is that under the circumstances of the conversation with this person, and considering their position within FoMoCo, false or incorrect information would only come back to embarass them later, so I am taking their word that the information is truthful and accurate. I can also tell you that this person has never given me inaccurate information in the past, so I trust that this time the information is also accurate. Yes, yes, I know that there are many, many, people that pop up on these sites and say that "I heard this, and I heard that from my sources" and so on and so fourth, and I wish that I could share the exact circumstances of how, when, and where I was told this information, but I can't, and all anyone can really do is just sit back and wait to see if what I was told is/was the truth. I will have another opportunity to have a conversation with this person again in the next few days, so I will re-address this topic with them at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1970boss302 Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Well as Tony the Tiger said "" THAT's GREAT "" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted November 18, 2008 Report Share Posted November 18, 2008 I've gotten conflicting info from two different sources over the past two months. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangFanatic Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Thanks Son of GT, just keep us informed. By the way, the '10 Stang is sweet! :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1970boss302 Posted November 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Thanks Son of GT, just keep us informed. By the way, the '10 Stang is sweet! :happy feet: What will Ford be bring out at the North American INternational Auto Show Mark Fields said They will reviel another chapter in the Mustang Story??? Anyone have any ideas what this is ?? 1. A new 350 Shelby 2. What we all want a new BOSS What are your thoughts ???? Let all Give thanks This Thanksgiving For this Great God Blessed Nation God Bless America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I have no clue on that. But I did notice that in spite of the NYIAS being in March for several years now, it will be April 12-19 this time. Coincidence? ...or is Ford planning a big celebration fo the 45th anniversary of the mustang on Friday April 17, 2009? Ford is such a wonderful creature of tradition ...I can't imagine that special date not having a special reveal. Happy Thanksgiving to all! Despite life's ups and downs were are all truly blessed in this great country. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangFanatic Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I have no clue on that. But I did notice that in spite of the NYIAS being in March for several years now, it will be April 12-19 this time. Coincidence? ...or is Ford planning a big celebration fo the 45th anniversary of the mustang on Friday April 17, 2009? Ford is such a wonderful creature of tradition ...I can't imagine that special date not having a special reveal. Happy Thanksgiving to all! Despite life's ups and downs were are all truly blessed in this great country. Dan Definitely hoping for a "special" reveal at the NYIAS Amen Dan, we are truly blessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2008GT500KR Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 HINT: 1970, Grabber Blue Boss 302, now they come out with Grabber Blue for upcoming 2010 model.... figure it out from there Some neat engine packages will be in mustang soon too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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