kahmann Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I pulled the trigger on a satin Paxton Novi 1200 today. I'll use this thread to document the install, once the system kit arrives. This kit includes 38 lb. injectors, a Walbro 255lph fuel pump, bypass valve, filter/ducting, necessary brackets/hardware, a DiabloSport Predator handheld programmer, and the Novi itself. The DiabloSport will be for sale the moment it arrives, as I already have an SCT Livewire. If anyone needs a tuner, send me a PM. Anyway, I'm really excited to finally have gotten the nerve to buy the blower that I've wanted for a long time! I can't wait to get started on the install. It ought to arrive by Wednesday of next week. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dans07SGT Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 That's awesome! Congrats! That's the one I'm interested in for my car. Do you have more details or a link where I could read up on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 That's awesome! Congrats!That's the one I'm interested in for my car. Do you have more details or a link where I could read up on it? Thanks a lot man! Here are a few decent links with some good info: http://www.superchargersonline.com/product...mber=PAX1001851 http://www.paxtonauto.com/product.php?id=103 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/PAX-1001853/ Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Very cool Ken I got an estimate for a Paxton 2200 install. Includes 2200 sl, FRPP gt 500 fuel pump, FRPP 39 lb injectors, SCT XF3 flash tuner. I may go this rout as I do not want to lose the strut brace or hack up the CS6 GTH hood. I really wish SAI could do this as I want an SAI install. But I will give it a little time and see what happens. Good luck and I will monitor your install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 CONGRATS !! :happy feet: Are you going to use the pulley that came with it ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORSBYT Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I pulled the trigger on a satin Paxton Novi 1200 today. I'll use this thread to document the install, once the system kit arrives. This kit includes 38 lb. injectors, a Walbro 255lph fuel pump, bypass valve, filter/ducting, necessary brackets/hardware, a DiabloSport Predator handheld programmer, and the Novi itself.The DiabloSport will be for sale the moment it arrives, as I already have an SCT Livewire. If anyone needs a tuner, send me a PM. Anyway, I'm really excited to finally have gotten the nerve to buy the blower that I've wanted for a long time! I can't wait to get started on the install. It ought to arrive by Wednesday of next week. Ken What a way to celebrate the birth of the good ol' USA - Buy your Shelby a Supercharger!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudaFly Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hey Ken - looks like a nice compliment for the other mods you have installed and a great power adder for a road racing application. Two things that I would recommend are: 1.) Relocate the Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor to give you an accurate reading of the air temp going into the manifold AFTER getting heated up by the SC head unit. This will allow you to get a better and safer tune. Also will be important if you add an intercooler at a later date. It's a really easy install and less than $50. http://www.brenspeed.com/breniatrelocation.html 2.) I'm sure you are not in the mood to spend any more money but you should really consider going with the Ford Racing Dual Fuel Pump. The Walbro pump by itself is fine but piggy-backing and splicing it into the stock Mustang GT pump is a less than ideal setup. The FRPP pump includes the factory wire harness and also adds a 2nd Fuel Pump Driver Module (FPDM). You could sell the Walbro pump kit on E-Bay to offset the cost of the FRPP pump. http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9639 Good Luck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordRocks1 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 SAWEEEETTT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1218shelby Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 congrats... welcome to the club.. youre gonna love it.. i love mine. here is a video of a drive by of a shelby.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Rodgers Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Welcome to the Supercharged Side, it is a totally different car. I love it both ways, but Supercharged feels like a different car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 B) That's gonna be cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Thanks a lot fellas! My anticipation is getting worse by the hour! I appreciate all of the input and suggestions. I will most definitely take all of it into consideration. I especially like that IAT sensor relocation kit. I just got the FRPP zero degree plugs on order and am looking at different injectors and pumps. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 ................. 1.) Relocate the Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor to give you an accurate reading of the air temp going into the manifold AFTER getting heated up by the SC head unit. This will allow you to get a better and safer tune. Also will be important if you add an intercooler at a later date. It's a really easy install and less than $50. http://www.brenspeed.com/breniatrelocation.html 2.) I'm sure you are not in the mood to spend any more money but you should really consider going with the Ford Racing Dual Fuel Pump. The Walbro pump by itself is fine but piggy-backing and splicing it into the stock Mustang GT pump is a less than ideal setup. The FRPP pump includes the factory wire harness and also adds a 2nd Fuel Pump Driver Module (FPDM). You could sell the Walbro pump kit on E-Bay to offset the cost of the FRPP pump. http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9639 Good Luck... About #1 comment above: I went ahead and ordered it ! Thanks for the advice....if you don't mind me piggybacking on Ken's thread About #2 comment: OK, now you've got me thinking before I install my Novi.....what do you think about this fuel pump system? Will it be overkill for my setup? http://www.lethalperformance.com/07-09-she...uel-hat-p-17458 Will a simple swap of the GT-500 pump (shown below) into the existing package in the SGT work instead of buying the whole GT-500 kit? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-FORD-M...sQ5fAccessories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 My understanding is that we need an entire system: http://www.lethalperformance.com/05-09-mus...ade-kit-p-28508 Either one like this in the link above or you'll need a hat, pump, and extra wiring harness. All that will run you about $1k if you don't use the Walbro pump. It makes more sense to just buy the full setup for $750 and sell the Walbro, like Cuda suggested. Good luck! Ken EDIT: How long did it take JEGS to get you your Novi?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 CONGRATS !! :happy feet: Are you going to use the pulley that came with it ?? I'm definitely planning on using the stock pulley to start out with. Given the power level that this engine is already at, I don't want to get too carried away right off the bat! My tuner told me that if anything he'd recommend a bigger pulley to help de-tune the thing. I told him that I didn't think that would be necessary. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hey Ken - looks like a nice compliment for the other mods you have installed and a great power adder for a road racing application. Two things that I would recommend are: 1.) Relocate the Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor to give you an accurate reading of the air temp going into the manifold AFTER getting heated up by the SC head unit. This will allow you to get a better and safer tune. Also will be important if you add an intercooler at a later date. It's a really easy install and less than $50. http://www.brenspeed.com/breniatrelocation.html 2.) I'm sure you are not in the mood to spend any more money but you should really consider going with the Ford Racing Dual Fuel Pump. The Walbro pump by itself is fine but piggy-backing and splicing it into the stock Mustang GT pump is a less than ideal setup. The FRPP pump includes the factory wire harness and also adds a 2nd Fuel Pump Driver Module (FPDM). You could sell the Walbro pump kit on E-Bay to offset the cost of the FRPP pump. http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_...rtKeyField=9639 Good Luck... Where did you relocate the PS fluid reservoir to? Is it necessary to use that black coolant reservoir or is using the OEM tank an option? When I decide to add an intercooler, will any aftermarket unit plug & play or will I need to purchase some sort of fit-kit from Paxton first? As for the IAT sensor kit, did you have to tap the port illustrated in that photo or was that port already there? With the non-IC kit, will there be a port post-SC already tapped or will I need to add one? If it's not there, is this the only location to relocate the sensor to? The reason I ask is that the Brenspeed description says that instructions on how to add the sensor directly to the intake manifold are included. Thanks for any further input you can lend. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewnagle1964 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Ken Congratulations ! You are gonna love it and the pure excitement that your right foot will bring to your adrenal gland. Have a great 4th of July Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Ken Congratulations ! You are gonna love it and the pure excitement that your right foot will bring to your adrenal gland. Have a great 4th of July Andrew Thanks a lot Andrew! I can't wait to get this thing in and done! Have a great 4th yourself. Ken p.s. Just ordered the IAT relocation kit from Brenspeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcarl1 Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Ken have you look at the ford GT fuel pump? l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Ken have you look at the ford GT fuel pump? l Yeah Carl I'm considering that one along with the Fore system that Lethal sells. http://www.lethalperformance.com/05-09-mus...-system-p-13418 Wasn't the original Paxton fuel pump setup the reason your engine grenaded at the track?? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcarl1 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Ken the Ford GT fuel pump is about $200 more than the GT500 fuel pump and it didn't't come with the wiring harness. Yes the paxton fuel pump is a Peace of crap if you are going to track your SGT. on the track with the gas going back and forth against the gas line it will break off the plastic tips the gas line hooks up to. cost me about $18,000 so the GT fuel pump was expensive but good insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Ken the Ford GT fuel pump is about $200 more than the GT500 fuel pump and it didn't't come with the wiring harness. Yes the paxton fuel pump is a Peace of crap if you are going to track your SGT. on the track with the gas going back and forth against the gas line it will break off the plastic tips the gas line hooks up to. cost me about $18,000 so the GT fuel pump was expensive but good insurance. I thought the Ford GT and the GT500 used the same pump setup? So if not, where can I find the Ford GT setup? Thanks for the help Carl! Ken p.s. I had to work today and will work again tomorrow, but I'm going to try to make the Mini-Nats on Sunday. When are you headed up man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500-07 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 hard to beat the GT500 system http://www.evoperform.com/shop/index.php?m...;products_id=93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudaFly Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 About #2 comment: OK, now you've got me thinking before I install my Novi.....what do you think about this fuel pump system? Will it be overkill for my setup? http://www.lethalperformance.com/07-09-she...uel-hat-p-17458 Yes I think that would be overkill. Nice setup but the FRPP pump is exactly the same as the factory GT-500 pump and it is a plug and play solution. Will a simple swap of the GT-500 pump (shown below) into the existing package in the SGT work instead of buying the whole GT-500 kit? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-FORD-M...sQ5fAccessories No, that will definitely not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rush_junky Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Hey Ken - looks like a nice compliment for the other mods you have installed and a great power adder for a road racing application. Two things that I would recommend are: 1.) Relocate the Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor to give you an accurate reading of the air temp going into the manifold AFTER getting heated up by the SC head unit. This will allow you to get a better and safer tune. Also will be important if you add an intercooler at a later date. It's a really easy install and less than $50. 2.) I'm sure you are not in the mood to spend any more money but you should really consider going with the Ford Racing Dual Fuel Pump. The Walbro pump by itself is fine but piggy-backing and splicing it into the stock Mustang GT pump is a less than ideal setup. The FRPP pump includes the factory wire harness and also adds a 2nd Fuel Pump Driver Module (FPDM). You could sell the Walbro pump kit on E-Bay to offset the cost of the FRPP pump. About #1 comment above: I went ahead and ordered it ! Thanks for the advice....if you don't mind me piggybacking on Ken's thread About #2 comment: OK, now you've got me thinking before I install my Novi.....what do you think about this fuel pump system? Will it be overkill for my setup? http://www.lethalperformance.com/07-09-she...uel-hat-p-17458 Will a simple swap of the GT-500 pump (shown below) into the existing package in the SGT work instead of buying the whole GT-500 kit? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-FORD-M...sQ5fAccessories About Cuda's suggestions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CudaFly Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Where did you relocate the PS fluid reservoir to? Here are the directions for the install. The relocation of the Power Steering reservoir is right next to the Windshield Washer reservoir (page 27). http://www.paxtonauto.com/download.php?dir...4809654v4.1.pdf Is it necessary to use that black coolant reservoir or is using the OEM tank an option? The OEM tank would be difficult to relocate, not a lot of space, but maybe possible. I'm looking for an alternate solution for the black plastic radiator coolant reservoir also so if you or anybody else finds something that works then please post. When I decide to add an intercooler, will any aftermarket unit plug & play or will I need to purchase some sort of fit-kit from Paxton first? The air/water charge cooler and heat exchanger that came with the original SAI Paxton high output (H.O.) kit is a unique setup. I have not seen it offered anywhere else. It's actually a Vortech part number. I think if you look at the Maxflow Power Cooler system that Vortech sells for the 2007 Mustang GT it might be the same thing. Not cheap, about $2K. http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=19 I replaced the Paxton heat exchanger (and radiator) with the Revan Racing version. I also replaced the Paxton intercooler reservoir with the Moroso tank. I think you will find that once you start racing your car in warm weather with the SC installed heat will be working against you. You might as well start saving your pennies because you will probably be craving these mods next. In fact if $'s are not an issue I would just go ahead and go with an intercooled system now because you'll save yourself a lot of time by doing it with the SC install. http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php...st&p=700211 http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php...st&p=625993 So yes you can go aftermarket and put your own intercooler system together but it's not exactly "plug and play". As for the IAT sensor kit, did you have to tap the port illustrated in that photo or was that port already there? With the non-IC kit, will there be a port post-SC already tapped or will I need to add one? If it's not there, is this the only location to relocate the sensor to? The reason I ask is that the Brenspeed description says that instructions on how to add the sensor directly to the intake manifold are included. Yes I drilled and tapped NPT threads into the the charge core cooler to install the IAT sensor instead of the intake manifold. It could go into the intake manifold also but it is a plastic part and I felt better about attaching it in front of the throttle body. The Paxton kit install is not for the faint of heart, lots of customization work to get it the way I wanted it, but in the end I've had great results and I'm glad I did it. If anyone is looking for a true plug and play system to install it's pretty hard to beat the Whipple 550 HP kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 Thanks a lot for all of the info man, it's really helpful to know what to expect before I get my hands dirty. I'll let you know if I can come up with anything for the coolant reservoir. If nothing, then I guess the Moroso tank will be for sale too. <_< I definitely hear what you're saying with the IC, especially on track days. The reason I went with the 1200 non-IC right now was because of the ridiculously good deal that JEGS has on it ($3100 compared to $4k+ everywhere else). I purchased it with the understanding that I'd need the IC at some point though, probably sooner rather than later. Once the Shelby heat ex and radiator are released for the 3V, I'll upgrade the whole deal. I just hope it's this year. Anyway, thanks again for your help! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I second the comment about using the Ford GT pump. It is the one that I would use. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I second the comment about using the Ford GT pump. It is the one that I would use. Chris What's the difference? Where do you find it? Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kahmann Posted July 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 hard to beat the GT500 system http://www.evoperform.com/shop/index.php?m...;products_id=93 Well I decided on the GT500 pumps. The reviews seem to be very good and I didn't really want to spend another few hundred on something else. My wallet is already burning after the last couple of days. I got the kit from Summit since it's $50 cheaper than Lethal and will deliver by Tuesday at a ground rate (shipping from Sparks, NV). http://summitracing.com/parts/FMS-M-9407-GT05/ Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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