ilmor Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I can't believe that TOTUS is actually trying to negotiate with a terrorist nation that has admittedly made it their goal to destroy Israel.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100da...oks-engagement/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 im gonna bite my tounge at the moment........................ Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormeaston Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 That's the "CHANGE" that all those idiots voted for, trying to parley with terrorist will only encourage them because in there eyes it shows weakness(that's how stupid they are). That's why Sadam snub his nose at us on the nukes issue because he knew or thought he knew that we wouldn't do anything because the presidents in the past would only take it so far. This is a big mistake.................and we will pay for it in american lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airforcevm Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 I don't see why we need to talk to Iran. They are the ones that are supplying the weapons are training to the guys in Iraq that are killing us out there. I think the only thing we should say to Iran is F-You as we nuke them. Be done with the Middle East and bring my Brothers in Arms home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Obama's teleprompter (TOTUS) really needs to stop talking to Iran. In the Islamic world, coming to the negotiating table means that you are surrendering to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOWN Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 I heard something to day that they wanted Obama to denounce Israel and something else. Before they would think that Obama was being truthful about what he was saying on there Tvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Obama needs to wise up...but I don't think he's capable.... http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-03...tm?csp=netvibes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Handler Posted March 21, 2009 Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 I can't believe that TOTUS is actually trying to negotiate with a terrorist nation that has admittedly made it their goal to destroy Israel.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100da...oks-engagement/ Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Sun-tzu Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhawkpilot Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Sun-tzu Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC) He was a smart dude, but I don't think he had deal with this particular brand of cowardly, cutt-throat oxygen-thieving-slime that we are fighting today (including Iran) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtkeith Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 He was a smart dude, but I don't think he had deal with this particular brand of cowardly, cutt-throat oxygen-thieving-slime that we are fighting today (including Iran) I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Handler Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 He was a smart dude, but I don't think he had deal with this particular brand of cowardly, cutt-throat oxygen-thieving-slime that we are fighting today (including Iran) Cowardly cut-throat oxygen-thieving-slime didn't just start. Its been going on since the beginning of human society. Its nothing new, it just needs to be dealt with correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Sun-tzu Chinese general & military strategist (~400 BC) I doubt that Mr. tzu meant it in the literal sense; I would say that he meant - to the best of your ability, be aware of your enemies and know what you're enemies are doing and what they're up to. It doesn't mean that you can or should be buddy-buddy with them, especially if they support homocide bombers and the death of all who won't convert to Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Handler Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I doubt that Mr. tzu meant it in the literal sense; I would say that he meant - to the best of your ability, be aware of your enemies and know what you're enemies are doing and what they're up to. It doesn't mean that you can or should be buddy-buddy with them, especially if they support homocide bombers and the death of all who won't convert to Muslim. I think you miss the point of keeping your enemies close. It doesn't mean you literally kiss their or give them everything they ask for. You keep them close enough that you know what they are doing, what they want to do, what they are willing to sacrifice, and what they are not willing to sacrifice. So if they are willing to sacrifice everything but Ayatollah Ali Khamenei then you go ahead and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei . It is a concept of intelligence, know what your enemy is doing at all times and what he is not willing to sacrifice. If you don't have that intelligence, you are just guessing and maybe you get it right and maybe you don't. In the meantime a lot of people will suffer. North Korea is a good example, who knows want going on there. Why? We don't have good human intelligence on the ground there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted March 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I think you miss the point of keeping your enemies close. It doesn't mean you literally kiss their or give them everything they as for. You keep them close enough that you know what they are doing, what they what to do, what they are willing to sacrifice, and what they are not willing to sacrifice. So if they are willing to sacrifice everything but Ayatollah Ali Khamenei then you go ahead and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei . It is a concept of intelligence, know what your enemy is doing at all times and what he is not willing to sacrifice. If you don't have that intelligence, you are just guessing and maybe you get it right and maybe you don't. In the meantime a lot of people will suffer. North Korea is a good example, who knows want going on there. Why? We don't have good human intelligence on the ground there. Actually, we agree for the most part, except I think Obama is kissing Iran a**, and I also think we know plenty about those clowns and getting cozy with them will only serve to weaken us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aonebadbone Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Obama is a puss and now our country looks weak. I was going to move out of Ca. but now I want to leave the country instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blackhawkpilot Posted March 23, 2009 Report Share Posted March 23, 2009 Cowardly cut-throat oxygen-thieving-slime didn't just start. Its been going on since the beginning of human society. Its nothing new, it just needs to be dealt with correctly. Never said they are something new. They have been around, but in Sun Tzu's time they didn't have CNN therefore they could never come close to spreading terror on the level they can today. And yes, I agree they need to be dealt with correctly. We will simply have to kill them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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