Obama's Civilian National Security Force

[ilmor]

A little-publicized Department of Defense Directive (Number 1404.10) establishes a "DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce" and rescinds a prior directive dealing with the emergency use of civilian personnel.

 

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/02/w...n-national.html

 

This is apparently a fact.

 

Now put 2 and 2 together...

[69dejavue]

I heard obama talk about this on camera. He wants a civilian miltary force that is as strong and as well equipped as the US military. Why? Whom will they answer? What is the purpose? Where will the funding come? Are they in competition with the military? His own merc force to operate within the US? And against US citizens?

 

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Even Stevie Wonder can see socialism and or communism coming. Maybe under force.

[Dig-It]

I heard obama talk about this on camera. He wants a civilian miltary force that is as strong and as well equipped as the US military. Why? Whom will they answer? What is the purpose? Where will the funding come? Are they in competition with the military? His own merc force to operate within the US? And against US citizens?

 

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Even Stevie Wonder can see socialism and or communism coming. Maybe under force.

It's to break the Republican spirit and the spirit of all others that stand in the way of the socialist movement!

 

BTW, that's funny 69. I've got to be able to buy a t-shirt that says that!

[07SGT4578]

I heard obama talk about this on camera. He wants a civilian miltary force that is as strong and as well equipped as the US military. Why? Whom will they answer? What is the purpose? Where will the funding come? Are they in competition with the military? His own merc force to operate within the US? And against US citizens?

 

O one

 

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M mistake

 

A America

 

 

Even Stevie Wonder can see socialism and or communism coming. Maybe under force.

 

[AFBLUE]

I see nothing of concern here. When I read "DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce", I think of "nation building" i.e. doing the things that the US military doesn't want to do and wasn't prepared to do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

Establish rule of law, develop free market capitalism, judicial systems, utilities, infrastructure development, and all the other things the military is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan because there was no one else in the US government to do "nation building". I was in Ramadi Iraq acting as an economic advisor, trying to help the local chamber of commerce and business center improve business/job creation . Nothing in my previous 20 years of military training prepared me for this type of specialized work. Heck I had to do some research just to figure out what exactly a Chamber of Commerce does. I was assigned to the economics team only because I had earned a masters in economics 11 years earlier.

 

Let this Civlian Force do this type of work so that the military can concentrate on it's primary missions. One of the biggest critiques of the Iraq War was the lack of planning for stability operations (the phase after major combat ops). We had the plan to win the war, but not much on winning the peace. This civilian workforce could specialize in this type of planning and operations.

 

Sorry but Obama doesn't get credit for thinking this up. This concept has been discussed for years...many articles written about the need for it. If done right it will be a another tool in the national security tool box. If this workforce had existed at the start of 2003, we'd probably be 4 years ahead of where we are now in Iraq.

[DDT]

Good read........Thank's.............

[stormeaston]

Kinda like Hitler's "Brown Shirts", they were organized under the same pretext, but in reality just went around and beat the $hit out of the opposition. Not that some of the "opposition" in this country couldn't use alittle beating here and there.

[AstroDan]

I see nothing of concern here. When I read "DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce", I think of "nation building" i.e. doing the things that the US military doesn't want to do and wasn't prepared to do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

Establish rule of law, develop free market capitalism, judicial systems, utilities, infrastructure development, and all the other things the military is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan because there was no one else in the US government to do "nation building". I was in Ramadi Iraq acting as an economic advisor, trying to help the local chamber of commerce and business center improve business/job creation . Nothing in my previous 20 years of military training prepared me for this type of specialized work. Heck I had to do some research just to figure out what exactly a Chamber of Commerce does. I was assigned to the economics team only because I had earned a masters in economics 11 years earlier.

 

Let this Civlian Force do this type of work so that the military can concentrate on it's primary missions. One of the biggest critiques of the Iraq War was the lack of planning for stability operations (the phase after major combat ops). We had the plan to win the war, but not much on winning the peace. This civilian workforce could specialize in this type of planning and operations.

 

Sorry but Obama doesn't get credit for thinking this up. This concept has been discussed for years...many articles written about the need for it. If done right it will be a another tool in the national security tool box. If this workforce had existed at the start of 2003, we'd probably be 4 years ahead of where we are now in Iraq.

 

 

All true. The point is that obama changed the wording...

 

Can you say SS in 1937? Too early to tell.

Give him a chance!

[kahmann]

All true. The point is that obama changed the wording...

 

Can you say SS in 1937? Too early to tell.

Give him a chance!

[BLOWN]

After watching this video MAYBE we do need another security force. I know we have the National Guard BUT maybe a civilian National Security Force would not be a bad Idea.Have any of you seen this video It could be very scarry that we have exstremist trainning camps right here In America being trainned to Kill US. I know it is hard to Beleive that there are Radicals here and they know (THE LAW) that they are here but they can not do anything about it. something needs to be done before it is to late. should we wait and let them hit us first. I say we go in there and take them out before they start bombing are schools and malls and stores and killing all in the name of there God. Well watch this video. what do you think should be done. Can anything be done.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html...,494290,00.html

[one_quik_pony]

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But not looting the taxpayer :D

[ilmor]

The point is, I think, that actions like this, coupled with other plans (some of which are included in the so-called "stimulus" package), are putting some very potentially dangerous components into play.

 

Civilian Military Force (mentioned above)

Increase government control of schools and education (includes kicking any religious out) ("stimulus" package)

Increased government control of the internet ("stimulus" package)

The "Fairness" Doctrine (being pushed also under other names to sneak by)

The "Freedom of Choice Act" (Obama pledged to sign)

Government control of all medical records ("stimulas" package)

Government control of medical diagnosis and treatments ("stimulus" package)

Government control of manufacturing & corporations (already happening)

The Media in the tank with the party in power - basically controlled by the party in power at this time.

 

The list keeps growing.

 

Couple the above with the abolishment of the right to bear arms, which the liberals are also pushing hard on.

 

It all looks very scary to say the least!

[one_quik_pony]

It all looks very scary to say the least!

 

Agreed, and so do the job and stock markets.

 

At this point maybe we should focus on those...

[STLShelby]

The point is, I think, that actions like this, coupled with other plans (some of which are included in the so-called "stimulus" package), are putting some very potentially dangerous components into play.

 

Civilian Military Force (mentioned above)

Increase government control of schools and education (includes kicking any religious out) ("stimulus" package)

Increased government control of the internet ("stimulus" package)

The "Fairness" Doctrine (being pushed also under other names to sneak by)

The "Freedom of Choice Act" (Obama pledged to sign)

Government control of all medical records ("stimulas" package)

Government control of medical diagnosis and treatments ("stimulus" package)

Government control of manufacturing & corporations (already happening)

The Media in the tank with the party in power - basically controlled by the party in power at this time.

 

The list keeps growing.

 

Couple the above with the abolishment of the right to bear arms, which the liberals are also pushing hard on.

 

It all looks very scary to say the least!

 

I am afraid the writing is on the wall my friend.

 

Maybe we should learn to speak French...

[69dejavue]

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But not looting the taxpayer :D

 

 

Nothing wrong with Blackwater. Good Americans, well trained to do a job no one else wants.

[one_quik_pony]

Nothing wrong with Blackwater. Good Americans, well trained to do a job no one else wants.

 

EVERYTHING is wrong with a privatized military for hire

[Dig-It]

Nothing wrong with Blackwater. Good Americans, well trained to do a job no one else wants.

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[ilmor]

Kinda like

 

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But not looting the taxpayer :D

 

Oh don't worry; the taxpayers will be paying for it!!

[69dejavue]

If the civilian "military force" is unarmed, and is going in to rebuild countries that may be acceptable. But if they are armed, and in competition with the US military, then that is an issue. You would have to ask why there would be a civilian armed military and a US armed military.

 

remember if the UN becomes involved it will be even worse and even more it will be corrupt, just like oil for food. Remember that French, et al, scandal they seem to ignore. I will never, never, forgive france. They allowed Saddam to continue buying military equipment under the table in exchange for oil and money. It eventually cost American lives.

[AFBLUE]

Ironic...your user name is French

[Boss Doctor]

Ironic...your user name is French

 

[AFBLUE]

Ok I read through DoDD 1404.10

 

Members of the DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce shall be organized, trained, cleared, equipped, and ready to

deployin support of combat operations by the military; contingencies; emergency operations; humanitarian missions; disaster relief; restoration of order; drug interdiction; and stability operations of the Department of Defense in accordance with DoDD 3000.05

 

They serve in a variety of positions, provide essential capabilities and, where appropriate for civilians to do so, support mission requirements such as combat, contingencies, emergency operations; humanitarian and civic assistance activities; disaster relief; restoration of order; drug interdiction; and stability operations of the Department of Defense, herein collectively referred to as “expeditionary requirements.”

 

DoD is very percise with their wording. http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/doddict/

 

How does DOD define expedition and expeditionary force?

(DOD) A military operation conducted by an armed force to accomplish a specific objective in a foreign country.

expeditionary force

(DOD) An armed force organized to accomplish a specific objective in a foreign country.

 

What are stability operations?

stability operations. An overarching term encompassing various military missions, tasks, and

activities conducted outside the United States in coordination with other instruments of national

power to maintain or reestablish a safe and secure environment, provide essential governmental

services, emergency infrastructure reconstruction, and humanitarian relief.

 

Just an observation. When Bush was President, the extreme left saw conspiracies everywhere. Bush was taking away our civil liberties through various activities. Last time I checked Bush didn't suspend the Constitution and declare Marshal Law so that he and the Cheney could keep the Democrats from taking power and reversing all their work. Now that Obama is President, folks on the right see Obama in the same light as the left saw Bush. In 4, 8, 12 years from now a Republican President will come in office and no matter what is true beliefs are, he will be painted in the same light as Bush. Just look at how McCain, one of the most non-establishment Republicans was labeled another Bush.

[AFBLUE]

Uh oh. It looks like the Bush Administration's Defense Department was behind this evil plot to set up a "Civilian Expeditionary Force"

http://thetension.blogspot.com/2008/10/pen...e-civilian.html

 

WASHINGTON, Oct. 1, 2008 -- The Defense Department is moving forward with setting up a global expeditionary force for civilian employees, a senior Pentagon personnel official said yesterday.

 

Patricia Bradshaw, deputy undersecretary of defense for civilian personnel policy, said operations in Iraq and Afghanistan pointed to the roles DoD civilians can play.

 

“In the past, there were many situations and job opportunities that we have just routinely relied on the military to do, or we have turned to a contractor,” she said.

 

But DoD civilian employees have played crucial roles in operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. “At the end of the day, when you look at the duties that need to be performed in theater -- and particularly as the [security] situation becomes more permissive -- it provides opportunities for DoD civilians to serve,” she said.

 

More than 16,000 DoD civilians have served in U.S. Central Command’s area of operations since 2001, officials said. They have served as engineers, logistics specialists, weapons inspectors, administrative specialists and on provincial reconstruction teams.

 

“They have demonstrated the value civilians can give to theaters like Iraq and Afghanistan,” Bradshaw said.

 

Even more opportunities exist now for civilians to serve. As the coalition works to help the Iraqi and Afghan governments to develop their defense ministries, more civilians are needed to serve as advisors to their counterparts, she said.

 

Dod civilians have a desire to serve, Bradshaw noted. The State Department asked DoD for help in filling slots in provincial reconstruction teams in Iraq. The solicitation for the 100 slots went throughout the department, and more than 1,500 DoD civilian employees sent in resumes. This demonstrated many DoD civilians would rise to the occasion to serve if they could, Bradshaw said.

 

“We filled those jobs, and we saw the increased demand for DoD civilians, yet we did not have an infrastructure to support that,” she said.

 

To rectify that, David S.C. Chu, undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, issued a memorandum Feb. 12 titled, “Building Increased Civilian Deployment Capacity.” That memorandum laid the groundwork for the expeditionary civilian work force and put rules in place.

 

“The first is if we advertised a position and a civilian volunteered, then that DoD civilian should be released to serve,” Bradshaw said.

 

This will be tested as individual augmentee positions – normally filled by servicemembers in Iraq and Afghanistan – begin to be filled by civilians. A total of 157 positions are open.

 

“Our goal is to get DoD civilians to volunteer for these opportunities,” she said. “At the end of the day, it’s not only good for accomplishing the mission, but [also] for building an individual’s portfolio for the future, [when] this kind of experience will become ever more important.”

 

The idea is to have a cadre of civilians who can respond to long-term opportunities and to crises such as hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes and so on, she explained.

 

“We’re creating an infrastructure that can respond to needs around the globe, and that includes civilian capability,” Bradshaw said.

 

The jobs are temporary assignments with most for a year, but some for six months. Civilians deploying to the region will receive not only cultural and language training, but also force protection training, and must meet medical requirements, she said. When the assignment is over, local installations must ensure civilian employees return to the jobs they left or similar ones.

 

“One of the objectives when we set up our expeditionary work force is we need to have a ready, cleared and trained work force that can respond on a dime like our military does,” she said.

[turnsignaldelete]

 

As we listen to Obama's speech tonight, consider the following;

 

Sam Webb is the national chair of the Communist Party USA. In the last two years, Webb has traveled to China, United Kingdom, Vietnam, and Cuba where he met with Communist and Socialist leaders and he represented the Communist Party USA at the Athens, Greece, meeting of world Communist Parties.

 

Recent speech and statements;

 

"President Obama, is working to nationalize the U.S. economy", said Sam Webb. "President Obama is beginning, the 'Peoples Change', by Nationalizing, the U.S. financial system ,the Federal Reserve Bank, private industries, such as energy and other private sectors".

 

"These business's must be Nationalized, because their future is "problematic" in private hands", claims the leader of the Communist Party of the USA. in a major speech focused on Obama titled, "Off and running: Opportunity of a lifetime,"

 

CPUSA leader Sam Webb also stated that "President Obama's administration will and must turn education, childcare, and health care into "no profit zones;" rerouting investment capital from military infrastructure to "green economy" projects and public infrastructure; and waging a "full scale" assault on global warming."

 

"We now have not simply a friend, but a 'people's advocate' in the White House," declared Sam Webb at a recent speech in Ohio for People's Weekly World Communist newspaper. He appalled, "President Obama and his plans for a complete, Democratic public takeover of the energy complex as well as a readiness and strong willingness, to takeover other basic industries whose future is problematic in private hands".

 

"Turning education, child care, and health care into "no profit" zones". "Rerouting investment capital from unproductive investment (military, finance and so forth) to productive investment in a green economy and public infrastructure."

 

Webb applauded "Obama's, $800-plus billion stimulus package as "a good bill that will begin the process of Nationalizing the Private sector". Communist Party, leader Sam Webb, explained that labor unions, (which he said were instrumental in Obama's election), must work hard, to keep the White House in check by "exercising an enormous influence on the political process".

 

Sam Webb concluded by stating, "that never before in American history, has a coalition, like the Obama administration, with such breadth and influence, walked on the political stage of our country," "Our time has come".