RUFDRAFT Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 ...less, my son, is invariably - more. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 ...less, my son, is invariably - more. +1 Yeah, I agree -- form following function. Rat's already got a nice functional spoiler back there, but the GT needs a serious front splitter for high-speed stability -- and maybe a front brake upgrade if it will see much of the twisties. That's what's so great about the 'stang -- tons of stuff out there to make it what you need it to be! You know the Camaro and Chal will follow the identical aftermarket model that Ford did such a superb job developing for the mustang, but that's to be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dan - please stop bringing up brakes.... "Honey, where did you leave your Mastercard?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Dan - please stop bringing up brakes.... "Honey, where did you leave your Mastercard?" sorry ok, no more whoa-power comments -- my lips are sealed <well, not likely, but.. ;-) > but those Baer's are really..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratnacage Posted October 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Yeah, I agree -- form following function. Rat's already got a nice functional spoiler back there, but the GT needs a serious front splitter for high-speed stability -- and maybe a front brake upgrade if it will see much of the twisties. That's what's so great about the 'stang -- tons of stuff out there to make it what you need it to be! You know the Camaro and Chal will follow the identical aftermarket model that Ford did such a superb job developing for the mustang, but that's to be expected. Actually, I'm all about the qtr mile, so twisties won't be happenin' - but, my primary reason for not doing anything to the front is simply one of reality; this car is a daily driver and it already sits so low, anything hanging off the front would be toast in short order. Ruf, you're making me jealous with the talk about cams. I'll be interested to see how that works out. Is it for sure, or are you still trying to justify it to the wife? I'm thinking about it; it may be just the thing to wake up my long tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratnacage Posted November 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Houston, we have Horse Power! After installing the WMS CAI, I could feel it, but thought it could just be my imagination. I brought it to my tuner to dial it in on the dyno today ...and.... 306 hp / 316 tq at the wheels Despite that WMS claims no tune is needed, the first pull showed the car to be very lean, so the moral of that story is even if the manufacturer of a CAI claims not to need a retune, do it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjp80 Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Houston, we have Horse Power! After installing the WMS CAI, I could feel it, but thought it could just be my imagination. I brought it to my tuner to dial it in on the dyno today ...and.... 306 hp / 316 tq at the wheels Despite that WMS claims no tune is needed, the first pull showed the car to be very lean, so the moral of that story is even if the manufacturer of a CAI claims not to need a retune, do it anyway. very nice car you certainly have done your homework which dealer did you get yours from in houston iam waiting on mine to come in Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moabman Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 tjp80 - did you order from a Houston dealer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Houston, we have Horse Power! After installing the WMS CAI, I could feel it, but thought it could just be my imagination. I brought it to my tuner to dial it in on the dyno today ...and.... 306 hp / 316 tq at the wheels Despite that WMS claims no tune is needed, the first pull showed the car to be very lean, so the moral of that story is even if the manufacturer of a CAI claims not to need a retune, do it anyway. Good news, Rat -- 306 rwHP is real nice! Even with no mods at all a good dyno tune will wake things up -- the factory settings are typically so conservative. I was talking to an FRPP guy at SEMA and said the more they work with the 4.6GT the more they realize how much can be put to it -- he wasn't specific but the context was pushing it further with the Whipple pack (beyond how the pack is offered). He said they've been "very solid" in their testing. Happy T-day -Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 Congrats, Rat - and thanks. I should be seeing some very different numbers next week when we dyno tune my car. :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moabman Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Congrats Rat! Pretty impressive numbers. How's the acceleration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratnacage Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 tjp80 - did you order from a Houston dealer? yes. My salesman was FANTASTIC - THE BEST IN THE WHOLE WORLD!! ...I'm one of the internet sales guys at Lone Star Ford ..........oh, I just realized the question wasn't for me - sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratnacage Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Here's a pic under the hood showing the WMS and tower brace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grabber Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Very clean looking. Nice Fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratnacage Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Good news, Rat -- 306 rwHP is real nice! Even with no mods at all a good dyno tune will wake things up -- the factory settings are typically so conservative. I was talking to an FRPP guy at SEMA and said the more they work with the 4.6GT the more they realize how much can be put to it -- he wasn't specific but the context was pushing it further with the Whipple pack (beyond how the pack is offered). He said they've been "very solid" in their testing. Happy T-day -Dan Yes, these S197's are sooo much better engineered than previous models. They respond very good to upgrades. Good thing too, because with Chevy and Dodge coming on board with their "pony" cars, the Mustang will have its plate full. But, I have no doubt the aftermarket will provide everything we need to remain ahead of the pack. Come to think of it, future Chevy and Dodge owners should be lining up to kiss Mustang owners' asses. If it weren't for the uninterupted success of the Mustang, there would be no performance aftermarket for late model cars and the modern Muscle car would be dead, that is unless you like the taste of rice!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjp80 Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 tjp80 - did you order from a Houston dealer? yes i did planet ford on my second sales person the first one quite i have to be there this spring for 2 months thought i would buy a car before renting again with the taxs in texas price was better than my dealer at home and i get 3 or 4 truck a year from him go figure but he has to service it i am bring it back to new after the trip tom yes. My salesman was FANTASTIC - THE BEST IN THE WHOLE WORLD!! ...I'm one of the internet sales guys at Lone Star Ford ..........oh, I just realized the question wasn't for me - sorry. hello i stopped in but no one at the dealership gave me any time i just wanted to order a cal special and go maybe on my gt 500 tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 Here's a pic under the hood showing the WMS and tower brace. Ah, that's the Western Motorsports CAI I mentioned a while back -- the stats on it are impressive. I think FRP offers a hood that looks nearly stock except for a roughtly 2x12" inlet near the leading edge on each side -- would probably work outstanding with that CAI. Rat, I should know better by now, you probably already have it on-order or in the paint-shop -- not much gets by you ;-) -Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moabman Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 My car is finalized! and I have an ETA - December 18. That CAI looks mighty nice Rat and didn't you say you would hook me up with your tuner? I love the mods you have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Oh, Daddy! Sounds like you're going to have a tire-smoke Christmas! Are you going to meet the transport at the dealer to get some pics? And to keep the driver from being too casual?! How much are the Michelin's? What sizes? Tire Rack? What's your MSRP? I'm happy for ya, man. :hyper: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratnacage Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Ah, that's the Western Motorsports CAI I mentioned a while back -- the stats on it are impressive. I think FRP offers a hood that looks nearly stock except for a roughtly 2x12" inlet near the leading edge on each side -- would probably work outstanding with that CAI. Rat, I should know better by now, you probably already have it on-order or in the paint-shop -- not much gets by you ;-) -Dan The question really is, how much can I get past my wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 The question really is, how much can I get past my wife. What a great idea, hon -- slots in the hood for better cooling will make the a/c work less and save gas! :o And she'll say busted! oh, well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 I'm holding a seminar on this very issue at the Waldorf in two weeks. I'll comp ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratnacage Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 RATNACAGE - 1, LONESTARFORDINC - 0 Scott gets schooled... Scott just got himself a new Mustang GT and was givin' me crap all day that he was going to whip me (racing). We both left work late and travel most of the same way home, so naturally he had to try it out. I slowed to about 65 and waited for him to come up along side, but he doesn't know much about street racing etiquet, so he thought it was fair to come screaming up from behind, and pass me at 80+. I saw him doing this, so I went to 4th gear, he passed me initially, but I quickly matched speed, and pulled past him. We did this a couple times with basically the same result. Later he was giving me more crap that my car wasn't that fast. I had to break the news to him, that I was pulling him in 5th gear while he was still balls-to-the-wall in 4th..."I beat you in 5th gear!" (I have a 4.10 gear, so 4th winds out pretty quickly when you're racing on the highway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moabman Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 uhhhh - how do you get that inspected? Where are the cats? I see the O2 sensors but are the cats even further to the rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratnacage Posted December 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2006 uhhhh - how do you get that inspected? Where are the cats? I see the O2 sensors but are the cats even further to the rear? um, yeah, the cats are just out of the picture...yeah, that's it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ratnacage Posted March 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Geez - I had to resurect my thread from page 6. Why do you hate me??? Anyway..... I'm so excited, I just can't hide it.... I just handed my car over to Josh/Fastlane (not affiliated with the other Fastlane on the east coast) to get a set of cams put in. I selected ones with some overlap so it should thump nicely. I also installed some painted mirrors. Hopefully I should have dyno video/numbers available by the end of next week. BTW, anyone know how to edit a thread's subject? Is it possible? :banana piano: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 I just handed my car over to Josh/Fastlane (not affiliated with the other Fastlane on the east coast) to get a set of cams put in. I selected ones with some overlap so it should thump nicely. I also installed some painted mirrors. Hopefully I should have dyno video/numbers available by the end of next week. Sounds cool - same kind of cam that Ruf used or more radical? Doing any head work at the same time? BTW, anyone know how to edit a thread's subject? Is it possible? Only the god like powers of the almight Moderators, in their infinite wisdom, can do such a deed. But be warned, they may ask you to prove yourself with several feats of strength and wisdom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Rat - just PM Grabber. He'll fix it. Can't wait to see the #'s! Tell us more about the cams. You going with delete plates, too? What sort of rwhp do you expect? Pics, Pics, Pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68fastback Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 :popcorn: Dyno Nums feature-film about to start -- grab a chair! ;-) Yeah, what cams, Rat? What brand/lift/overlap/duration? Hollow-drilled billet? There's a killer FRP intake for the 3V (very pricey) :devil: :hyper: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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