DDT Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 OK, since we totally HIGHJACKED the 09 GT500 order guide topick and there are people here wanting to read about Dealer Experiences "Good or Bad", maybe post them here? "BECAUSE IT WAS REQUESTED" Here is test drive #3 without obtaining a reasonable sales price. This was the Dealer that claimed "THE NEW GT500 IS ONLY ONE YEAR PRODUCTION 07 AND THEIR DONE". In Feb. 07 I was contacted by Kathy from Sunset Ford in Westminister. She advised me the exact GT500 I am looking for (fully loaded red coupe white stripes) just offloaded from the car carrier with only 4 miles on the odometer. She said hurry and get down here as there is a guy from Chicago landing at LAX with a 12 noon appt. to purchase the car. (ANOTHER BS SALES TACTIC). I asked her if they could keep it out of the show room so I can test drive it and she said yes "thats why I am calling you". I was excited but tied up at work and since I knew the Chicago Spill was BS, I was in no hurry. I finally got their just before 2pm and of course the "Chicago Guy" did not materialize. The first salesman I met said "Ya most customers are LIERS" when asked about the 12 noon appt. Anyway I have all the respect for Kathy as she is a sweet gal but just caught up in this "ADM" thing like a "PAWN IN AN EVIL GAME"?????? She showed me the car on the parking lot already cleaned and NO ADM STICKER. It was perfect, just what I wanted with only 4 miles on the odometer. Asked her where is the keys and she handed them to me and said lets go your driving. First time I got to drive one directly off the lot. Did not get crazy with this test drive drive but still proud to break it in and see the boost come alive. Only drove surface streets and back to the dealer with 11 miles on the odometer. I actually was getting excited thinking I could keep them from posting the "ADM" and purchase this one for sticker????? After all it was the only price on the car and that is what I told Kathy that I see no other price. She said OK let me talk to the Manager.......... Next thing I see about 5 minutes later is 3 guys emerging from the show room like KEYSTONE COPS one holding an "ADM" and I stood between them and my car and said "IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO POST THAT ON THIS CAR I WILL SLAP THE SNOT OUT OF YOU". Should have seen their jaws drop, "PRICELESS". After a few minutes of verbal sparing I realized the lost cause and let the crooks put the "FORTYFIVETHOUSANDDOLLAR" ADM on the window. That my friends is a "100%MARKUP"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DING DING DING Could not stop laughing at them but had enough respect to thank Kathy for treating me so good. And my Friends, the search continued................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGT750 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 I'm suprised they didn't want to charge you for the 7miles you just put on the car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDT Posted March 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 DDT.......Your stories make me sick....I pray that there are not too many people like you around. this will be my last response to your sickening stories...you can post as much as you want with out me coming across it. Thank you, have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua484 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Thank you for sharing your story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted March 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you; See I can be nice??????? But remember this. When I was told at the LA auto show in 06 by the Ford spokesman on the GT500 "You can purchase this car for under 50Grand", I was so excited that I could actually afford this car and then the dissappointment seeing the "ADM"s made me more determined to make my deal instead of walk away and forget it. It paid off...... And I also contacted Ford Corperate and this is a Quote from them; "It is a free market and price is any amount agreeable between buyer and seller". Notice they did not say anything about "YOU HAVE TO PAY THE MARKET PRICE"..... Some pay more some pay less but I chose to pay what I could afford the best way I knew how and both me and my selling dealer feel good about the deal we made............ :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstrong Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Quote "IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO POST THAT ON THIS CAR I WILL SLAP THE SNOT OUT OF YOU". Nice way to talk. Threating some one with physical harm for putting a sign on a car. If you think that is appropriate you have much bigger problems. I know a few people that if you said that to them and tried, it would be the last slap you ever gave. We might be reading your obituary instead of your story. And you talk like this around your child? I ordered a 1998 Sable wagon from a family Dealership in Dutton, Ontario on the A-plan.( then spouses A plan). Traded in a 97 Escort. They gave me a very good price for the trade in at the time. ($4400.00). I deleted the moon roof on the wagon, a $1000.00 option. Car came in with moon roof. Dealer apologized for his error, took the entire moon roof price w/tax and added it to the trade in. Gave me over 5500.00 for my car. He could not change the Sable price as it was A-plan. He also said if I did not want the moon roof they would order another vehicle for me. My choice. I took the Sable with the now free moon roof. At about almost 3 years later the power steering and rack went. The vehicle had 95000 km. It was technically out of warranty. Dealer called Ford, Ford decided to split the costs with the dealership out of good faith and I was only charged $100.00. Ford and the dealership covered the rest. I did not have the extended warranty. August 2004. I wanted a 40th Anniversary Crimson Red Mustang GT. There were only 3 like I wanted in Canada. One was 100 Km away. When we contacted the Dealership to purchase the vehicle the sales person called back to say he made a mistake. He was driving it on the weekend and had put the odometer to a little over 1000 km. Car can't be sold as new he says. The sales person the contacted the dealership in Saskatchewan who had one. It had 30 kms on it. Then he had it shipped to Ontario for me and Ford agreed to the additional shipping costs and I did not have to pay for the extra shipping even though I agreed upfront to pay to have it shipped. Good manors get you a lot farther than threats. :happy feet: Thats all I have to say about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted March 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Quote "IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TOPOST THAT ON THIS CAR I WILL SLAP THE SNOT OUT OF YOU". Nice way to talk. Threating some one with physical harm for putting a sign on a car. If you think that is appropriate you have much bigger problems. I know a few people that if you said that to them and tried, it would be the last slap you ever gave. We might be reading your obituary instead of your story. And you talk like this around your child? I ordered a 1998 Sable wagon from a family Dealership in Dutton, Ontario on the A-plan.( then spouses A plan). Traded in a 97 Escort. They gave me a very good price for the trade in at the time. ($4400.00). I deleted the moon roof on the wagon, a $1000.00 option. Car came in with moon roof. Dealer apologized for his error, took the entire moon roof price w/tax and added it to the trade in. Gave me over 5500.00 for my car. He could not change the Sable price as it was A-plan. He also said if I did not want the moon roof they would order another vehicle for me. My choice. I took the Sable with the now free moon roof. At about almost 3 years later the power steering and rack went. The vehicle had 95000 km. It was technically out of warranty. Dealer called Ford, Ford decided to split the costs with the dealership out of good faith and I was only charged $100.00. Ford and the dealership covered the rest. I did not have the extended warranty. August 2004. I wanted a 40th Anniversary Crimson Red Mustang GT. There were only 3 like I wanted in Canada. One was 100 Km away. When we contacted the Dealership to purchase the vehicle the sales person called back to say he made a mistake. He was driving it on the weekend and had put the odometer to a little over 1000 km. Car can't be sold as new he says. The sales person the contacted the dealership in Saskatchewan who had one. It had 30 kms on it. Then he had it shipped to Ontario for me and Ford agreed to the additional shipping costs and I did not have to pay for the extra shipping even though I agreed upfront to pay to have it shipped. Good manors get you a lot farther than threats. :happy feet: Thats all I have to say about that! I knew I should of left my son out of this............ No he was not with me that day................. And here in So. Cal the rude bad manners start with the sales people when trying to make a Deal on the GT500 was my experience............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Medved Ford in Castle Rock, CO: Walked into the dealership and asked about the upcoming '07 Shelby GT500. After some negotiating, I got a commitment from them for $10K over MSRP, and I wrote them a $1,000 deposit check to secure my #4 place in line. A few weeks later, I get a call from them saying they were sending my deposit check back because they decided they could get a lot more than $10K over MSRP. What's the point of a deposit if the dealer isn't going to honor it? I went around to some other local dealers and got laughed out of the showroom when I asked for a Shelby for $10K over MRSP. Got a lot of the typical, "They are only making 500 of these" and "You'll never find one for under $25K over MSRP." I then emailed every other dealership in Colorado asking if anyone had a Shelby allocation. I got a call the next day from Town & Country Ford in Salida, CO. The guy says they had one Shelby allocation. I asked how much. He said $2K over MSRP to cover the SVT certification. I said "Sold! I'll see you in three hours with a deposit check." They never played any games, were always completely honest, and treated me like a valued customer. Greatest car buying experience ever! Thanks Billy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted March 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Medved Ford in Castle Rock, CO:Walked into the dealership and asked about the upcoming '07 Shelby GT500. After some negotiating, I got a commitment from them for $10K over MSRP, and I wrote them a $1,000 deposit check to secure my #4 place in line. A few weeks later, I get a call from them saying they were sending my deposit check back because they decided they could get a lot more than $10K over MSRP. What's the point of a deposit if the dealer isn't going to honor it? I went around to some other local dealers and got laughed out of the showroom when I asked for a Shelby for $10K over MRSP. Got a lot of the typical, "They are only making 500 of these" and "You'll never find one for under $25K over MSRP." I then emailed every other dealership in Colorado asking if anyone had a Shelby allocation. I got a call the next day from Town & Country Ford in Salida, CO. The guy says they had one Shelby allocation. I asked how much. He said $2K over MSRP to cover the SVT certification. I said "Sold! I'll see you in three hours with a deposit check." They never played any games, were always completely honest, and treated me like a valued customer. Greatest car buying experience ever! Thanks Billy! I am sure that Dealership has alot of repeat happy customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua484 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Medved Ford in Castle Rock, CO:Walked into the dealership and asked about the upcoming '07 Shelby GT500. After some negotiating, I got a commitment from them for $10K over MSRP, and I wrote them a $1,000 deposit check to secure my #4 place in line. A few weeks later, I get a call from them saying they were sending my deposit check back because they decided they could get a lot more than $10K over MSRP. What's the point of a deposit if the dealer isn't going to honor it? I went around to some other local dealers and got laughed out of the showroom when I asked for a Shelby for $10K over MRSP. Got a lot of the typical, "They are only making 500 of these" and "You'll never find one for under $25K over MSRP." I then emailed every other dealership in Colorado asking if anyone had a Shelby allocation. I got a call the next day from Town & Country Ford in Salida, CO. The guy says they had one Shelby allocation. I asked how much. He said $2K over MSRP to cover the SVT certification. I said "Sold! I'll see you in three hours with a deposit check." They never played any games, were always completely honest, and treated me like a valued customer. Greatest car buying experience ever! Thanks Billy! Nice Story!!! There are MANY of us that wish the car dealer than we dealt with was that easy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyDude Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 2005 riding back with the owner from a Ford meeting. Owner says, "well I got that 500 HP mustang sold!" Promised it to a doctor. Two years later the doc's car comes in. MSRP + $750 to cover half the $1,500 enrollment fee. Never signed anything. Never took a deposit. Honored the deal on just his WORD! Even after being offered $20K over by more than 50 other dealers! I got the same deal on our second car! :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owenkelley Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 We bought ours at the local ford dealership. I had been bugging them about the car for two years before they started making them. I had been at SAAC Does Vegas and Shelby told us there would be a new Shelby Mustang, but he couldn't tell us much about it. I assumed I'd have to pay full MSRP because that's what they charged for their Bullitts and Mach I's, but I kept buggning the salesmanager ( who is a friend of mine ) about getting one for $100 over invoice. He never committed to anything - he kept telling me 'they're never gonna build that thing"! After it was announced that the car would indeed be built, he told me " they're probably gonna be $5000 over MSRP". I about had a heart attack, but I had to have one anyway. They have sold all of their GT500's at that price, even though they were offered $10,000 over MSRP from a huge dealership out on the coast. They weren't too happy however when a guy they sold one to at $5000 over MSRP walked out to the lot after doing the paperwork and sold it to somebody else for a profit. He never even drove it off the lot! All this did was convince them they were selling the cars too cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 2005 riding back with the owner from a Ford meeting. Owner says, "well I got that 500 HP mustang sold!" Promised it to a doctor. Two years later the doc's car comes in. MSRP + $750 to cover half the $1,500 enrollment fee. Never signed anything. Never took a deposit. Honored the deal on just his WORD! Even after being offered $20K over by more than 50 other dealers! I got the same deal on our second car! :happy feet: i can vouch for ketting ford in granite city illinois...msrp deals on gt500's.....i bet you could even get a shelbygt below msrp in this current market....the most asnine dealer i know of resides in st louis...trying to get $3k adm on a bullitt...i will never buy from them... another dealer in belleville, ILL is asking $20k adm on the gt500.....point is shop around...i know SD or MM will not steer a guy wrong...a good name means everything...those 2 guys would not last 5 minutes on the net if they played games...from what i have seen and read..they dont...and neither do the guys at ketting ford....you guys bitchin and moaning have at least 3 honest dealers here...so quit bitchin and get on the phone or fly in to the city in which they reside and drive the damn car home....rant/tin hat off now for you dodge ram guys(like myself)...sam leman in morton illinois is the best dodge dealer i know..just gave a 58 chevy apache to the mennonite relief sale in bloomington....honest as they come...so if you want a great mopar guy..leman is one of the best..and yes i know this is a ford site the point is there are a few good car dealers out there..mods feel free to ban me if mopar and dodge is a dirty word around here......2nd tinhat/rant off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua484 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 2005 riding back with the owner from a Ford meeting. Owner says, "well I got that 500 HP mustang sold!" Promised it to a doctor. Two years later the doc's car comes in. MSRP + $750 to cover half the $1,500 enrollment fee. Never signed anything. Never took a deposit. Honored the deal on just his WORD! Even after being offered $20K over by more than 50 other dealers! I got the same deal on our second car! :happy feet: Those are a couple amazing deals!! All based on his word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyDude Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 i can vouch for ketting ford in granite city illinois...msrp deals on gt500's.....i bet you could even get a shelbygt below msrp in this current market....the most asnine dealer i know of resides in st louis...trying to get $3k adm on a bullitt...i will never buy from them... another dealer in belleville, ILL is asking $20k adm on the gt500.....point is shop around...i know SD or MM will not steer a guy wrong...a good name means everything...those 2 guys would not last 5 minutes on the net if they played games...from what i have seen and read..they dont...and neither do the guys at ketting ford....you guys bitchin and moaning have at least 3 honest dealers here...so quit bitchin and get on the phone or fly in to the city in which they reside and drive the damn car home....rant/tin hat off now for you dodge ram guys(like myself)...sam leman in morton illinois is the best dodge dealer i know..just gave a 58 chevy apache to the mennonite relief sale in bloomington....honest as they come...so if you want a great mopar guy..leman is one of the best..and yes i know this is a ford site the point is there are a few good car dealers out there..mods feel free to ban me if mopar and dodge is a dirty word around here......2nd tinhat/rant off You have to be the first person I have heard say anything good about Leman's. LOL Although I can't speak for the one in Morton. Same owner but I hear lots of complaints about the one in Bloomington. True story. We all pretty much use the same wholesalers that buy older high mileage cars we wouldn't want. Had a customer that shopped us then went to Leman's. They bought at Leman's because they said Leman's gave her $2K more for her trade! The wholesaler that was here that bid on her trade was the same one that bought it at Leman's. He was paying us $1,000 for it. Got it from Leman's for only $400!!!! So that means Leman's "showed" her $3K for her trade but really gave her $100 - $300 for it since they sold it to the wholesaler for only $400!!! So did the customer really get $3000??? Of course not. She just paid $3000 to much for the car she bought while being lead to believe she was getting $3K for her trade. Most dealers know most people get more hung up on what they get for their trade than what they are paying for the car they are buying. So they use that to "show" people more as over allowance which is coming off the over inflated price on the vehicle they are buying! Best way to catch a dealer doing this? Tell them you decided against buying the vehicle, but the trade seems fair so just write you a check for that amount and they can just buy your trade out right! LOL Then listen to all the excuses fly! That is the difference with us. If I show you a value on your trade, I'll write the check to buy it for that as well. No games. Real cash value based on what the vehicles are actually bringing at the sales everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShelbyDude Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Those are a couple amazing deals!! All based on his word! Yes, and I had to bribe the owner to get mine!! After he learned we were getting two, he wasn't going to let me buy the second one either. But he about fell over when he seen the $1,500 enrollment fee! LOL So the next day I walked up to him and said....You know there is a way you can get that $1,500 fee back, don't you? He says HOW???? LOL Simple! Sell the car to ME and I will pay the $1,500 on top of everything! He looks, then says....OK, you pay half that and the doctor can pay the other half! DONE!!! :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Yes, and I had to bribe the owner to get mine!! After he learned we were getting two, he wasn't going to let me buy the second one either. But he about fell over when he seen the $1,500 enrollment fee! LOL So the next day I walked up to him and said....You know there is a way you can get that $1,500 fee back, don't you? He says HOW???? LOL Simple! Sell the car to ME and I will pay the $1,500 on top of everything! He looks, then says....OK, you pay half that and the doctor can pay the other half! DONE!!! :happy feet: just my experience with leman in morton SD....others obviously have different experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfrazier70 Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 OK. I'm going to show my ignorance. What's the $1500 enrollment fee??? Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt500driver Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 just my experience with leman in morton SD....others obviously have different experience i liked your story. it was a good one. should have smacked them. makes a better story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbalouzian Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I knew I should of left my son out of this............ No he was not with me that day................. Thats how we roll in the US C annotda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Thats how we roll in the US C annotda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vbalouzian Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 On wednesday I walked in to Power ford In Valencia CA and saw that they had a white GT500 with blue stripes, I said this is the car I am looking for but with Vapor matalic and NAV, I told the sales guy if you have this car with my options and color and willing to sell at 1K over MSRP and at 5.9% call me. he said I will check on thursday and call you can you come in, I said I will be leaving for Vegas and I will be back sturday and I will come in if all conditions are met. (total timre at dealer 10 min.) Thursday I get a cal, We have your car. I said great I will see you saturday; saturday was the big Pac man fight, however I had to stop in at the dealer ship to see if they were for real. sure enough they had the car, I met the manager I said I would pull the triger right now but I am going to watch the fight a a friends house who lives 6 miles from there. The manager said no problem let me get a copy of you driver Lic, and an ok for credit check and I will deliver the car to you in 1.5-2.0 hours. I said $h!!!ttt you got a deal. (Total Time 15 Min) two hours later the car arived with the finance manager and the sales guy at the house, 8 pages signed Bamb the car was mine no BS. Now That is what I call service; after experiancing this I will not expect anything less from now on. Manager at Power for of Valencia-ary Pilikyan 23920 CREEKSIDE rOAD VALENCIA CA, 91355 661-255-6600 This is the first time that I am recomending a dealer in my life. I feel that good about them. Wort dealer to deal with in Los Angeles, GALPIN FORD, yanked my chain way too many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyguy500 Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 It sounds like you had a good week. Good luck with the car sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Wort dealer to deal with in Los Angeles, GALPIN FORD, yanked my chain way too many times ARRAGANT SELF SERVING BA DS; But they are the #1 Ford sales Dealer in the World Sorry I got caught up in your last sentance. Glad you got the car you wanted with no hasle. Ford would be much better off with Dealers that go the extra effort to please the customer. Happy cruizin, maybe see ya around the car shows or on the road :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe G Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 DDT.......Your stories make me sick....I pray that there are not too many people like you around. this will be my last response to your sickening stories...you can post as much as you want with out me coming across it. WTF??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 WTF??? And I thaught she would leave me alone after that??????????????? WRONGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 Here is the "POLITICALLY CORRECT" versians of test drive #1/2 Went to Sunrise Ford in Hollywood and test drove new GT500 Gave them reasonable offer according to Ford Corperation They declined my offer and I left the Dealer.................. Went to Montebello Ford and test drove new GT500 Gave them reasonable offer according to Ford Corperation They declined my offer and I left the Dealer.................... Hope this will not affend any members here????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharabi Posted March 26, 2008 Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 WTF??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDT Posted March 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2008 I guess some people do not appreciate how bad it is to be screwed up by someone like DDT until it happens to them. then they will get the taste of it and i do not think the comment then would be WTF.Unfortunately most of the posts that lead to my comment was censored and taken out. if you are a moderator you can go back to it and read it. Some people are too sensitive and lack sense of humor?????????????????? Also if the Moderators really read and understand my posts and humor they can see that I DID NOT THREATON ANYONE...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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