07SGT4578 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 you s/c guys be carefull with tunes and boost, remember these stock mod blocks cant handle much more than 14psi the timing in alot of aftermarket tunes add alot of timing which will cause big problems and those ugly windows in the side of your block in the winter months. i know this from experience, which is the reason the lightning only ran at 12 psi with a moderate tune. also with na or s/c tunes gas in the winter everywhere sucks and the octane rating sometimes varies and will make her go boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 you s/c guys be carefull with tunes and boost, remember these stock mod blocks cant handle much more than 14psi the timing in alot of aftermarket tunes add alot of timing which will cause big problems and those ugly windows in the side of your block in the winter months. i know this from experience, which is the reason the lightning only ran at 12 psi with a moderate tune. also with na or s/c tunes gas in the winter everywhere sucks and the octane rating sometimes varies and will make her go boom Bada Boom, Bada Bing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankieboo69 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 we all need to get together and see if we can make a discounted group purchase from brenspeed! i want one now count me in on that!!!!!!!!! B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 QUOTE(DRHVAC @ Oct 4 2007, 03:59 PM) we all need to get together and see if we can make a discounted group purchase from brenspeed! i want one now count me in on that!!!!!!!!! B) Thats a good idea........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I agree , I have seen reports from 272-280 ish as well . I don't know why he is seeing more but thats what he said . I would like to see some Shelby GT dyno sheets that show a before and after x-cal tune . It looks like to get some bigger gain you need to change out the cam and springs . Brenspeed is saying that even mild cams with springs is good for 30-40 RWHP , now thats a nice gain but its not cheap 999.00 with the springs thats really not a bad price though . Speaking of cams, Listen to these.................................. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...earch&plindex=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Lover Posted October 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 LOL , sounds cool , but a little too much lob sep for the street and <bleep> did you hear the valve train , My V6 race engine doesn't make that much noise with solid lifters . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 LOL , sounds cool , but a little too much lob sep for the street and <bleep> did you hear the valve train , My V6 race engine doesn't make that much noise with solid lifters . LOL That thing was really loping! That thing made so much valve clatter noise that it would drive me nuts (No Pun intended). That was rediculous for a street car. Maybe thats the flag ship for the company to promote thier service and such.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stump_breaker Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 LOL That thing was really loping! That thing made so much valve clatter noise that it would drive me nuts (No Pun intended). That was rediculous for a street car. Maybe thats the flag ship for the company to promote thier service and such.... I LOVE that cam lope on the car. That's exactly what my 81 Berlinetta sounded like many many years ago - naturally after pulling the v-6 and installing a balanced and blueprinted 350 from a 'Vette. What's up with that valve noise? Roller rockers and low oil pressure on the hydraulic lifters? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael10128 Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Do you have to leave it plugged in once you change your car's tune setting? I am assuming you plug it in, make the change, hit enter, unplug it...and drive I am going to order one shortly too. I just want more low end torque for quick 0-40 blasts, i like the idea of making the car run richer or leaner etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Do you have to leave it plugged in once you change your car's tune setting? I am assuming you plug it in, make the change, hit enter, unplug it...and drive I am going to order one shortly too. I just want more low end torque for quick 0-40 blasts, i like the idea of making the car run richer or leaner etc.... Plug it in, follow the screens, install the tune, it will tell you when your done, unplug and have fun................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I see everyone leaning toward the XCal2, but has anyone had experience with the Livewire? It looks like it would be a cool box to leave plugged in and "installed", since I'm assuming it logs 0-60 times, etc... Also, does it use the same SCT tune files as the XCal2? I wouldn't wanna buy "the fancy one" and find out no one supports it. Jer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riharely Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Here's an update of my process with different tunes for my SGT. Originally, I purchased a STEEDA tune with the SCT tuner. I have under drive pulleys, throttle body spacer, HT-1 plugs and hard CAI elbow, 4.10 gears, 93 octane is available in New England with 10% ethanol. The STEEDA tune really woke up the car's performance. However, there was a small "dead" spot around 2500 rpms that I became aware of as I got used to the car more. but basically, it was worth it. I decided to try out a Brenspeed tune since so many here have been satisfied. Here are my "seat of the pants dyno" impressions. I kept the tuner with me and switched back and forth several times yesterday on a stretch of road that allows me to test the car the same way each time. I found the Brenspeed tune eliminated the low rpm dead spot and felt much stronger as the car ramped up in speed. The higher end "pull" feel was about the same as the STEEDA though. 4th and 5th feel the same in the tunes. All in all, for a $75.00 e-mail tune it was worth getting rid of the hesitation in the lower rpms. If I were at a drag track then that alone would help get lower ETs. I believe they (Brenspeed) worked out the hesitation by fixing the "throttle by wire" lag that is inherent in the design from FORD. I haven’t had the new tune long enough to test gas mileage difference , if any, but I really don’t care about mileage because the car is a fun after work and weekend car, not a daily driver. So if you are starting from new, I would say get the Brenspeed tune over the STEEDA tune. -Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I will probably go steeda elbow, and SCT XCAL II after warranty is up, or maybe before. I will probably get it dyno tuned rather than going with a canned/ordered tune. Little more money but optimized to your individual car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riharely Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I will probably go steeda elbow, and SCT XCAL II after warranty is up, or maybe before. I will probably get it dyno tuned rather than going with a canned/ordered tune. Little more money but optimized to your individual car. I was told the tune was not "canned" but specifically for the Shelby GT. They have done enough of them in live tunes that all I did was give them a list of my mods , my ECM # and they made the appropriate adjustments such as CAI elbow, underdrive pulleys, etc. and then sent me the tune. To me, the performance result is good enough to know that the Brenspeed tune is not a canned tune.... other than the fact that they started with a basic SGT tune and modifyied it. Hope that helps. -Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Lover Posted October 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 I was told the tune was not "canned" but specifically for the Shelby GT. They have done enough of them in live tunes that all I did was give them a list of my mods , my ECM # and they made the appropriate adjustments such as CAI elbow, underdrive pulleys, etc. and then sent me the tune. To me, the performance result is good enough to know that the Brenspeed tune is not a canned tune.... other than the fact that they started with a basic SGT tune and modifyied it. Hope that helps. -Tim- I agree in fact I taked to them this morning , they have this down pat , there not guessing they have actually done the tunes on the products they sell . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Understand, but each car is a little different. Might not make much of a difference on most cars, but on some it may run too rich or too lean etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Earlier in this topic a few people seemed interested in making a group purchase on the sct tuner from Brenspeed, I am wanting to buy one, if anyone is interested pm me or email me and we will make a list for a week and I'll call Brenspeed and set it up. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Earlier in this topic a few people seemed interested in making a group purchase on the sct tuner from Brenspeed, I am wanting to buy one, if anyone is interested pm me or email me and we will make a list for a week and I'll call Brenspeed and set it up. Anyone? At the same time, you might want to get the upgraded air elbow? Just a thought......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankieboo69 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Earlier in this topic a few people seemed interested in making a group purchase on the sct tuner from Brenspeed, I am wanting to buy one, if anyone is interested pm me or email me and we will make a list for a week and I'll call Brenspeed and set it up. Anyone? Yes , i said count me in!!!!!!!! B) i'm still up for it ,see how many poeple we can get and how much of a discount???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I will be purchasing the steeda intake elbow, the sct tuner, and a axle back all at the same time. If you want in on this either email or PM me and i will keep a list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webba Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I would be interested as well. I havent had time to look into the elbow yet but that may be added as well. Let me know what the details are. I would prefer to have mine dyno'd but it isnt really a easy option up here to find someone so what the hell might as well go for Brentspeed. Everyone has been happy so thats good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Mark me down as interested, but don't take that as a commitment to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I would be interested as well. I havent had time to look into the elbow yet but that may be added as well. Let me know what the details are. I would prefer to have mine dyno'd but it isnt really a easy option up here to find someone so what the hell might as well go for Brentspeed. Everyone has been happy so thats good enough for me. when i purchased the elbow it was $109.00 i think............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webba Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Yea I wll have to do some posts reading on that. I recall discussing it not too long ago. If Im going to go for the tune I might as well add the elbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 BUMP " " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 bump again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankieboo69 Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 count me in again!!!!!!!! total price first before commited though , like afblue said!!! B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 we will definately have a committed price, before ordering. I just want to be able to call and say: Hey, i have ______ people to order this can we get a group buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankieboo69 Posted October 13, 2007 Report Share Posted October 13, 2007 Sounds Great!!!!!!!!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT MAN Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Group buy is an excellant idea!After speaking with brenspeed myself,They said the elbow is only cosmetic,and will add nothing to the performance,Just a thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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