AFBLUE Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Hmmm. Don't know if I agree with their assessment based on other things I've read over the years. When at full throttle, the factory tube will collapse inward and reduce airflow (saw it in a video). The rigid tubes don't do that. More airflow = more hp (when also tuned to increase fuel flow). Also less bends tends to equal less air turbulence. Ok I have just exceeded my technical expertise, but surfice it to say, I disagree with Brenspeed on this. We aren't talking a lot of difference maybe 4-8hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT MAN Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Hmmm. Don't know if I agree with their assessment based on other things I've read over there years. When at full throttle, the factory tube will collapse inward and reduce airflow (saw it in a video). The rigid tubes don't do that. More airflow = more hp (when also tuned to increase fuel flow) You make a good point!That's just what Brenspeed told me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Here's the link to Steeda. http://www.steeda.com/products/s197_inlet_tube.php They claim 8hp and 8lbs of torque. This is probably rather optimistic. I can't remember where, but I thought I read somewhere where a s197 owner did a before and after dyno with the elbow and netted 4hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT MAN Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Here's the link to Steeda. http://www.steeda.com/products/s197_inlet_tube.php They claim 8hp and 8lbs of torque. This is probably rather optimistic. I can't remember where, but I thought I read somewhere where a s197 owner did a before and after dyno with the elbow and netted 4hp. I'll have to agree that 4-8 hp + tq is a good deal at the rear wheels for $109.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFBLUE Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Researching the steeda elbow and came across this post http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpost.php...92&postcount=88 This guy claims it knocked at least .1 seconds off his 1/4 mile times http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpost.php...32&postcount=22 This SGT owner said Steeda told him he would need a tune if he installed the elbow. If brenspeed doesnt' think it makes any difference then they probably don't have a tune that would maximize performance with the elbow attached. Maybe there is no need for a different tune but I would want to be sure. http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpost.php...2&postcount=108 I dunno guys. I'm gonna bow out if brenspeed doesn't see much benefit to the elbow. Not trying to poo-poo on this endeavor, but my plan has been and will be to get a SCT XCAL II and elbow, and take it to a local reputable dyno tuner, and have my car optimally tuned. That way there is no question that I've got the best tune for my setup/car. A little more expensive, but worth my peace of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamRide Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Hmmm. Don't know if I agree with their assessment based on other things I've read over the years. When at full throttle, the factory tube will collapse inward and reduce airflow (saw it in a video). The rigid tubes don't do that. More airflow = more hp (when also tuned to increase fuel flow). Also less bends tends to equal less air turbulence. Ok I have just exceeded my technical expertise, but surfice it to say, I disagree with Brenspeed on this. We aren't talking a lot of difference maybe 4-8hp. I would have to agree with you on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Lover Posted October 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Increase flow would be picked up by the mass air meter , and the correct fuel would be added by the computer . So no tune is needed , all it cares about is keeping the A/F where the tune has it mapped .This would be simular to one day its 85* outside and then a cold front comes through and lowers the temp to 40* outside , the colder air is more dense but the computer adjust for it , thats why it feels so much peppier on the cooler days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Brenspeed tuner group buy list: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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