HSURB Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Does anyone know offhand what is the cubic inch size the 5.4 engine? I'm sure it's a simple answer that has been posted before. Thanks in advance. HSURB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07 SHELBY Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Does anyone know offhand what is the cubic inch size the 5.4 engine? I'm sure it's a simple answer that has been posted before. Thanks in advance. HSURB 330 c i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSURB Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 330 c i Thanks, HSURB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07 SHELBY Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Thanks, HSURB You are welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO-GT500 Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 329.528 218 112 cubic inches you wanted the real answer didn't you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSURB Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 329.528 218 112 cubic inches you wanted the real answer didn't you Wow, I'm going to have to modify this to get it back over 330 C.I. HSURB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO-GT500 Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Wow, I'm going to have to modify this to get it back over 330 C.I. HSURB us darn engineers screw everything up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 330 c i or 5,409 cc's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSURB Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 What you up to? You coming around to mess up my thread? HSURB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCMO-GT500 Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 or 5,409 cc's If your number is the accurate one based on bore and stroke, then the engine is really around 330.1 cubic inches. is 5.4 then false advertising? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Oh B Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 1 Liter = 61.025 Cubic Inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 ................... 1 cubic foot .......... 1728 cubic inches 5.4 liters × ------------------ × --------------------- = 328.86 cubic inches ................... 28.32 liters ........... 1 cubic foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 1 Liter = 61.025 Cubic Inches 61.023744 but who really cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSURB Posted October 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 Time for me to head out to a little sports bar, throw back a few beers and watch a little college football. Lets see if Kansas University can make it to 8-0. HSURB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhujangasana Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 331, pleassse. I want a 427 big block :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtkeith Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 CO PILOT must have been mad at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasShelby Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 331, pleassse. I want a 427 big block :happy feet: And make mine a side oiler please. :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orf Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 5.409L = 330.077 cubic inches = 365.800 Tbsp = 1097.400 Tsp. The Tablespoon and Teaspoon conversions are for the chefs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 5.409L = 330.077 cubic inches = 365.800 Tbsp = 1097.400 Tsp. The Tablespoon and Teaspoon conversions are for the chefs out there. I knew you were cooking something up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txcobra Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Let me see if i can stir the pot a bit....what does the blower "add" in displacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orf Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Let me see if i can stir the pot a bit....what does the blower "add" in displacement? Is this a trick question? I'll throw my answer in, assuming you are asking seriously. The short answer: It adds nothing to displacement. The long answer: Displacement is found by taking the bore (area of the cross-section of the cylindrical hole in the block) x the stroke (the distance the piston travels inside said hole) x the number of cylinders in the block (a unitless factor). Area x length = volume, which is why displacement is given as a volume. The blower does not change anything that determines displacement. What the blower does change is how much air is forced into that volume. PV=nRT is about as basic a law for gases as there is. P = pressure, V = volume, n = number of moles of gas (air in this case - technically air/fuel mixture), R = the Universal Gas Constant, and T = temperature. Since a mole of gas contains 6.023x10 to the 23rd power (can't figure out superscript here) atoms of gas, it might be easier to think in terms of atoms. So this formula can also be written as PV=NkT, where N = the number of atoms of gas, and k = Boltzmann's Constant. In our case, we have determined that volume is constant. So the only variable on the left side is pressure. Boltzmann's Constant is obviously a constant (call me Captain Obvious), so the variables on the right side are the number of atoms of gas and the temperature of that gas. The blower can cause one, or usually both, of the right side variables to increase, which in turn causes the pressure to increase. Therefore the blower causes an increase in pressure, not displacement. Which is why Ford spent all that money to put a gauge on your dash indicating boost pressure. Wow. I didn't think all those High School Physics and College weed-out courses found a home in my brain. Mr. Bowers would be proud. Now I'll wait for Dan to wander in and shoot that explanation down. ***EDIT: Typos*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07 SHELBY Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Is this a trick question? I'll throw my answer in, assuming you are asking seriously. The short answer: It adds nothing to displacement. The long answer: Displacement is found by taking the bore (area of the cross-section of the cylindrical hole in the block) x the stroke (the distance the piston travels inside said hole) x the number of cylinders in the block (a unitless factor). Area x length = volume, which is why displacement is given as a volume. The blower does not change anything that determines displacement. What the blower does change is how much air is forced into that volume. PV=nRT is about as basic a law for gases as there is. P = pressure, V = volume, n = number of moles of gas (air in this case - technically air/fuel mixture), R = the Universal Gas Constant, and T = temperature. Since a mole of gas contains 6.023x10 to the 23rd power (can't figure out superscript here) atoms of gas, it might be easier to think in terms of atoms. So this formula can also be written as PV=NkT, where N = the number of atoms of gas, and k = Boltzmann's Constant. In our case, we have determined that volume is constant. So the only variable on the left side is pressure. Boltzmann's Constant is obviously a constant (call me Captain Obvious), so the variables on the right side are the number of atoms of gas and the temperature of that gas. The blower can cause one, or usually both, of the right side variables to increase, which in turn causes the pressure to increase. Therefore the blower causes an increase in pressure, not displacement. Which is why Ford spent all that money to put a gauge on your dash indicating boost pressure. Wow. I didn't think all those High School Physics and College weed-out courses found a home in my brain. Mr. Bowers would be proud. Now I'll wait for Dan to wander in and shoot that explanation down. ***EDIT: Typos*** Wow is it snowing in PA.?You have way to much free time.Your answer is good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
150man Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Maybe he was asking how much volume would the supercharged air take up, if its pressure were reduced to atmospheric. For example, maybe 5.4L of air at 8 lbs of pressure would be equivalent to 7.5L at atmospheric pressure, or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Is 5.4 a Big block or Small block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orf Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Maybe he was asking how much volume would the supercharged air take up, if its pressure were reduced to atmospheric. For example, maybe 5.4L of air at 8 lbs of pressure would be equivalent to 7.5L at atmospheric pressure, or something along those lines. Also, the compressed air would have an elevated temperature, so not only would you have to factor the pressure reduction, but also a temperature reduction. I understand what you're saying, though, and it would be easy to calculate. As long as we had IATs with and without blower, and a boost gauge reading for the blower - although we could assume 8.5 psi at WOT. I took his question literally, which is why I said the displacement isn't affected by the blower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orf Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Is 5.4 a Big block or Small block I'll probably get killed on this one. My guess is it's a small block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Is this a trick question? I'll throw my answer in, assuming you are asking seriously. The short answer: It adds nothing to displacement. The long answer: Displacement is found by taking the bore (area of the cross-section of the cylindrical hole in the block) x the stroke (the distance the piston travels inside said hole) x the number of cylinders in the block (a unitless factor). Area x length = volume, which is why displacement is given as a volume. The blower does not change anything that determines displacement. What the blower does change is how much air is forced into that volume. PV=nRT is about as basic a law for gases as there is. P = pressure, V = volume, n = number of moles of gas (air in this case - technically air/fuel mixture), R = the Universal Gas Constant, and T = temperature. Since a mole of gas contains 6.023x10 to the 23rd power (can't figure out superscript here) atoms of gas, it might be easier to think in terms of atoms. So this formula can also be written as PV=NkT, where N = the number of atoms of gas, and k = Boltzmann's Constant. In our case, we have determined that volume is constant. So the only variable on the left side is pressure. Boltzmann's Constant is obviously a constant (call me Captain Obvious), so the variables on the right side are the number of atoms of gas and the temperature of that gas. The blower can cause one, or usually both, of the right side variables to increase, which in turn causes the pressure to increase. Therefore the blower causes an increase in pressure, not displacement. Which is why Ford spent all that money to put a gauge on your dash indicating boost pressure. Wow. I didn't think all those High School Physics and College weed-out courses found a home in my brain. Mr. Bowers would be proud. Now I'll wait for Dan to wander in and shoot that explanation down. ***EDIT: Typos*** +1 ORF I`am sure Dan will agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alloy Dave Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 I'll probably get killed on this one. My guess is it's a small block. Anyone who knows Avagadro's number is a geek. that includes me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpretzel Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 Anyone who knows Avagadro's number is a geek. that includes me. 6.022 x 10^23 The one and only thing I remember from high school chemistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orf Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 6.022 x 10^23 The one and only thing I remember from high school chemistry. I know, but there should be a way to superscript the "23". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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