svt13 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 blahhh so now you all got me thinking I need to replace the JLT for this one even though that one is plug and play which I like. Ok so couple questions does this touch the valve cover or strut tower brace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy49 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Here is another oil separator. Moroso Air-Oil Separators Video Article Moroso’s Air-Oil Separator In Action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Here is another oil separator. Moroso Air-Oil Separators Video Article Moroso’s Air-Oil Separator In Action No more oil separators!! just noticed thats the one my mechanic has on his old 5.0 liter turbo mustang. The LX I think they were called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 blahhh so now you all got me thinking I need to replace the JLT for this one even though that one is plug and play which I like. Ok so couple questions does this touch the valve cover or strut tower brace? ANY oil separator is better than *no* oil separator. It does appear one is superior to the other though. Notice that I don't have one...yet. But only because I'm lazy. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy49 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I wonder why Shelby in Las Vegas doesn't use them on any of their cars? They don't even offer one for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 ANY oil separator is better than *no* oil separator. It does appear one is superior to the other though. Notice that I don't have one...yet. But only because I'm lazy. Phill Thats why the JLT one is good. Takes all of 20 seconds to install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I wonder why Shelby in Las Vegas doesn't use them on any of their cars? They don't even offer one for sale. They probably don't find it neccessary since cars now a days are pretty clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I wonder why Shelby in Las Vegas doesn't use them on any of their cars? They don't even offer one for sale. Shelby has one in the R&D stage. There is a thread on it with Robert Lane saying it's in the works. And they actually *do* use one, on the Shelby 1000. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy49 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Phil I just looked at the Shelby 1000 brochure and it shows JLT's on both sides. I noticed that on the Moroso website, that they list a couple of oil separators for the Roush mustangs. I wonder if Roush uses one on their cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Phil I just looked at the Shelby 1000 brochure and it shows JLT's on both sides. I noticed that on the Moroso website, that they list a couple of oil separators for the Roush mustangs. I wonder if Roush uses one on their cars? I don't think the Roush cars use one but they might on the Stage 3 (supercharged version). They gave me a brand new Roush Stage 2 for a loaner when I had my truck in but I dindn't look much under the hood and since a Stage 2 is all handing upgrades, i kind'a doubt they'd put one on anyway. Stage 3 is the handling, body/aero and performance upgrades. The JLT's in the brochure aren't what they use on the production cars and not what Shelby will be selling, from what Robert Lane has been saying. You can see the thread in teh Shelby Perf. Parts section, pretty far up on the list (someone just made a comment on it). Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy49 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 The Shelby 1000 must be the exception to the rule, I didn't see any other SAI cars with an oil separator. Having said that, I will probably go with either the Moroso or the Bob's, I just need to do some further research. I definitely believe there is a legitimate requirement for the separator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious_stang Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 im definitely getting a oil separator, and if you only get one, get the passenger side one...seems most of the oil collects over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy49 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 The reason there is no oil in the drivers side is because the drivers side supplies filtered air to the engine block through the drivers side valve cover fitting. This air is then pulled through the engine block and is sucked out through the PCV valve on the passenger side valve cover by the supercharger. The same thing happens with a normally aspirated engine, just at a lower vacuum. The PCV valve is actually a one-way check valve, it only allows air flow from the engine side to the supercharger or intake manifold and blocks the flow of air into the crankcase.. I wonder if the oil residue found on some of the intake components is from an oil type air cleaner like the K&N? PCV = Positive Crankcase Ventilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010 Grabber Blue Shelby Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Not going to touch my 2013. Nothing works as well as the factory, where all components are properly matched and tested. Learned my lesson on my prev car to not mess with success and the 2013 is success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Not going to touch my 2013. Nothing works as well as the factory, where all components are properly matched and tested. Learned my lesson on my prev car to not mess with success and the 2013 is success. thats another reason why i go with jlt. It doesnt mess with the stock set up., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Not going to touch my 2013. Nothing works as well as the factory, where all components are properly matched and tested. Learned my lesson on my prev car to not mess with success and the 2013 is success. I'll just do the oil separator. I've seen that thing work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Alibi 2 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 It's been on over a year, does what it's supposed to do, can see when it needs to be emptied...........................& didn't cost $ 110.00. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 question about the resonator delete. Will it change any other sounds that we hear? I will order the carbon fiber stock tube from JLT instead of resonator delete because it looks ugly but I only want to hear the supercharger since I don't really hear it at all now. But if it makes other engine noises louder then I do not want that. Can anyone chime in on this? thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Reso delete just enhances the SC sound a bit. Does nothing else sound-wise. Looks are subjective but I think the FRPP reso delete looks more OEM than the jlt. and it's a lot cheaper. I'll probably sell the reso delete with the TVS to make it a complete kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy49 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I will order the carbon fiber stock tube from JLT instead of resonator delete because it looks ugly but I only want to hear the supercharger since I don't really hear it at all now. Are you sure that the one JLT sells is not a resonator delete tube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Are you sure that the one JLT sells is not a resonator delete tube? It's essential that but made from carbon fiber. The ford racing resonator delete tube looks weird while it does look more stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious_stang Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 right the JLT tube serves same purpose, but better. Also looks better and fit is better. Will add even more sound and response to throttle because its less restrictive than the stock resonator and the FRPP delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 right the JLT tube serves same purpose, but better. Also looks better and fit is better. Will add even more sound and response to throttle because its less restrictive than the stock resonator and the FRPP delete LOL....Nooooo, not quite. The JLT tube is no better or worse than the Ford Racing resonator delete tube. They are both the same other than the material they are made out of. Niether one gives you any more sound than the other and the JLT isn't going to give you ANY better performance, throttle response or sound than any other delete tube made. Period. The JLT tube is just a resonator delete tube made out of carbon fiber. The OEM intake resonator and the FRPP resonator delete tube are not "restrictive", at least not more restrictive than a JLT tube OR any other aftermarket tube. The Air Filter element is the biggest restriction in the system. You will gain NO flow advantage with either the JLT OR the FRPP tubes. The aftermarket tubes will just lighten your pocket by quadruple over the FRPP tube, that's about the only difference. I don't care what the advertising hype says, there is nothing scientific to show otherwise. Personally, I feel that if having the tube look like carbon fiber is your issue, get a FRPP delete tube hydrocarbon coated and you'll still be money ahead. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 LOL....Nooooo, not quite. The JLT tube is no better or worse than the Ford Racing resonator delete tube. They are both the same other than the material they are made out of. Niether one gives you any more sound than the other and the JLT isn't going to give you ANY better performance, throttle response or sound than any other delete tube made. Period. The JLT tube is just a resonator delete tube made out of carbon fiber. The OEM intake resonator and the FRPP resonator delete tube are not "restrictive", at least not more restrictive than a JLT tube OR any other aftermarket tube. The Air Filter element is the biggest restriction in the system. You will gain NO flow advantage with either the JLT OR the FRPP tubes. The aftermarket tubes will just lighten your pocket by quadruple over the FRPP tube, that's about the only difference. I don't care what the advertising hype says, there is nothing scientific to show otherwise. Personally, I feel that if having the tube look like carbon fiber is your issue, get a FRPP delete tube hydrocarbon coated and you'll still be money ahead. Phill Hydrocrabon looks bad and fake though. I talked with van he said the resonator delete and jlt tube didn't really make the supercharger any louder. He said a new throttle body woke the car up and then you could hear the supercharger scream. I think due to the quiet nature of the TVS a more extreme measure like a throttle body and resonator delete are necessary. But yea the JLT tube is exactly like a resonator delete no better no worse. I just rather have it because personally I like carbon fiber. But not worth getting apparently if your goal is to make the supercharger louder you need to pair with throttle body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devious_stang Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 ill let you know when I get it on...if I need a throttle body later, so be it....little by little...car is a beast at it sits though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010KonaBlueGT Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 ill let you know when I get it on...if I need a throttle body later, so be it....little by little...car is a beast at it sits though A throttle body will make a big difference. At least it will on earlier models. I'm not sure if the '13 uses a lager TB or not. I suspect it does but.... If they put a larger TB on the '13, it won't make as much difference as a '12 or earlier. If they used the same size TB, the potential is there for a big increase. One that you WILL feel in the seat of your pants. EDIT: I said the intake tube is not a restriction. The Throtte Body *IS*, which is why you will see a performance increase with a larger one. Phill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I think the throttle body is the same given how tubes from 10-12s can fit the 13. I think van sells the ford racing and cobra jet throttle bodies. The one he used on his I believe is cobra jet one which is oval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 If you're going to go with a larger intake (127 mm for example) and tune to match, then a larger throttle body will benefit you. If you're staying with a stock maf then you're wasting your money on a larger TB. The stock 60mm flows quite well with the stock set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted July 1, 2012 Report Share Posted July 1, 2012 LOL...No it won't! The mod bug is resistant to all medications and it's a never ending sickness. Don't ask me how I know! Phill +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Alibi 2 Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 The 2013 uses a twin 60mm T/B. ( like the 2011 & 2012 ) . FRPP markets a twin 65mm, ( M-9926-CJ65 ) & a mono-blade, ( M-9926-SCJ ), both are mgf. by Accufab. The mono-blade, ( 65mm x 147mm ), was good for 15 hp on my car which had a custom tune.....The T/B is fed by a 123mm air tube, custom MAF housing, & custom AFE air filter. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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