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Mark - you and Dude are going to pay higher taxes. I'm guessing neither of you really want to. Though you don't mind as much as he does. All of his arguments are irrelevant - even to him. He simply poses these arguments to the base masses - as the Republican party and its supporters do. All he really cares about in the end - is simply his money.

 

Again - there's the party of the selfless - and the party of the selfish.

 

 

Wrong Johnboy!

 

What I care about is our freedom and protecting what is left of our constitution.

 

All you seem to care about is spewing democratic rehtoric and ignoring the facts.

 

BTW....as I said a number of times before, I am not a republican nor a democrat. I could careless about party.

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Dear Fellow Business Owners

 

As a Business owner who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barack Obama

will be our next President and that my Taxes and Fees will go up in a BIG way.

 

To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Customer will have to see an increase in my

fees to them of about 8%. I will also have to lay off 6 of my employees. This really bothered me as

I believe we are family here and didn't know how to choose who will have to go. So this is what I did. I strolled thru the parking lot and found 8 Obama bumper stickers on my employees cars. I have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off.

 

I can't think of another fair way to approach this problem. If you have a better idea, let me know.

I am sending this letter to all Business owners that I know.

 

Sincerely

......

 

 

How about honoring seniority or better yet, keep the most productive employees instead of punishing

them for who they vote for?????????????????????

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How about honoring seniority or better yet, keep the most productive employees instead of punishing

them for who they vote for?????????????????????

 

You miss the point.....the point he is trying to make is that Hussein's policies will raise taxes, decrease expending and create inflation........as such, he has to raise his prices to customers and lower cost. #1 cost in all corporations is EMPLOYMENT COST, so he has to cut that as well, and he chose to do so by terminating those folks who were in favor teh candiadte who will bring this upom us. Kind of, be responsible for teh consequences of your actions!

 

What's wrong with that?

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How about honoring seniority or better yet, keep the most productive employees instead of punishing

them for who they vote for?????????????????????

 

 

O you mean like the UNIONS R doing :hysterical:

 

punishing those who do not vote Obama.

 

I think you ment to say Keep the ones with less seniority :hysterical::hysterical:

 

That would be the Obama way.

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You miss the point.....the point he is trying to make is that Hussein's policies will raise taxes, decrease expending and create inflation........as such, he has to raise his prices to customers and lower cost. #1 cost in all corporations is EMPLOYMENT COST, so he has to cut that as well, and he chose to do so by terminating those folks who were in favor teh candiadte who will bring this upom us. Kind of, be responsible for teh consequences of your actions!

 

What's wrong with that?

 

If that is the way he thinks than he would be doing his most productive employees that support

Obama a favor by letting them go.....................................

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If that is the way he thinks than he would be doing his most productive employees that support

Obama a favor by letting them go.....................................

 

A favor? How's that? You see, no one will be hiring!

 

Oh, now I get it, those unemployed will be staying home getting some of the REDISTRIBUTION of wealth Hussein is talking about. Is that what you meant?

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A favor? How's that? You see, no one will be hiring!

 

Oh, now I get it, those unemployed will be staying home getting some of the REDISTRIBUTION of wealth Hussein is talking about. Is that what you meant?

 

 

Fact is I would not descriminate against a productive employee over their right to vote their own

choosing...........................We still have "FREE ELECTIONS"............................

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Fact is I would not descriminate against a productive employee over their right to vote their own

choosing...........................We still have "FREE ELECTIONS"............................

 

the way the post was presented and the "choosing" process is not descriminatory in itself. However, I do agree that it is not the proper way to handle the situation.

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:headscratch::headscratch::headscratch:

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Sz9TBAwCMo

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6VZkVKbTcg...feature=related

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Ccm608U8A...feature=related

 

 

 

 

Wayne Perryman

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6F1qZE0DOY

 

 

 

Democrat Party

 

http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/3554.html

 

 

everything in this world is just azz backwards.. *sigh*

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Mark - you and Dude are going to pay higher taxes. I'm guessing neither of you really want to. Though you don't mind as much as he does. All of his arguments are irrelevant - even to him. He simply poses these arguments to the base masses - as the Republican party and its supporters do. All he really cares about in the end - is simply his money.

 

Again - there's the party of the selfless - and the party of the selfish.

 

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: How was that pumpkin patch?

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The funny thing is - the GDP and consumers do better under Democratic administrations as opposed to Republican. We make more and spend more when Democrats are in the White House. Happy Days are here again.

 

Based on what, Clinton? Working on that premise since Carter was a F'n disaster...did 9/11 happen while Clinton was in office? Did the Dot-bomb that Clinton's policies foster, (I believe you were the one who said inaction = deregulation), go off while Clinton was in office?

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I think you meant "sdrawkcab-ssa"! :hysterical:

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You miss the point.....the point he is trying to make is that Hussein's policies will raise taxes, decrease expending and create inflation........as such, he has to raise his prices to customers and lower cost. #1 cost in all corporations is EMPLOYMENT COST, so he has to cut that as well, and he chose to do so by terminating those folks who were in favor teh candiadte who will bring this upom us. Kind of, be responsible for teh consequences of your actions!

 

What's wrong with that?

 

 

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2008/08/21/...-fiscal-policy/

 

Guess how many Nobel Laureates in Economics have endorsed McCain....

 

Enough said. :lurk:

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Dude - these guys have no idea what Keynesian economics is...

 

For me that's certainly true. But I do understand that companies don't pay taxes - they just pass them on to the consumer of their goods and services. The middle class is the main consumer of goods and services: therefore, the middle class is the ones paying the company's taxes. What's so hard about understanding that?

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Here is some excellent reading that will put most of the pieces together about the REAL Barack Obama!

 

This is very long but well worth reading if you want a look into the life of the real Obama. You will see what his entire life and up bringing was which is still his true beliefs to this day.

 

The Obama you see campaigning is just a wolf in sheeps clothing!

 

After reading through all this there should be no doubt in anyone's mind who the real Obama really is!

 

I just came across this today and this has a lot of the same things in it that I have been trying to say that I had learned from doing my own research. This here just sums it all up for anyone wanting the truth.

 

Anyone that is still acting like they are under the influence of the kool-aid after reading through all this, well then you must be someone that shares these same beliefs. Otherwise there is no possible way anyone can have any doubts left!

 

Enjoy!

 

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_s...ould-stanl.html

 

 

"YES WE CAN"

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Twas the night before elections

And all through the town

Tempers were flaring

Emotions all up and down!

 

I, in my bathrobe

With a cat in my lap

Had cut off the TV

Tired of political cr@p.

 

When all of a sudden

There arose such a noise

I peered out of my window

Saw Obama and his boys

 

They had come for my wallet

They wanted my pay

To give to the others

Who had not worked a day!

 

He snatched up my money

And quick as a wink

Jumped back on his bandwagon

As I gagged from the stink

 

He then rallied his henchmen

Who were pulling his cart

I could tell they were out

To tear my country apart!

 

‘On Fannie, on Freddie,

On Biden and Ayers!

On Acorn, On Pelosi’

He screamed at the pairs!

 

They took off for his cause

And as he flew out of sight

I heard him laugh at the nation

Who wouldn’t stand up and fight!

 

So I leave you to think

On this one final note-

IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM

GET OUT AND VOTE

 

:hysterical:

 

 

"YES WE CAN"

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I got this from another Forum and thought I would pass it on because I just heard a "New To Me" Commercial for Obama where he states that he wants to help you keep your Guns............... WOW.....talk about Flip Flopping...............

 

 

 

Not just for carry or self defense, but do you like being able to own them period?

 

This was taken from http://www.gunbanobama.com/ which is an NRA-ILA project, and it is available in PDF form at: http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/2008Obamafactsht.pdf

 

FACT: Barack Obama opposes four of the five Supreme Court justices who affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms. He voted against the confirmation of Alito and Roberts and he has stated he would not have appointed Thomas or Scalia.17

 

FACT: Barack Obama voted for an Illinois State Senate bill to ban and confiscate "assault weapons," but the bill was so poorly crafted, it would have also banned most semi-auto and single and double barrel shotguns commonly used by sportsmen.18

 

FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1

 

FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15

 

FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3

 

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9

 

FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4

 

FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people who use firearms in self-defense.5

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6

 

FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.

 

FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7

 

FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and "research."8

 

FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9

 

FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10

 

FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11

 

FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9

 

FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

 

1. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 219, July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00219)

 

2. Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, Sept. 9, 1996. The responses on this survey were described in "Obama had greater role on liberal survey," Politico, March 31, 2008. (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/9269.html)

 

3. United States Senate, S. 397, vote number 217, Kennedy amendment July 29, 2005. (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=1&vote=00217)

 

4. David Wright, Ursula Fahy and Sunlen Miller, "Obama: 'Common Sense Regulation' On Gun Owners' Rights," ABC News' "Political Radar" Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, 2/15/08. (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...common-se.html)

 

5. Illinois Senate, SB 2165, March 25, 2004, vote 20 and May 25, 2004, vote 3.

 

6. "Fact Check: No News In Obama's Consistent Record." Obama '08, December 11, 2007. (http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck...n_obamas_c.php)

 

7. "Candidates' gun control positions may figure in Pa. vote," Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Wednesday, April 2, 2008, and "Keyes, Obama Are Far Apart On Guns," Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt.../s_560181.html)

 

8. 1998 Joyce Foundation Annual Report, p. 7.

 

9. "Obama and Gun Control," The Volokh Conspiracy, taken from the Chicago Defender, Dec. 13, 1999. (http://www.volokh.com/posts/1203389334.shtml)

 

10. Illinois Senate, May 5, 2002, SB 1936 Con., vote 26.

 

11. Illinois Senate, March 25, 2003, SB 2163, vote 18.

 

12. "Clinton, Edwards, Obama on gun control," Radio Iowa, Sunday, April 22, 2007. (http://learfield.typepad.com/radioio...n_edwards.html)

 

13. Chicago Tribune blogs, "Barack Obama: NIU Shootings call for action," February 15, 2008, (http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/b..._on_shoot.html)

 

14. Barack Obama campaign website: "As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment . . ." (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/ur...aw-enforcement.)

 

15. Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes (http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Bara...un_Control.htm and http://www.ontheissues.org/IL_2004_Senate_3rd.htm) Oct 21, 2004.

 

16. Illinois Senate, May 16, 2003, HB 2579, vote 34.

 

17. United States Senate vote 245, September 29, 2005 and vote 2, January 31, 2006 and Saddleback Forum, August 16, 2008.

 

18. Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. To see the vote tally go to: http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf.

 

"YES WE CAN"

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