RUFDRAFT Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I just did! And I'm a gramp's 4 times over! But I can still cut a better light than You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGT500 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 If you don't vote in any Presidential or Local elections when it's time, then you have absolutly no voice or right to complain about the curent local/state/USA problems. what your doing is leaving it up to the rest of us to pick the lesser of the 2 or 3 eveils when given a choice. May I suggest you go stay in China or some other country for awhile where the people don't have any rights & then come back here to the Good Old USA where you have freedom & the right to vote. You might want to use some country other than China in your example. The USA is becoming more and more like China everyday. For example, in China the government owns the banks. In the USA the government owns the banks that go under. Also, in China the wealthy party members get richer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 You might want to use some country other than China in your example. The USA is becoming more and more like China everyday. For example, in China the government owns the banks. In the USA the government owns the banks that go under. Also, in China the wealthy party members get richer. Does a middle class worker in China drive a car? What's the average sq.ft. of their house? Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGT500 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Does a middle class worker in China drive a car? What's the average sq.ft. of their house? Etc. We should be more concerned with the vanishing middle class in this country. It looks to me like the economy of China is growing much more rapidly than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdwaterHotrod Posted September 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Let's see when I was their the workers in the plant made $2.50 a day, had to walk, ride a train, bicycle or even a moped in any combination to get to work & only the rich owned cars over their. yeah that sounds the USA alright....NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSGT500 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Let's see when I was their the workers in the plant made $2.50 a day, had to walk, ride a train, bicycle or even a moped in any combination to get to work & only the rich owned cars over their. yeah that sounds the USA alright....NOT The similarity is in the banks. In China, the government owns all the banks. That's the direction we are headed in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 I bet we'll see more of these topics once the debates begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffIsHereToo Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 We should be more concerned with the vanishing middle class in this country. It looks to me like the economy of China is growing much more rapidly than ours. China is killing its people and its future. They are growing at the expense of the environment and the health and safety of their people. They're economy is based upon exports not consumption where the people making good can't afford to buy them. This means as they rob more of the world's jobs using unfair practices, and as the other world economies, such as the US have issues, China's fortunes will quickly change with no one buying the goods they sell. In the meantime they will have killed their lakes and streams, their air will be polluted, and all those big factories will begin to close for lack of buyers. China's economy is built on a house of cards...and in doing what it is to other economies it's biting the hand that feeds it and sowing the seeds of it's own economic stumble. IMHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss Doctor Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Does a middle class worker in China drive a car? What's the average sq.ft. of their house? Etc. They just put playing cards in their spokes, and pretend! My wife did a research paper about ethics in China for Senior Seminar, and uncovered a lot about business practices over there. Deplorable, to say the least. They have an ungodly amount of people dying every year over there from pollution from the factories, and nothing to keep the workers safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69dejavue Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 They just put playing cards in their spokes, and pretend! My wife did a research paper about ethics in China for Senior Seminar, and uncovered a lot about business practices over there. Deplorable, to say the least. They have an ungodly amount of people dying every year over there from pollution from the factories, and nothing to keep the workers safe. I saw a special on television about an engineer from the US that went to China to establish an off-shore oil drilling rig. They got the rig established but were told they must use Chineese labor on the rig once built. So they brought peasants on board and the engineer said we must conduct safety classes and they must have the proper safety equipment, including steel toed boots. The Chineese liaison said the Chineese would work as they were equipped, and bare foot. The engineer said I don't want to see someone lose a foot. The Chineese liaison said China has many feet. Implying that they will just replace the injured workers with another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubbsFaris Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Hmm, imagine what kind of production I could get with no minimum wage and no OSHA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Yoda Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I'm tired of the same folks creating BS threads about each canidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_quik_pony Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 http://www.goptrunk.com/ProductDetails.asp...uctCode=TSR2783bikers for McCain shirt $15.00, but at checkout for $25.00. I hope everything he says is not falsly represented like the t-shirts. Down to $5...free by Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_quik_pony Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Hmm, imagine what kind of production I could get with no minimum wage and no OSHA... Worked for me! Just don't let the bodies pile up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YZD263 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I sometime go over some of these political threads but mostly, I stick to car topics. I' can't say that I'm "tired" of these threads per se; after all, if I don't like or am not interested in a thread, I'm not forced to read it. However, the sheer number of these political threads, on a car site, surprises me quite a bit, as does the level of passion (sometime even hatred) displayed by some on both side of the political spectrum. As someone looking at this election from the outside, it is certainly not for me to pass judgement on either of the two candidates. I don't feel that I'm qualified to do so. However, we recently had a Canadian election and I don't remember seeing threads about it on any Canadian car site that I visited during the campaign. I guess it shows a different level of interest (and passion) for politics between Americans and Cannadians. That being said, although passion can be a good thing, it can also be a divisive one. What unites most of us and brought us here in the first place is our love for a common car brand and the man behind it, our deisre to learn more about these cars, share our own ownership experience and ultimately make new friends. Based on the few political threads that I looked at on this site, the tone is generally quite nasty, even agressive. I find it sad to see in a sense, as there is nothing to be gained by anyone in these types of arguments. Those who are strongly for or against a candidate won't be swayed in their political beliefs by these threads, so what's the point starting them? What's being accomplished by these threads at the end besides some hurt feelings? I know all about free speech but because someone has a right to say something does not mean saying it is always the best thing to do under the circumstances. Maybe I'm just missing something here but that's my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingCobra666 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Am I tired of them? Sure, particualry the ugly crap spouted by a few. Do I think they should be allowed? I say YES, because its a free country and stating political points are important, even on this site, as long as its kept in the off topic area. If it gets into the other areas I say melt 'em. KC666 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafsfreak Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I sometime go over some of these political threads but mostly, I stick to car topics. I' can't say that I'm "tired" of these threads per se; after all, if I don't like or am not interested in a thread, I'm not forced to read it. However, the sheer number of these political threads, on a car site, surprises me quite a bit, as does the level of passion (sometime even hatred) displayed by some on both side of the political spectrum. As someone looking at this election from the outside, it is certainly not for me to pass judgement on either of the two candidates. I don't feel that I'm qualified to do so. However, we recently had a Canadian election and I don't remember seeing threads about it on any Canadian car site that I visited during the campaign. I guess it shows a different level of interest (and passion) for politics between Americans and Cannadians. That being said, although passion can be a good thing, it can also be a divisive one. What unites most of us and brought us here in the first place is our love for a common car brand and the man behind it, our deisre to learn more about these cars, share our own ownership experience and ultimately make new friends. Based on the few political threads that I looked at on this site, the tone is generally quite nasty, even agressive. I find it sad to see in a sense, as there is nothing to be gained by anyone in these types of arguments. Those who are strongly for or against a candidate won't be swayed in their political beliefs by these threads, so what's the point starting them? What's being accomplished by these threads at the end besides some hurt feelings? I know all about free speech but because someone has a right to say something does not mean saying it is always the best thing to do under the circumstances. Maybe I'm just missing something here but that's my opinion. Well said!!! (Just another Canuck oint of view) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I sometime go over some of these political threads but mostly, I stick to car topics. I' can't say that I'm "tired" of these threads per se; after all, if I don't like or am not interested in a thread, I'm not forced to read it. However, the sheer number of these political threads, on a car site, surprises me quite a bit, as does the level of passion (sometime even hatred) displayed by some on both side of the political spectrum. As someone looking at this election from the outside, it is certainly not for me to pass judgement on either of the two candidates. I don't feel that I'm qualified to do so. However, we recently had a Canadian election and I don't remember seeing threads about it on any Canadian car site that I visited during the campaign. I guess it shows a different level of interest (and passion) for politics between Americans and Cannadians. That being said, although passion can be a good thing, it can also be a divisive one. What unites most of us and brought us here in the first place is our love for a common car brand and the man behind it, our deisre to learn more about these cars, share our own ownership experience and ultimately make new friends. Based on the few political threads that I looked at on this site, the tone is generally quite nasty, even agressive. I find it sad to see in a sense, as there is nothing to be gained by anyone in these types of arguments. Those who are strongly for or against a candidate won't be swayed in their political beliefs by these threads, so what's the point starting them? What's being accomplished by these threads at the end besides some hurt feelings? I know all about free speech but because someone has a right to say something does not mean saying it is always the best thing to do under the circumstances. Maybe I'm just missing something here but that's my opinion. You're missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500KR Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I haven't been on much lately but I got to say, the political threads are getting numerous,it is a political season so I don't mind.Besides isn't that what this country is founded on"free forums" LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tispco Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I can't wait for this election to be over. I am really tired of it. Especially on forums like this one. This forum is about CARS, specifically SHELBY's!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtkeith Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I sometime go over some of these political threads but mostly, I stick to car topics. I' can't say that I'm "tired" of these threads per se; after all, if I don't like or am not interested in a thread, I'm not forced to read it. However, the sheer number of these political threads, on a car site, surprises me quite a bit, as does the level of passion (sometime even hatred) displayed by some on both side of the political spectrum. As someone looking at this election from the outside, it is certainly not for me to pass judgement on either of the two candidates. I don't feel that I'm qualified to do so. However, we recently had a Canadian election and I don't remember seeing threads about it on any Canadian car site that I visited during the campaign. I guess it shows a different level of interest (and passion) for politics between Americans and Cannadians. That being said, although passion can be a good thing, it can also be a divisive one. What unites most of us and brought us here in the first place is our love for a common car brand and the man behind it, our deisre to learn more about these cars, share our own ownership experience and ultimately make new friends. Based on the few political threads that I looked at on this site, the tone is generally quite nasty, even agressive. I find it sad to see in a sense, as there is nothing to be gained by anyone in these types of arguments. Those who are strongly for or against a candidate won't be swayed in their political beliefs by these threads, so what's the point starting them? What's being accomplished by these threads at the end besides some hurt feelings? I know all about free speech but because someone has a right to say something does not mean saying it is always the best thing to do under the circumstances. Maybe I'm just missing something here but that's my opinion. No wonder, look what we had to pick from. :barf: Just my Canadian opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUFDRAFT Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 No wonder, look what we had to pick from. :barf: Just my F*ked up Canadian opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YZD263 Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 No wonder, look what we had to pick from. :barf: Just my Canadian opinion. Agreed. Our choices were not that great, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtkeith Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 I haven't been on much lately but I got to say, the political threads are getting numerous,it is a political season so I don't mind.Besides isn't that what this country is founded on"free forums" LOL Hey KR, Where the heck have you been bud...Stick around for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8snkbite Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 OK...ELECTION IS OVER WITH........ even though their "off-topic".....just simply move them to a forum/thread under "politics" and everyone is happy. Frankly, i'm just tired of weeding through the pages of them to find the posts that interest me. Hey moderators.....let's get a grip here...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500KR Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hey KR, Where the heck have you been bud...Stick around for awhile. Hey keith, Whatup! Oh, I've been around, reading mostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 OK...ELECTION IS OVER WITH........ even though their "off-topic".....just simply move them to a forum/thread under "politics" and everyone is happy. Frankly, i'm just tired of weeding through the pages of them to find the posts that interest me. Hey moderators.....let's get a grip here...... After interacting with other members, we have concluded that creating a non-automotive forum for people to post in is indeed the best solution. This thread is now being moved there :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastersmech1 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 After interacting with other members, we have concluded that creating a non-automotive forum for people to post in is indeed the best solution. This thread is now being moved there :happy feet: Robert, You are a genious and one heck of a guy. You lead by example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbroski_00 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 You're missing something. "YES WE CAN" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srk1959 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 But what are we going to post about if not political? It seems most members don't care about Tech information which is why I joined this board even though I am guilty of posting the political stuff too. Oh well other boards are pretty much void of any real new performance updates or new combinations as well these days. It must be a sign of the times? We do get the occasional update on the cool new products coming out but seems not many are buying and if so they don't post. The site venders don't even post much, either they made all the money they can use or they are not doing much or they don't want to get caught in the political threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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