shel-b001 Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 HAPPY EASTER to all Team Shelby & their families Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtkeith Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Happy Easter!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 1, 2018 Report Share Posted April 1, 2018 Thank you, you too Shelby001, Happy Resurrection Day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye O'Saben Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 I was getting a kick out of an April Fool's Easter. He has risen! nah, April Fool's. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 C'mon! Shame on you, Doc! Don't come in here to insult the faith of a few Christians here on Team Shelby! Besides, we get the Resurrection Day holiday, the "April Fools" day is for non-believers! ("The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.'" King David, Psalm 14:1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye O'Saben Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Nobody was insulted. Just expressing my beliefs. And besides, regardless of who you are, that was funny. If your belief is strong enough, than you shouldn't have any issues with someone questioning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) This was a thread started by a Christian wishing other Christians on TS a Happy Easter, not an express what you don't believe thread. Maybe you can start your own? Edited April 3, 2018 by Secondo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongoose Posted April 3, 2018 Report Share Posted April 3, 2018 Sorry guys," but I couldn't resist"! Like my dear old Dad used to say: Son, " Opinions are like A???? Holes, everyone has one"! LOL This is also my Opinion! Also too shelby 001, a belated "Happy Easter" too you and your's and the rest of Team Shelby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hawkeye O'Saben Posted April 4, 2018 Report Share Posted April 4, 2018 See, some Christians can enjoy a good joke. And just for the record, I'm one of those born agains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 How can one be born again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hawkeye O'Saben Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 18 hours ago, tekheavy said: How can one be born again? That's when you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and give yourself to him so you can get to heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, DrHawkeye said: That's when you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and give yourself to him so you can get to heaven. So you're saying that people who aren't "born again" are going to Hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svtkeith Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 That's what my Mom told me.......... Thing is with me I'm religious and I'm Christian which means to me you can insult my God as it's your right to do so if you wish....we are better than muslims that would kill you for insulting their so called God/Allah.....JMO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 I'm going to Hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 5, 2018 Report Share Posted April 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, tekheavy said: I'm going to Hell. You don't have to- we just need to humble ourselves by admitting our need for a redeemer and savior. Then you are "born again" when God sends His Spirit into yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) No thanks. I'll take my chances in Hell. Edited April 6, 2018 by tekheavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 No Evan, don't settle for that! Here is an excellent visual teaching to answer your question: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 I feel bad for you Sean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Thanks man now I know you care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye O'Saben Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 17 hours ago, tekheavy said: So you're saying that people who aren't "born again" are going to Hell? That's what the bible says. But it was written by men, and rewritten a few dozen times, so to me it's just a work of semi-fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, DrHawkeye said: That's what the bible says. But it was written by men, and rewritten a few dozen times, so to me it's just a work of semi-fiction. Its been carefully translated from the original texts and even verified legitimate from the Dead Sea Scrolls. I wouldn't be going around telling your friends that it isn't. But at this point I'm really not sure anything you say is true doc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIKEBOY Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 Sure.....the mods are all over the threads that are fun loving. Then, are no where to be found on the ones that clearly violate rule #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekheavy Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, BIKEBOY said: Sure.....the mods are all over the threads that are fun loving. Then, are no where to be found on the ones that clearly violate rule #1. The mods must be aware of our 1st amendment rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIKEBOY Posted April 6, 2018 Report Share Posted April 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, tekheavy said: The mods must be aware of our 1st amendment rights. Sideoiler’s back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-man Posted April 7, 2018 Report Share Posted April 7, 2018 I’m a “mod”, as well as a Christian, and I have been watching this thread with my finger hovering over the button to lock it down if it got abusive or people stated insulting each other. I keep a lot of my personal opinions to myself, but let me share for s moment... I feel that in being a Christian, or a person of any faith, you are sometimes called apon to defend your beliefs and stand up for your faith. Educating others, and evangelizing is part of that. Not everyone will agree (heck, wars have been fought over religious differences), but the act of debating what I believe deepens my faith and brings me closer to Christ. You don’t have to believe, but I do. I encourage the CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL exchanges of opinion on this thread, but my finger remains “on the button”. Please don’t make me press it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye O'Saben Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) On 4/6/2018 at 10:07 AM, Secondo said: Its been carefully translated from the original texts and even verified legitimate from the Dead Sea Scrolls. I wouldn't be going around telling your friends that it isn't. But at this point I'm really not sure anything you say is true doc. So how did you feel a couple years ago when the powers that be changed Mary from a virgin to just a young girl because they had the translation wrong for the last couple thousand of years? And why is Christmas on the same day of the year, but Easter uses the Jewish calendar? Seems like all other deaths in recorded history on a day that didn't change from year to year. And verification from the Dead Sea Scrolls don't give it any more legitimacy, those were also written by man. How many versions of the bible are there? There should be only one, but there isn't. Right there is a problem. And why do the catholics have a bible that is different from what other christians use? And why is the book of Mormon not accepted as fact? It was written the same way the bible was written. And for the mods, these are legitimate questions, no abuse or insults going on here. Edited April 9, 2018 by DrHawkeye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-man Posted April 9, 2018 Report Share Posted April 9, 2018 Dr Hawkeye, while legitimate questions, if you truly are looking for answers, Google is your friend and can provide the information you are seeking, as some of your questions are very easily answered. You could also connect with a number of religious scholars who could help you interpret the nuances and differences in the various accounts and versions of the Bible and the Torah. You will find many more similarities than differences if you care to take a look. If, on the other hand, you are asking your questions just to cause controversy or in an attempt to discredit someone's beliefs, that is indeed being passive aggressive and abusive. So, are you asking for help and attempting to educate yourself on a subject that you currently don't understand, or are you somehow upset that others believe in something that in your view is flawed and contradictory. In either case, on a website that caters to automotive enthusiasts you are much more likely to find answers about horse power as opposed to "His" power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye O'Saben Posted April 10, 2018 Report Share Posted April 10, 2018 Actually, I understand the religious side of it quite well. Spent quite a few years in the Baptist Church, and if I accepted the party line as it was espoused, then it was fine. But critical thinking didn't mesh with everything I was previously told and blind faith was no longer good enough. I also found it difficult to tell those of other faiths that their beliefs were wrong, and mine were the only correct ones, because I had no more proof of fact than they did. Stating something as a belief is completely different than stating it as fact that can't be substantiated, and those are what I've questioned. If someone feels their faith is being questioned, then that person has a problem with their faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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