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How about a twin turbo shelby?


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I am interested to get everyones opinion on a twin turbo shelby. My 08 is due to come in September and I have talked to someone at hp performance who says they will have a twin turbo kit available soon. I thought seriously about putting turbos on my terminator but I knew the irs could not handle the power plus I knew that I would be trading for a gt500.

I love the power that the kenne bell makes and I really respect the amount of research and work they have put into their kit but...1. I'm not crazy about taking off the strut brace, hood blanket, and modifying my hood 2. I would like to have something a little different and I think alot of people will go with the kenne bell because of the simplicity and proven results 3. most importantly I don't know about having 600ftlbs of torque at 2000 rpms. How in the world can you hook that up with street tires or even drag radial? How long can our stock drive trains last with that kind of torque that early in the powerband?

I have enjoyed reading your posts and there are obviously alot of people who know alot about these cars on this sight. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and opinions on this subject.

ps...do any of you have wider stock rims on your cars. I like the rims that come on the car, but I was wondering if anyone makes a wider rim and if so how wide of a rim will fit under the car. thanks in advance for any help

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Just do it! Oh is this a Nike commercial, sorry. I would love to see a twin turbo Shelby, it should haul :censored: My only concern with turbos, there is alot of heat generated under the hood (if it is ceramic coated inside and out should help)from the extra piping. There is usally stuff that has to be cut and modified(poor Shelby). I think it would hard to control as turbo's hit so violently, but it's awesome none the less! IMO

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These guys should have a turbo set up that should work for the GT500 pretty soon: http://www.turbochargedpower.com/. The corvette has the turbos by the rear wheels. I wouldn't think it would be as efficient back there but it seems to work.

 

would this be a bolt-on system?

 

seems like a TT system would require some modification of the engine bay.....

 

I woud be interested if the price was right but i don't want to make any "permanent" changes to the shelby....seems like you may have to cut into the wheel well to get the turbo ducts back around to the intake? am i wrong here?

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I have talked to someone at hp performance and he said they will be releasing two kits for the shelby in the next couple of months. A single turbo kit that should be capable of 800hp and a twin kit that should be capable of (gulp) 1500 hp. The price estimate he gave me was very close to a kb stage 3 and no cutting on the shelby was required. Did I actually see someone post worried about controlling the car when the turbos hit? Have you seen the torque curve on a stage 3 kb? IMO moving the torque curve up higher in the power band with the turbos would give it an advantage over the kb. A twin turbo shelby would definitely have the cool factor. I will be talking somemore with hp performance and I will post what I find out.

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Recently, I attended an Industrial Gas Turbine conference and spent time with a BorgWarner turbo technician. It was a great discussion and opportunity to visually inspect cross-sections of the automotive applications and how industrial gas turbine technology is now incorporated into the small automotive applications, such as variable inlet guide vanes. I asked a big picture question, how have turbos changed from those 1980's applications? He smiled because he knew where I was going with the question. He responded to say that the shaft and impellers are significantly lighter, which reduces spool up time, yet the Achilles heal continues to be bearing oil coking. Without a proper cool down of the turbo before shutdown, over time this can be a problem. My obvious next question, then what is the recommended maintenance to prevent this? His response a .....30 second idle before shutdown was his response.

 

So, today's turbos can offer great hp performance but the maintenance and reliability continues to be an exposure. Is it still appropriate for the auto industry to mass produce turbo applications for gasoline powered engines?

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These guys should have a turbo set up that should work for the GT500 pretty soon: http://www.turbochargedpower.com/. The corvette has the turbos by the rear wheels. I wouldn't think it would be as efficient back there but it seems to work.

just so everybody is aware, HP has had many, many fitament and quality issues on past cobras. I would steer clear of this company.

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just so everybody is aware, HP has had many, many fitament and quality issues on past cobras. I would steer clear of this company.

What kind of fitment issues? Is this something you have experienced personally or have heard about. I have read alot of articles on their kits and not heard anything negative.

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just so everybody is aware, HP has had many, many fitament and quality issues on past cobras. I would steer clear of this company.

I agree, I have seen some of HP and other kits and they are pretty ugly when it come to fitment, we did do a Helion kit on my friends 07Mustang GT and was pretty good fitment (Bassani does the piping for this kit). I know its hard to cram all that extra stuff into a place that was not designed for it, but there are very few companies that spend the extra time and money to do it right, just finding which one is the challenge. It can be a very expensive trial and error thing :banghead:

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No, its HP performance out of New Mexico. Their website is hpperformance.com. I almost bought one of their kits for my terminator, but was worried the irs would have a meltdown.

Give Tony a call. Let him know what you want.

 

http://www.hp-performance.com/index.php?op...ge&Itemid=1

 

And a little some thing about the Twin Turbo Ford GT they built.

 

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/forums/inde...amp;#entry53588

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/forums/inde...amp;#entry93878

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just so everybody is aware, HP has had many, many fitament and quality issues on past cobras. I would steer clear of this company.

What kind of fitment issues? Is this something you have experienced personally or have heard about. I have read alot of articles on their kits and not heard anything negative.

 

no personal experience, but being around the terminator/modular game for 5 years now, I have seen a lot. Browse modular fords and svt performance and do a search for HP turbo kits and you will see what i am talking about. I don't think anybody was satisified with the fitament or quality of their kit. Many had to completely rebuild it, change tubing and re weld many parts.

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Give Tony a call. Let him know what you want.

 

http://www.hp-performance.com/index.php?op...ge&Itemid=1

 

And a little some thing about the Twin Turbo Ford GT they built.

 

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/forums/inde...amp;#entry53588

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/forums/inde...amp;#entry93878

Thanks for the input and the suggestion. I sent Tony an email and will let you know what he says. I don't want to make a high dollar mistake and it is hard to know which shops are good and which ones are hacks. Thanks again and God Bless. Dan

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