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I see that people have listed that their car is 1 or 5 of 75 built that year how do I find out all that kind of information? I have the window sticker and a few other items but was wondering about the other "stuff". Thanks! Al

 

The info you are seeking may be obtained from Ford in the form of a certificate and cover letter. See link below.

 

Steve

 

 

http://www.fordshowparts.com/store_contents.cfm?cart_id=01055466570111114100831042313720160706&store_id=1&dept_id=1150&product_id=6878

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Nothing other than a Marti report will give you the info you're looking for.

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The spread sheets SVT sells only allow you to break down a MY to a certain point, which isn't how many of " your " car were built.

.....................( my 14 is " 1 of 22 " by these sheets )

That $ 45 certificate tells me my 2011 is " # 1558 out of 4150 coupes & # 530 out of 1470 in black " ....not really useful to me !!

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There was a time the website in post # 6 sold a Deluxe Build Sheet, ( 2011 ), that used your VIN to break down the MY to " your " car.

That sheet stops @ color now as the format has been changed.........( the sheet I got for my 2011 states " 1 of 2 " )

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Nothing other than a Marti report will give you the info you're looking for.

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The spread sheets SVT sells only allow you to break down a MY to a certain point, which isn't how many of " your " car were built.

.....................( my 14 is " 1 of 22 " by these sheets )

That $ 45 certificate tells me my 2011 is " # 1558 out of 4150 coupes & # 530 out of 1470 in black " ....not really useful to me !!

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There was a time the website in post # 6 sold a Deluxe Build Sheet, ( 2011 ), that used your VIN to break down the MY to " your " car.

That sheet stops @ color now as the format has been changed.........( the sheet I got for my 2011 states " 1 of 2 " )

But Kevin Marti doesn't offer Marti Reports for the OP's 2008 GT500.

 

Has anyone called SVT/Ford Show Parts asking about the availability of a deluxe report? Perhaps its available but just isn't shown on their website?

 

Steve

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Nothing other than a Marti report will give you the info you're looking for.

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The spread sheets SVT sells only allow you to break down a MY to a certain point, which isn't how many of " your " car were built.

.....................( my 14 is " 1 of 22 " by these sheets )

That $ 45 certificate tells me my 2011 is " # 1558 out of 4150 coupes & # 530 out of 1470 in black " ....not really useful to me !!

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There was a time the website in post # 6 sold a Deluxe Build Sheet, ( 2011 ), that used your VIN to break down the MY to " your " car.

That sheet stops @ color now as the format has been changed.........( the sheet I got for my 2011 states " 1 of 2 " )

 

 

This is correct. Using the spreadsheets my car is 1 of 4 Vapor Silver Metallic Convertibles built in 2009 with the two tone interior upgrade. It's also 1 of 12 with the stripe delete package.

 

I cannot find any information on how many of the 4 with the interior upgrade were also a stripe delete as that could theoretically make it even rarer. Not that it matters that much to me, but it is an interesting data point.

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This is correct. Using the spreadsheets my car is 1 of 4 Vapor Silver Metallic Convertibles built in 2009 with the two tone interior upgrade. It's also 1 of 12 with the stripe delete package.

 

I cannot find any information on how many of the 4 with the interior upgrade were also a stripe delete as that could theoretically make it even rarer. Not that it matters that much to me, but it is an interesting data point.

Out of the four Vapor convertibles for the 2009 model year with the red/black interior, only one was a stripe delete car. The other three cars had black stripes.

 

So it appears that you have a one of one car.

 

Steve

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Out of the four Vapor convertibles for the 2009 model year with the red/black interior, only one was a stripe delete car. The other three cars had black stripes.

 

So it appears that you have a one of one car.

 

Steve

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This has always annoyed me, this info is available...................to a select few.................the rest of us have to wait ( 10 ) years for Marti & Co. to catch up.

If " mavisky " had a document stating the above, that would be worth having..

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Out of the four Vapor convertibles for the 2009 model year with the red/black interior, only one was a stripe delete car. The other three cars had black stripes.

 

So it appears that you have a one of one car.

 

Steve

 

Wow, I'd love to have some information to verify that. That may change my mind on adding stripes to this car.

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This has always annoyed me, this info is available...................to a select few.................the rest of us have to wait ( 10 ) years for Marti & Co. to catch up.

If " mavisky " had a document stating the above, that would be worth having..

Shelby American is a select few???

 

I had reservations about posting that info and now see I should have gone with my gut feeling.

 

Just can't please some folks.

 

Steve

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Shelby American is a select few???

 

I had reservations about posting that info and now see I should have gone with my gut feeling.

 

Just can't please some folks.

 

Steve

He is saying that the Information is only available to a select few people, not to everyone. Speaking of which....... when is SAI going to produce the first Registry, it has been 10 Years since the first SAI built Vehicle has rolled off the line so there should be enough to do a Registry for everyone to enjoy.

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He is saying that the Information is only available to a select few people, not to everyone. Speaking of which....... when is SAI going to produce the first Registry, it has been 10 Years since the first SAI built Vehicle has rolled off the line so there should be enough to do a Registry for everyone to enjoy.

David,

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "produce the first registry", could you elaborate on that?

 

Steve

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David,

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "produce the first registry", could you elaborate on that?

 

Steve

Since SAI does not produce a Registry like what SAAC does, I have their 1997 Registry which has all the Cobra's, GT40's and 1965-1970 Shelby Mustangs in it known at that time. It would be nice if SAI would do that as well, with all the SAI Vehicles from 2006 and up. I know you are still building Vehicles but you can just pick a Date, for example say December 31, 2016, will be the cut off date for the First Edition and everything known will be in it. then 5 Years down the Road do the same and you fill in the blanks that were in the First Edition and add the new stuff. Each Edition gets bigger and like the SAAC Registry, could get big enough to split it up into 2 or 3 Books.

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Since SAI does not produce a Registry like what SAAC does, I have their 1997 Registry which has all the Cobra's, GT40's and 1965-1970 Shelby Mustangs in it known at that time. It would be nice if SAI would do that as well, with all the SAI Vehicles from 2006 and up. I know you are still building Vehicles but you can just pick a Date, for example say December 31, 2016, will be the cut off date for the First Edition and everything known will be in it. then 5 Years down the Road do the same and you fill in the blanks that were in the First Edition and add the new stuff. Each Edition gets bigger and like the SAAC Registry, could get big enough to split it up into 2 or 3 Books.

David,

 

Do you realize that more Shelby branded vehicles were built in 2007 than the combined total of 1962-70 built Shelby's? So if we were do as you ask and use the SAAC Registry as a roadmap (which we are definitely not) a printed Registry book just for the 2007 model year would consist of four books and using SAAC pricing that would be over $800.00 for a printed Registry just for a single year.

 

Then add two more books for the 2008 model year and another two books for the 2009 model year. Now we are at eight Registry books at a price of $1,600.00 and that's just for the first generation. Now lets be conservative and say the second generation would only need one additional book per year, that's five more books at another $1,000.00

 

So a printed Registry just for the current generation cars would cost the enthusiast $2,600.00 and would be OUTDATED tomorrow when additional cars are built. I don't know any enthusiast who would be willing to $2,600.00 every year or two for an updated book.

 

Now I understand the first rebuttal would be, well Steve enthusiasts would only need one book that covers their car and while that may be true most enthusiasts wouldn't be interested in paying for a revised book every year or two so that they can see how the numbers have changed due to new builds or ownership changes.

 

Now this is just one of many reasons a printed Shelby American Registry book is not likely to happen, at least not at this point in time.

 

In a nutshell the Shelby American Registry should not and can not be compared to the SAAC Registry book. While we have some things in common we have much more differences and many more hurdles than SAAC has.

 

Steve

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Well, in the case of SAI, a set of CD's would be the way to go. As far as being OUTDATED tomorrow, YES, that will always be the case, we hope. You don't up date it every Year, you would up date it every 5 Years adding to what was already printed and expanding it with all the new Vehicles that were built up to that period by adding CD's to the set. By doing it every 5 Years, you give SAI time to build more Vehicles and Customers time to enjoy the Registry before it is time to buy the next newest version. If it all goes well, it will continue to be an on going cycle which means another source of repeated income. The first set of CD's will be the hardest to put together because it has yet to be done and you are starting from scratch and have Thousands of Vehicles. The next set will be easier and the next set after that and so on.

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Well, in the case of SAI, a set of CD's would be the way to go. As far as being OUTDATED tomorrow, YES, that will always be the case, we hope. You don't up date it every Year, you would up date it every 5 Years adding to what was already printed and expanding it with all the new Vehicles that were built up to that period by adding CD's to the set. By doing it every 5 Years, you give SAI time to build more Vehicles and Customers time to enjoy the Registry before it is time to buy the next newest version. If it all goes well, it will continue to be an on going cycle which means another source of repeated income. The first set of CD's will be the hardest to put together because it has yet to be done and you are starting from scratch and have Thousands of Vehicles. The next set will be easier and the next set after that and so on.

David, I understand your enthusiasm but selling a Registry on CD's will not work. Within days someone will duplicate the CD's and be selling them on eBay & Craigslist. Or in worse case scenario someone will upload the info onto the net.

 

While Shelby American does appreciate input from owners & enthusiasts most avenues have already been explored and unless a new idea comes along we will most likely be sticking with our goal of bringing the current internal Registry online where it would be available 24/7. And no we have no date to release for this.

 

Steve

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Steve,

 

Your explanation is well taken as the volume of Shelby branded vehicles is exceptional now. How about a printed registry of just those Shelby vehicles produced by the Shelby American shop, not those branded and produced by FoMoCo? Instead of tens of thousands, there would be a few thousand. Like the SAAC books, it could be handled with periodic republished updates every ten years (approx.). For those with the need for immediate updates, designated registrars could handle the information for select models.

 

The SAI Registry books could include invaluable information on the cars, the SA shop, the personnel and other great historic information.

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Steve,

 

Your explanation is well taken as the volume of Shelby branded vehicles is exceptional now. How about a printed registry of just those Shelby vehicles produced by the Shelby American shop, not those branded and produced by FoMoCo? Instead of tens of thousands, there would be a few thousand. Like the SAAC books, it could be handled with periodic republished updates every ten years (approx.). For those with the need for immediate updates, designated registrars could handle the information for select models.

 

The SAI Registry books could include invaluable information on the cars, the SA shop, the personnel and other great historic information.

That has been discussed and could still be a possibility. One of our concerns with doing that or say several smaller printed registry books that would focus on just one car, for example a printed Registry book for just the 2006-07 GTH cars or a book for the 2007-08 SGT cars, is that some Shelby owners would feel excluded because their car wasn't built at Shelby American its not in the printed Registry and then starts the tiresome debate that my car is a "real" Shelby and yours isn't.

 

Since we will never be able to please everyone we have to please as many owner/enthusiasts as we can which is why we probably would never want to separate the SAI built car from the Ford built cars.

 

Steve

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The SAI Registry books could include invaluable information on the cars, the SA shop, the personnel and other great historic information.

In regards to your last comment, all that can easily be done online. Plans are currently in work to add a knowledge center to the Shelby.com website when its revamped later this year. With the newer generation of Shelby's now on their second and third owners we need a place for these new owners, especially owners who where not involved in the Shelby community back in 2005-09, to hopefully have a one stop resource for getting up to speed on how their particular Shelby came to be.

 

Steve

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In regards to your last comment, all that can easily be done online. Plans are currently in work to add a knowledge center to the Shelby.com website when its revamped later this year. With the newer generation of Shelby's now on their second and third owners we need a place for these new owners, especially owners who where not involved in the Shelby community back in 2005-09, to hopefully have a one stop resource for getting up to speed on how their particular Shelby came to be.

 

Steve

Steve, would you have an issue if someone wanted to do a Printed Registry if the Car Owners sent their info to them?

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