Outrageous Numbers Game

[Puddychucks]

"The 2015 Super Snake is an outrageous numbers game that doesn't add up"

 

- R & T

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a26666/shelby-super-snake-road-test/

[OaktownACE]

Careful, that article may push the limits of the rules that were pinned tonight. Lol

 

I think that article was posted a while back. I'm being lazy to find the link to the thread. Tough sell.

[TexasShelby]

Well GM lovers still won't compare it to any Camaro.

 

$100K? IDK. I'd have to have quite a bit more than I have now to justify it.

[AstroDan]

Hmmmm

They show 0-100mph at 9.3 sec and 0-150 at 22.8? It takes longer from 100 to 150, than 0-100? I call BS. I know in my little 600+hp SGT, it doesn't take 13+ seconds for that last 50mph... I also pulled 116mph in 1/4 mile before the Aluminator... 550hp

Edited September 30, 2015 by AstroDan

[mach 1 1970]

People @ Shelby need to read this review , that's all I'm going to say.

[OaktownACE]

In fairness, didn't they blast the 2013-2014 SS too? It was that car okay?

[TexasShelby]

Road and Track, the guys that put a normal aspirated Challenger up against a GT500 in like 2011 or so? Oh the GT500 won in almost all the performance tests, but they gave it to the Challenger because "the GT500s engine whined too much".

 

And they had serial number 1 that they are letting the public drive. Do you think perhaps they tuned it down a tad? What's better, 1 or 2 tenths slower in a quarter mile, or putting it on a trailer and hauling off a blown engine?

 

It seems like they are always looking for something to edge by a Shelby, just how specific did they have to get to bring the ZL1 and the Hellcat into it, but....they didn't use R&Ts numbers, they used the manufacturers.

 

Nah, I'll dance with the one who brought me, and let the typewriter boys keep typing.

 

Besides, as an honest example, when cruising; people still walk right past ZL1s and even ZR1s and any Dodge product to talk to me about my old, outdated, slower 07 GT500. As my 13 year old says to his friends when I bring it out to pick him up at school, some vettes might be faster, but your Dad can't take your 2 best friends in the car with you. :-)

[mach 1 1970]

When will Road & Track say something nice about the new Shelby cars ? First it was the Ecoboost now it's the SS. Not good press that's for sure.

[David Hawkins]

When will Road & Track say something nice about the new Shelby cars ? First it was the Ecoboost now it's the SS. Not good press that's for sure.

When SAI Pays them to, like all the others have done.

[TexasShelby]

In all fairness, it was either R&T or C&D, but they put a $118K Porsche up against SuperSnake....I literally threw the magazine in the trash and did not renew after that.

 

There are tons of cars that are better than a Shelby, and a ton of cars that do one thing or another better than a Shelby, but for my money and resources and my pure enjoyment, this is by far the best car I have owned in 35 years.

 

And I still get great enjoyment out of it, whether it be at a Car Show, at a cruise night or just going to the grocery store.

Edited October 2, 2015 by TexasShelby

[OaktownACE]

In all fairness, it was either R&T or C&D, but they put a $118K Porsche up against SuperSnake....I literally threw the magazine in the trash and did not renew after that.

 

There are tons of cars that are better than a Shelby, and a ton of cars that do one thing or another better than a Shelby, but for my money and resources and my pure enjoyment, this is by far the best car I have owned in 35 years.

 

And I still get great enjoyment out of it, whether it be at a Car Show, at a cruise night or just going to the grocery store.

Hate to break it to you but my SS cost me ~120k total. That's including tax on the initial car purchase. So putting it up against another 120k car is fair. The argument can be made, however, that my SS (2014) was made to be more of a straight line performer. The problem with that thinking is that it's very hard to put all the hp to the ground in the SS.

 

In the end it's a crazy ride, a true hot rod, that is not a refined car. For some, like me, that's a hell of a lot of fun even if it does make me crap my pants now and again. My SS follows in the Shelby tradition of packing as much motor as possible into the car and then seeing what happens.

[TexasShelby]

Very good

[Secondo]

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Edited October 2, 2015 by Secondo

[BIKEBOY]

Nah, I'll dance with the one who brought me, and let the typewriter boys keep typing.

 

[BIKEBOY]

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Chicken

[svttim]

Careful, that article may push the limits of the rules that were pinned tonight. Lol

I think that article was posted a while back. I'm being lazy to find the link to the thread. Tough sell.

Please read them again. This post is fine

[ChrisR]

Did anyone read this one?

 

http://www.mustangandfords.com/features/1509-2015-super-snake-track-test-pressing-go-on-the-750hp-shelby-mustang/

 

 

"Anything worth doing is worth doing in excess" Carroll Shelby

 

[1 Alibi 2]

The " base " upgrade package is 50K, costing more than a well appointed GT it's going on, some potential buyers may have an issue with that.

In any text I've seen, the base package isn't reviewed, it's usually the 850 ( crank ) version.

Previous MY SS's were able to hold their resale value partly because they based on a GT500 VIN, not sure how the 2015 SS will do in this area.

Edited October 3, 2015 by 1 Alibi 2

[mach 1 1970]

Did anyone read this one?

 

http://www.mustangandfords.com/features/1509-2015-super-snake-track-test-pressing-go-on-the-750hp-shelby-mustang/

 

 

"Anything worth doing is worth doing in excess" Carroll Shelby

 

Well that's more like it. Thanks for posting.

[Jimmy Sak]

Hate to break it to you but my SS cost me ~120k total. That's including tax on the initial car purchase. So putting it up against another 120k car is fair. The argument can be made, however, that my SS (2014) was made to be more of a straight line performer. The problem with that thinking is that it's very hard to put all the hp to the ground in the SS.

In the end it's a crazy ride, a true hot rod, that is not a refined car. For some, like me, that's a hell of a lot of fun even if it does make me crap my pants now and again. My SS follows in the Shelby tradition of packing as much motor as possible into the car and then seeing what happens.

You need to get a wide body put on her. It's crazy how much more they plant.

[OaktownACE]

You need to get a wide body put on her. It's crazy how much more they plant.

If I had room I'd be tempted but my garage space is limited so it's a nonstarter. Maybe in another life!

[07shelbygt/sc1904]

Road and Track, the guys that put a normal aspirated Challenger up against a GT500 in like 2011 or so? Oh the GT500 won in almost all the performance tests, but they gave it to the Challenger because "the GT500s engine whined too much".

 

And they had serial number 1 that they are letting the public drive. Do you think perhaps they tuned it down a tad? What's better, 1 or 2 tenths slower in a quarter mile, or putting it on a trailer and hauling off a blown engine?

 

It seems like they are always looking for something to edge by a Shelby, just how specific did they have to get to bring the ZL1 and the Hellcat into it, but....they didn't use R&Ts numbers, they used the manufacturers.

 

Nah, I'll dance with the one who brought me, and let the typewriter boys keep typing.

 

Besides, as an honest example, when cruising; people still walk right past ZL1s and even ZR1s and any Dodge product to talk to me about my old, outdated, slower 07 GT500. As my 13 year old says to his friends when I bring it out to pick him up at school, some vettes might be faster, but your Dad can't take your 2 best friends in the car with you. :-)

[07shelbygt/sc1904]

Road and Track, the guys that put a normal aspirated Challenger up against a GT500 in like 2011 or so? Oh the GT500 won in almost all the performance tests, but they gave it to the Challenger because "the GT500s engine whined too much".

 

And they had serial number 1 that they are letting the public drive. Do you think perhaps they tuned it down a tad? What's better, 1 or 2 tenths slower in a quarter mile, or putting it on a trailer and hauling off a blown engine?

 

It seems like they are always looking for something to edge by a Shelby, just how specific did they have to get to bring the ZL1 and the Hellcat into it, but....they didn't use R&Ts numbers, they used the manufacturers.

 

Nah, I'll dance with the one who brought me, and let the typewriter boys keep typing.

 

Besides, as an honest example, when cruising; people still walk right past ZL1s and even ZR1s and any Dodge product to talk to me about my old, outdated, slower 07 GT500. As my 13 year old says to his friends when I bring it out to pick him up at school, some vettes might be faster, but your Dad can't take your 2 best friends in the car with you. :-)

[07shelbygt/sc1904]

Road and Track, the guys that put a normal aspirated Challenger up against a GT500 in like 2011 or so? Oh the GT500 won in almost all the performance tests, but they gave it to the Challenger because "the GT500s engine whined too much".

 

And they had serial number 1 that they are letting the public drive. Do you think perhaps they tuned it down a tad? What's better, 1 or 2 tenths slower in a quarter mile, or putting it on a trailer and hauling off a blown engine?

 

It seems like they are always looking for something to edge by a Shelby, just how specific did they have to get to bring the ZL1 and the Hellcat into it, but....they didn't use R&Ts numbers, they used the manufacturers.

 

Nah, I'll dance with the one who brought me, and let the typewriter boys keep typing.

 

Besides, as an honest example, when cruising; people still walk right past ZL1s and even ZR1s and any Dodge product to talk to me about my old, outdated, slower 07 GT500. As my 13 year old says to his friends when I bring it out to pick him up at school, some vettes might be faster, but your Dad can't take your 2 best friends in the car with you. :-)

[07shelbygt/sc1904]

I agree you can dust a vette while still having room for the family and groceries with some taste. They still don't make a vette that can pass 200!

[BAD SNAKE]

My concern is with all this horsepower, whatever it is, is built on a GT body not a GT500 body. I remember reading when I bought my car the '07-'09 GT500's are 3 times stronger than a GT frame/body to handle the torque. How do we know after a few times down the track the car won't fall apart? Just asking.........

[rdrawkit]

Like CS said... It's in the driving experience.. Raw power beats any human car comforts, My 08, 650rwhp is the most fun and enjoyable ride I have ever experienced. Never once do I ever "YAWN" when driving her. 07-09 best looking gt500 and SS version. imo

[william strauch]

As Texas said,where ever I go people point,nod,thumbs up or say "nice car". Any cars and coffee event whether with exotics or others, people will find us and want to talk about the car. It proves a point,that Shelby's get attention and respect. At shows we have taken 1st and Gold at every one this year.