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Comp Cams, Valve springs, Titanium retainers, Moser Chromemoly axles, subframe connectors, Tunnel brace, welded axle housing, BMR lower control arms changed angle,1200hp Ace T6600 aluminum clutch, Oil separators, Thumper RRR Billet tensioner. If I forgot anything it's on the brochure for the Supersnakes prior to 2015.

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Long term investment car, not insured for any timed events. Not sure if at some point might, it's been 35 years since any events like that for me. I fall back on to Gary Patterson's quote " These cars aren't built to go from 0-60mph, there built to go from 60-200mph the amount of power these cars make won't get traction for 1/4 mile runs". It's a beast to drive with the clutch the way it responds On or Off. The tune doesn't allow you to slip it to get started. You just let it out and the car goes... :clapping:

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Does anyone have a graph to show the numbers for a stock super snake? Pls. post. Thx

 

William, do you have your Dyno graph?. Would you mind posting it pls. and ty. I'm trying to figure out where the torque is going when these supersnake packages are done. i.e. If you look at American Muscle's stage 3 gt500 power pack 2013 - the torque gain is monsterous - way more than a Supersnakes. Why? Is it the velocity of the intake charge is higher with the stock blower being spun faster, or something else? Because as I know it, the SS is basically just a bigger Supercharger running lower boost pressure but processing more air than a stock GT500. All other bottle neck fixes, tunes, etc are virtually the same. So why does the AM pack make so much more torque?

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I think I have it. A stock GT500 with the stage 3 power pack moves more air earlier on in the RPM range, thus making more power (torque) right off the bat. The SS with its bigger blower, moves less air right away up to a certain point where it takes off ahead, but by that time the motor is revving much higher and thus it makes more horsepower than torque at that point. That is why they put the lower gear set in, 3:73, to compensate for the lost torque and maintain a good launch.

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FYI, SA tunes are quite conservative IMO. Why, not sure, warranty? A friends 2014 sig snake dynoed well south of 700rwhp. Doesn't bother me I guess, and any the cars are not dynoed at SA unless requested i believe. Pre loaded "canned" tunes are the way.

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I bought the car used with 2k miles. Why is there all ways one a**hole in the bunch with a smart remark.

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I wouldn't buy a " used " car unless the seller provided complete documentation, on a modded car, that includes a dyno sheet.

The a**holes are the ones driving around in big $$$$ conversions, asking others about their dyno #'s

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I wouldn't buy a " used " car unless the seller provided complete documentation, on a modded car, that includes a dyno sheet.

The a**holes are the ones driving around in big $$$$ conversions, asking others about their dyno #'s

I understand you don't like that Shelby gets away with selling a conversion that is more expensive than it should be and I can see that the fact that the converted cars holding that higher value bugs you. However, the guy posted on a SS forum, an honest question.

 

My SS was not put on the dyno. I'm not losing sleep over I because it's running well right now and I know if I want to have it tuned more aggressively I can. For me right now, my ass dyno tells me I just about right even if I'm not maximizing my performance.

 

So lighten up Francis and let the guy enjoy his ride!

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I wouldn't buy a " used " car unless the seller provided complete documentation, on a modded car, that includes a dyno sheet.

The a**holes are the ones driving around in big $$$$ conversions, asking others about their dyno #'s

lmao.....you upset because you don't have a Super Snake.. 99% of all super snakes have not been dynoed. I plan on having mine done since Jon Lund has tuned it was just looking to see what most people where seeing..I tell ya sometimes I wonder why some people come on the internet?

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I understand you don't like that Shelby gets away with selling a conversion that is more expensive than it should be and I can see that the fact that the converted cars holding that higher value bugs you. However, the guy posted on a SS forum, an honest question.

 

My SS was not put on the dyno. I'm not losing sleep over I because it's running well right now and I know if I want to have it tuned more aggressively I can. For me right now, my ass dyno tells me I just about right even if I'm not maximizing my performance.

 

So lighten up Francis and let the guy enjoy his ride!

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I have no issue with SA converting cars & selling the take off parts, it's how the buying public allows them to do business, like ADM.

If a person dumps 35 to 70K in a conversion,( without a dyno sheet ), it should bring a higher resale value.

The guys honest question posted on the SS forum, had me wondering how a person could spend that much money, and know so little about what he bought.

And my post bothering you was added entertainment.

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lmao.....you upset because you don't have a Super Snake.. 99% of all super snakes have not been dynoed. I plan on having mine done since Jon Lund has tuned it was just looking to see what most people where seeing..I tell ya sometimes I wonder why some people come on the internet?

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Had I wanted a Super Snake, I would have had one built.

A packaged conversion has no appeal to me, there is nothing unique about them, SA decides what you can have.

99 % of all Super Snakes aren't dyno'd because the buyers don't demand it.

Your car being tuned by Jon Lund indicates the 1st owner had issues with the SA tune, several threads about SA tunes on other sites.

Some people come to the net for dyno #'s, I come for knowledge & entertainment.

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Had I wanted a Super Snake, I would have had one built.

A packaged conversion has no appeal to me, there is nothing unique about them, SA decides what you can have.

99 % of all Super Snakes aren't dyno'd because the buyers don't demand it.

Your car being tuned by Jon Lund indicates the 1st owner had issues with the SA tune, several threads about SA tunes on other sites.

Some people come to the net for dyno #'s, I come for knowledge & entertainment.

 

I can only imagine you are able to get plenty of entertainment from the internet. But your comments highlight that there is no such thing as KNOWLEDGE from the internet, only good/bad information. Having not actually experienced the ordering, purchasing, and driving a SuperSnake, it is easy to build an opinion that may have some bias. SS are unique, and owners are allowed to select specific options about them. SAI maintains some integrity to the brand by making some options non-negotiable. SAI does put the cars on the dyno during the testing process, but will only include a printout if you ask for one. I am certain that some owners have their cars tuned afterwards with other companies, for many reasons, including being unhappy with the tune from SAI. I too was surprised there was no dyno sheet in my 10 lb packet of paperwork when I picked up the car in LV. I bought a certain hp package, trusted the vendor to produce such, and have faith that if something were not up to par, they would fix the issue. I have reached out to the SAI warranty dept for my SS at least 5 times and every time they have resolved the issue in an expedient manner.

 

I hope everyone is enjoying there time here. I am still of the opinion that the only stupid question is the question not asked.

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I have no issue with SA converting cars & selling the take off parts, it's how the buying public allows them to do business, like ADM.

If a person dumps 35 to 70K in a conversion,( without a dyno sheet ), it should bring a higher resale value.

The guys honest question posted on the SS forum, had me wondering how a person could spend that much money, and know so little about what he bought.

And my post bothering you was added entertainment.

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No you didn't bother me. You've made your opinions known on the boards. On some levels I agree with you. There is a layer of opaqueness from Shelby that sort of clouds the process.

 

I don't have a problem with what you said, but felt you were a little aggressive when a guy asked a reasonable question.

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Wow this guy is a total ass. I have all ways enjoyed the time I have spent on all the forums that I belong to and have been involved in cars my whole life. This guy gives the Internet a bad name and I wonder why he is even here if he does not want or like the Super Snake package.

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So, in the end. Is it worth all the money to do the conversion, and are you satisfied with the level of performance you obtained? You know; did you jump in this thing and go for a rip and just say ^&*k Yah!! or was it less than you expected? Seems like a lot of money and I would want something just ##$king unreal - and I think it should be. Your thoughts?

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It is by far the most exciting vehicle I have ever had. Shelby has stood behind any little issue and has been very supportive and responsive to my needs. Jason, Kevin and AJ have been the best.... :clapping: After a drive at Spring Mountain last weekend with the Shelby team, it was such a wonderful and exciting track experience. Gary and Vince take the track experience to a whole different level. :shift: I wouldn't change a thing on my Hole Shot pkg 980hp 2014 Super Snake. :love_shower:

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So, in the end. Is it worth all the money to do the conversion, and are you satisfied with the level of performance you obtained? You know; did you jump in this thing and go for a rip and just say ^&*k Yah!! or was it less than you expected? Seems like a lot of money and I would want something just ##$king unreal - and I think it should be. Your thoughts?

After 10 different road courses I recently rolled over 50K miles on my 2013 SS with 850hp. Seeing the excitement in people's eyes when they see the car at shows or driving down the road makes me a proud owner. Even getting an occasional speeding ticket bothers me slightly less knowing I got it in that car. So yea, it's worth it.

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I can only imagine you are able to get plenty of entertainment from the internet. But your comments highlight that there is no such thing as KNOWLEDGE from the internet, only good/bad information. Having not actually experienced the ordering, purchasing, and driving a SuperSnake, it is easy to build an opinion that may have some bias. SS are unique, and owners are allowed to select specific options about them. SAI maintains some integrity to the brand by making some options non-negotiable. SAI does put the cars on the dyno during the testing process, but will only include a printout if you ask for one. I am certain that some owners have their cars tuned afterwards with other companies, for many reasons, including being unhappy with the tune from SAI. I too was surprised there was no dyno sheet in my 10 lb packet of paperwork when I picked up the car in LV. I bought a certain hp package, trusted the vendor to produce such, and have faith that if something were not up to par, they would fix the issue. I have reached out to the SAI warranty dept for my SS at least 5 times and every time they have resolved the issue in an expedient manner.

 

I hope everyone is enjoying there time here. I am still of the opinion that the only stupid question is the question not asked.

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Yes, there is knowledge to be gained from the net.

Based on your post, ( # 2 ), your 850 package SS doesn't impress me, 19 % drivetrain loss !!

Going back to the OP's question, to get a " meaningful " answer, at a minimum, he would have to know what kind of dyno & what SAE corrections were applied.

......................And thank you for posting.

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Wow this guy is a total ass. I have all ways enjoyed the time I have spent on all the forums that I belong to and have been involved in cars my whole life. This guy gives the Internet a bad name and I wonder why he is even here if he does not want or like the Super Snake package.

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Use the word " ass " a lot in your posts ?

For someone who's " been involved in cars my whole life. ", this thread is surprising.

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