Carl Bishop Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Well, I've given up waiting on SPP to develop and sell a shifter ball for the SGT. I've found a company that is willing to make a custom shifter ball in blue with silver LaMans strips with the CSM# engraved in both sides of the knob. Now my question, he's asking me for the "Patrone Color Codes" for the Vista Blue and Silver stripes. Does anyone know what he's talking about or how to find the codes that match the paint codes body and stripes? Any help will be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydub Mach1 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Pantone Color System is a color standard system that was developed in the printing industry to standardize ink colors. It gives the recipe to create all the different colors. The plastics industry, as well as others, also use it. Your vendor is wanting the Pantone number that's the closest to Vista Blue. Without their very expensive color samples, I'm not sure how to give them a number. Maybe take of your fuel door and tell them to match it. Here's a link to their plastics site. http://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/category.aspx?ca=5&from=hpsilo and here http://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/colorfinder.aspx Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Will he make a Shelby GT-H version black with gold stripes and the CSM # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Ruchelski Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Bishop Posted July 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Pantone Color System is a color standard system that was developed in the printing industry to standardize ink colors. It gives the recipe to create all the different colors. The plastics industry, as well as others, also use it. Your vendor is wanting the Pantone number that's the closest to Vista Blue. Without their very expensive color samples, I'm not sure how to give them a number. Maybe take of your fuel door and tell them to match it. Here's a link to their plastics site. http://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/category.aspx?ca=5&from=hpsilo and here http://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/colorfinder.aspx Hope that helps. It does, I'm going to give him a call and see if he has any suggestions on how I might be able to find someone locally that has one of these samples. Will he make a Shelby GT-H version black with gold stripes and the CSM # I don't see why not, so you have one of the SGT-H will a 5-Speed? I'll let you know once I get over this first hurtle... This will not be cheap, it never is when your the first one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Ruchelski Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'll also take a black and gold one...Not for my GT-H, but for my SS if the price is not tooo ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-man Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Any printer or sign shop should have a Pantone book. If you ask nicely, they will probably help you pick the right colors. Do not use any 'color chips' you find on-line. Different monitors display the colors differently, and you may pick an incorrect match. Also make sure the Pantone book is a current version and not outdated. The inks in the colorbooks fade over time and some of the ID numbers get changed as well. Z-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Fest Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Any printer or sign shop should have a Pantone book. If you ask nicely, they will probably help you pick the right colors. Do not use any 'color chips' you find on-line. Different monitors display the colors differently, and you may pick an incorrect match. Also make sure the Pantone book is a current version and not outdated. The inks in the colorbooks fade over time and some of the ID numbers get changed as well. Z-man +1 Well done sir! Are you in the industry? It's not often I find someone that speaks my language, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-man Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 +1 Well done sir! Are you in the industry? It's not often I find someone that speaks my language, Not in the printing industry, but have experience with printing, color matching, and labeling as a customer. I used to work for a major consumer goods supplier to places like Home Depot, Lowes, WalMart, etc. For them the packaging was almost as important as the product. Just bad glad the O.P. didn't ask a question about PMS....you being in the industry will get that joke, but everyone else will think we are talking about something completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 No Shelby GT-H 5 speed for me .... I am not that lucky but I do have a TCI shifter thay will accept a knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewnagle1964 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well, I've given up waiting on SPP to develop and sell a shifter ball for the SGT. I've found a company that is willing to make a custom shifter ball in blue with silver LaMans strips with the CSM# engraved in both sides of the knob. Now my question, he's asking me for the "Patrone Color Codes" for the Vista Blue and Silver stripes. Does anyone know what he's talking about or how to find the codes that match the paint codes body and stripes? Any help will be appreciated. Carl. I can loan you a Pantone color card, we have several. Obviously I can match the silver but not the blue, don't know anyone locally who has a vista blue mustang Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Bishop Posted July 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Thanks for the offer Andrew.... I found a local sign shop this morning that is willing to let me use their book. I'm going to try and swing by there after work if the weather holds out today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT0517 Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 If anyone in the DC area has a Vista Blue Mustang I can bring my Pantone book and get a number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-man Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I borrowed a set of Pantone standards today. I have a Vista Blue GT500, so I'll match it tonight and post up the closest ID numbers. Z-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-man Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 I just compared the sample book to my Vista Blue GT500. I also asked Mrs. Z, and Z-girl to pick the color that they thought was the closest as well. I say 'closest' because the Pantone colors are standards, not custom colors, and as such you can get close to the Vista Blue but you won't get a 100% perfect match. Another consideration is that the Vista Blue is a metallic paint, and the Pantone standards are solid (non-metallic) inks. Metallic colors all exhibit at least some degree of color shift depending on the angle of the light they are reflecting. Pearl paints do this purposely, and to a large degree. Long story short, I picked Pantone 295C. Mrs. Z picked Pantone 2955C. These two colors are very close to each other. Of the two, 295C is slightly darker. Z-girl (my 11 year old daughter) said the best match would be half way between the colors that we picked. Either one of these colors should be fine for a gear shift knob, as it won't be directly against the paint on the car, and therefore any minor variations in color should be imperceptible to the eye. Good Luck with the project! Z-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Do I need the pantone color for the black of the GT-H? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Bishop Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Z-man.... Thank you for your input, I went to a sign shop yesterday and the owner and his assistant settled on 282 C (blue) and Cool Gray 2 C for the stripes. So this is what I sent off to the company that I'm having make the knob, I guess I'll find out when I have it in hand. Larry T, I would believe you'll be able to use the vendors stock black color and just need to provide the pantone color used for the stripes and the CSM#. I'll keep everyone posted on progress and may even start a new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBlueHeaven Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Z-man.... Thank you for your input, I went to a sign shop yesterday and the owner and his assistant settled on 282 C (blue) and Cool Gray 2 C for the stripes. So this is what I sent off to the company that I'm having make the knob, I guess I'll find out when I have it in hand. Larry T, I would believe you'll be able to use the vendors stock black color and just need to provide the pantone color used for the stripes and the CSM#. I'll keep everyone posted on progress and may even start a new thread. Looking forward to the results Carl as I'll be interested in one as well. Thanks for doing this. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Can anyone help with the pantone color for the Gold on the Shelby GT-H? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Vista blue is 2738C Well, I've given up waiting on SPP to develop and sell a shifter ball for the SGT. I've found a company that is willing to make a custom shifter ball in blue with silver LaMans strips with the CSM# engraved in both sides of the knob. Now my question, he's asking me for the "Patrone Color Codes" for the Vista Blue and Silver stripes. Does anyone know what he's talking about or how to find the codes that match the paint codes body and stripes? Any help will be appreciated. Vista blue is 2738C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 The Shelby GT stripe pantone is 818487 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydub Mach1 Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 A note of caution when using Pantone System to match colors. As a mechanical engineer, I've designed parts, for longer than I'd like to admit, whose finished colors were based on the Pantone system. This includes plastic injection molded parts, e-coated, powder coated metal parts, etc. In my experience it may not always a given that the finished part will exactly match the Pantone Sample Chips. In the past we've found that: Sometimes, the parent material/surface of the part reflects light differently then Pantones color chip sample does, which I believe is on heavy stock paper. So the color is off a bit Other times, the part will come back and is a bit off, again. When we'd call the supplier who made the part, they would say that they used the exact color recipe that Pantone specifies for a particular color. Doesn't happen a lot, but just something to be cautious about. Good Luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-man Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 A note of caution when using Pantone System to match colors. As a mechanical engineer, I've designed parts, for longer than I'd like to admit, whose finished colors were based on the Pantone system. This includes plastic injection molded parts, e-coated, powder coated metal parts, etc. In my experience it may not always a given that the finished part will exactly match the Pantone Sample Chips. In the past we've found that: Sometimes, the parent material/surface of the part reflects light differently then Pantones color chip sample does, which I believe is on heavy stock paper. So the color is off a bit Other times, the part will come back and is a bit off, again. When we'd call the supplier who made the part, they would say that they used the exact color recipe that Pantone specifies for a particular color. Doesn't happen a lot, but just something to be cautious about. Good Luck!! ^What he said. Been there, done that. Color matching is much more involved and complicated than most people would think. Z-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007SGT Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 What is the name of or, a link to the custom shift knob company. I would like a blk/ silver w/# Thanks 07SGT3814 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBlueHeaven Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Any progress on this Carl? looking forward to seeing what the outcome is. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Bishop Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I finally received the shifter knob, the colors are not a perfect match. The 'silver' is a very light gray color and the flash washed it out in the photo. But overall I like the way it looks and the feel of the larger knob. The CSM# is on both sides.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyBlueHeaven Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 I finally received the shifter knob, the colors are not a perfect match. The 'silver' is a very light gray color and the flash washed it out in the photo. But overall I like the way it looks and the feel of the larger knob. The CSM# is on both sides.... Looks good Carl, what's the cost if we want to get one, and who do we order from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT0128 Posted November 29, 2014 Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 This company did my shifter ball in Grabber Orange. I'd say it's near perfect. https://www.speeddawg.com/shift-knobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Bishop Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 Looks good Carl, what's the cost if we want to get one, and who do we order from? Jeff, Contact Darren via email at No.19 Products Twisted Shifterz: info@no19products.com Mention my name and he'll quote you a price. Since mine was his prototype, he could possibly make the stripes a litte darker. He told me even using the Pantone colors I gave him was no gaurentee he could match the color exactly. I guess in hindsight I might have been better off using his stock grey pearl color with the blue Pantone color code. Like I said, its good enough for me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Bishop Posted November 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2014 This company did my shifter ball in Grabber Orange. I'd say it's near perfect. https://www.speeddawg.com/shift-knobs I contacted speeddawg, they were not willing to make the knob the way I wanted without the shifter pattern and adding the CSM# if I recall. Plus, matching the non-metallic colors is much easier for the black, GO and white. Could you post a picture of yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.