Geneo4116 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Do the 2014 gt 500 already have oil separators on them from the factory??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenfelter Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedruM Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Get passenger side. It's cheap and takes about 25seconds to install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneo4116 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Do u really Need them,with a stock engine,or only if u do performance mods,I mean the factory don't install them,on this 662 hp engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperNC Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) From what I have deduced from many threads on the topic/conversations, the need for an oil separator depends on how you drive the car. If you get into the boost frequently and push the car hard, you need one and maybe both sides. Otherwise don't worry about it. Interestingly enough, I get into the boost in my car every time I drive my '09 and checked my hoses recently of which they were clean as a whistle with over 18,000 miles. Thus, I have not yet purchased an oil separator, but I intend to at some point. Edited February 20, 2014 by ViperNC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 With all due respect to Viper's comments, my experience is somewhat different. I've done NO performance mods to my car and I do NOT routinely drive it hard. That said, I get 1/2oz to 1oz of oil out of my passenger side separator for every 1K miles driven. Whether or not you consider that amount of vaporized oil being ingested into your intercooler a problem is what you need to consider when deciding whether to install a separator. Given the cost and ease of installation, I don't see a downside and agree with RedruM's advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Alibi 2 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 It is needed on the passenger side, would be more cosmetic on the driver side. Installed on both my cars......( it's YOUR intercooler ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedruM Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 The tubing and seperator are on piece that just clicks into position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneo4116 Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 COULD A DEALER VOID YOUR WARRANTTY OVER THIS IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO,YA KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF SQUIRLEY DEALERS OUT THERE TRYING ANYWAY THEY CAN TO SAVE THE MONEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperNC Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 With all due respect to Viper's comments, my experience is somewhat different. I've done NO performance mods to my car and I do NOT routinely drive it hard. That said, I get 1/2oz to 1oz of oil out of my passenger side separator for every 1K miles driven. Whether or not you consider that amount of vaporized oil being ingested into your intercooler a problem is what you need to consider when deciding whether to install a separator. Given the cost and ease of installation, I don't see a downside and agree with RedruM's advice. Absolutely agree that the cost vs. the potential benefits are in favor of the oil separator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedruM Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) COULD A DEALER VOID YOUR WARRANTTY OVER THIS IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO SO,YA KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF SQUIRLEY DEALERS OUT THERE TRYING ANYWAY THEY CAN TO SAVE THE MONEY That would almost be like voiding a warranty for an air filter. IMO. Never heard of it Edited February 20, 2014 by RedruM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007tungstenGT500 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) just keep a separate hose kit without the separator if you are really worried about a warranty issue. i can tell you they absolutely work and are a good investment. when i swapped the OEM Eaton for an FRPP TVS, the intercooler underneath was covered in oil. I have a glass separator and I can see exactly how much oil would have made it into my air intake system after the installation had i gone without it. i did not add one to my driver side because the hose and connectors looked completely dry. Edited February 20, 2014 by 2007tungstenGT500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billross Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 This talk about oil separators is making me consider getting one. My only concern is does the oil separator add any resistance to the flow of air through that PCV tube? I wouldn't want to add any restriction to that flow and run the risk of the PCV system not working properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obiefox Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Must resist....must not respond..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Ruchelski Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedruM Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 This talk about oil separators is making me consider getting one. My only concern is does the oil separator add any resistance to the flow of air through that PCV tube? I wouldn't want to add any restriction to that flow and run the risk of the PCV system not working properly. No. Get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billross Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hahaha, sounds like maybe Obiefox has strong feelings on the subject somehow? If this has been discussed on another thread, please post a link.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazierfreud Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just bought a 13' gt500 after selling my 09' gt500. the first mod I ordered was bob's ultimate oil separator. cheap insurance. I've talked to enough folks and seen enough pics of brownish intercoolers that it is worth the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperNC Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 I just bought a 13' gt500 after selling my 09' gt500. the first mod I ordered was bob's ultimate oil separator. cheap insurance. I've talked to enough folks and seen enough pics of brownish intercoolers that it is worth the money. You sold your '09???? Say it ain't so! That car was freakin' amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug_GT350 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Hahaha, sounds like maybe Obiefox has strong feelings on the subject somehow? If this has been discussed on another thread, please post a link..talk about picking a scab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperNC Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 talk about picking a scab! Yeah.... a scab that never heals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obiefox Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hey, you guys know I love you all and I just couldn't stop myself from having a little fun. I did a quick search on google for sheep and that picture made me laugh for 15 minutes. For the record, no I'm not a fan of the oil distillers and I have expressed that at length here and on SVTperf.... Great country we live in as we are mostly free to do what we want with our cars and I fully support everyone's right to put anything they want in their PCV tract!!! Peace... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obiefox Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 That would almost be like voiding a warranty for an air filter. IMO. Never heard of it I do a bunch of Jeep 4 wheeling when the weather will not let me get the Shelby or Terlingua out and I just read about a guy on one of my Jeep boards who just had his Chrysler warranty voided for using a oil/gauze type air filter.... Chrysler made the call that dirt got through it and caused the engine damage that he was experiencing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 If this has been discussed on another thread, please post a link.. Numerous threads available here and elsewhere (including SVTP and Ford GT500) on the topic of oil separators. Yeah.... a scab that never heals... Nothing the forum's Ignore User feature can't cure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
featurecar50 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hi, Just curious do I need to install a seperator on a 2014 GT with a stock 5.0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obiefox Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Numerous threads available here and elsewhere (including SVTP and Ford GT500) on the topic of oil separators. Nothing the forum's Ignore User feature can't cure... Yeah Norton, you should use the Ignore User feature on me since I simply disagree with the idea of installing a 3rd party device in the PCV system of a $31,000 engine that is still under warranty. What the hell am I thinking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 This talk about oil separators is making me consider getting one. My only concern is does the oil separator add any resistance to the flow of air through that PCV tube? I wouldn't want to add any restriction to that flow and run the risk of the PCV system not working properly. Many do. That's why we made ours different. Jer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJinLV Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) With all due respect to Viper's comments, my experience is somewhat different. I've done NO performance mods to my car and I do NOT routinely drive it hard. That said, I get 1/2oz to 1oz of oil out of my passenger side separator for every 1K miles driven. Whether or not you consider that amount of vaporized oil being ingested into your intercooler a problem is what you need to consider when deciding whether to install a separator. Given the cost and ease of installation, I don't see a downside and agree with RedruM's advice. I share Nortons experience, I get oil out of mine everytime I open it. Only the passenger side, the driver side has never had a drop. Many past threads describe the intake having an oil film and some describe oil pooling when taken apart. They dont hurt the engine or rob performance, so why not put one on for $100. Edited February 21, 2014 by WJinLV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullens Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 SA put two of those 3rd party devices on the Shelby 1000, whose engine is worth considerably more than $31k.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obiefox Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 And I'm sure Shelby will warranty them and the Shelby 1000 engine since they made the decision to install them. Last time I checked, Ford did not decide to install a separator on their factory warranted engine. I've never said that they didn't recapture some oil (what percentage is completely unknown), but I have said that I do not believe that they are warranty safe. To me, messing with the PCV system on an otherwise unmodified engine is just giving Ford an easy excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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