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So a few weeks ago I installed the Shelby/Corbeau harness bar. So with the bar installed in what I would call the straight-down position - meaning the support rods "pulling it to the floor", which is how I imagine is should be... there is a reasonable amount of recline and/or seat adjustment and the harness guides appear in the right position...

 

HOWEVER in that position that seems right... it comes out right in front of the seat belt retraction area. So once you pull the seat belt out... it doesn't retract. #1 this is annoying to not have the seat belt retract when you get out of the car and #2 (or maybe should be #1) if you pull any slack in the belt WHILE you are driving it doesn't snug back up and leaves the seat belt loose... which doesn't seem to be ideal for safety.

 

So first, please let's avoid the already done to death conversation of why harness bars = death and destruction. But the only way I know to get the bar out of the way of the sat belt retraction area is to reverse the tension on the support bars to the floor and have them "push" the bar up and forward. #1 this doesn't seem like how the bar is intended to sit and when I do the seats are nearly straight up... not comfortable at all.

 

Long story short... has anyone experienced something similar with their harness bar and how did you fix it?

 

PS - here is a pic... see how it sits right in front of the return? I need to swing it about 2" forward or backwards to be out of the way. But the bar's "home" position is right in the middle... WTH?

 

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It holds the belt up and forward over the shoulder, so you don't have to reach back as far.

In my case, I guess it keeps the belt up over the bar so it doesn't drag across the top of the bar. The belt appears to travel behind the bar the same in both cases.

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You can't buy the piece that holds the seat belt forward...I had those on my 2008 Shelby GT and when I bought my 2007 GT500, that was one of the first things I noticed missing...Ford says you have to replace the entire seat belt assembly to get those...they don't sell them as a part...I have tried...

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So a few weeks ago I installed the Shelby/Corbeau harness bar. So with the bar installed in what I would call the straight-down position - meaning the support rods "pulling it to the floor", which is how I imagine is should be... there is a reasonable amount of recline and/or seat adjustment and the harness guides appear in the right position...

 

HOWEVER in that position that seems right... it comes out right in front of the seat belt retraction area. So once you pull the seat belt out... it doesn't retract. #1 this is annoying to not have the seat belt retract when you get out of the car and #2 (or maybe should be #1) if you pull any slack in the belt WHILE you are driving it doesn't snug back up and leaves the seat belt loose... which doesn't seem to be ideal for safety.

 

So first, please let's avoid the already done to death conversation of why harness bars = death and destruction. But the only way I know to get the bar out of the way of the sat belt retraction area is to reverse the tension on the support bars to the floor and have them "push" the bar up and forward. #1 this doesn't seem like how the bar is intended to sit and when I do the seats are nearly straight up... not comfortable at all.

 

Long story short... has anyone experienced something similar with their harness bar and how did you fix it?

 

PS - here is a pic... see how it sits right in front of the return? I need to swing it about 2" forward or backwards to be out of the way. But the bar's "home" position is right in the middle... WTH?

 

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My first thought would be a picture that is in focus.

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My first thought would be a picture that is in focus.

I hope your second thought is more valuable than your first... Everyone else seems to see what I'm talking about just fine.

 

You can't buy the piece that holds the seat belt forward...I had those on my 2008 Shelby GT and when I bought my 2007 GT500, that was one of the first things I noticed missing...Ford says you have to replace the entire seat belt assembly to get those...they don't sell them as a part...I have tried...

You can't buy them?! WTF? Great. So... any other ideas? Or does anyone know where I can find them aftermarket or salvage maybe?

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I hope your second thought is more valuable than your first... Everyone else seems to see what I'm talking about just fine.

 

You can't buy them?! WTF? Great. So... any other ideas? Or does anyone know where I can find them aftermarket or salvage maybe?

 

This maybe an overly simplified solution, but have you tried removing the harness bar and then running the rear portion of the belt in front of the harness bar? Just a thought.

 

Mark

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This maybe an overly simplified solution, but have you tried removing the harness bar and then running the rear portion of the belt in front of the harness bar? Just a thought.

 

Mark

 

I see what you mean and yes, that's how I started (technically incorrect according to Corbeau). But when the seat belt wouldn't retract in that position, I thought oh it will be fine once I take that whole thing out and route them properly... except... it didn't help. Somewhat frustrating as you can imagine.

 

Not only that, but now I'm getting an airbag dash light, so I have a feeling that the seatbelt not retracting is triggering that in some way. Makes sense... it's not the safest scenario.

 

1. I'm floored that they engineer the bar to be RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of the belt return and...

2. I'm floored that they don't sell the belt "hangers" - pictured above - separately.

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I see what you mean and yes, that's how I started (technically incorrect according to Corbeau). But when the seat belt wouldn't retract in that position, I thought oh it will be fine once I take that whole thing out and route them properly... except... it didn't help. Somewhat frustrating as you can imagine.

 

Not only that, but now I'm getting an airbag dash light, so I have a feeling that the seatbelt not retracting is triggering that in some way. Makes sense... it's not the safest scenario.

 

1. I'm floored that they engineer the bar to be RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of the belt return and...

2. I'm floored that they don't sell the belt "hangers" - pictured above - separately.

I kinda figured it was a little more complicated that what I had suggested, but you were looking for ideas and, well, I gave it a shot.

 

Sounds like its time to say hello to eBay/salvage yards and what have you to see if the holders are available. I can tell you this and I'm sure it doesn't help much, but my 2010 has them.

 

Good luck,

Mark

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I can tell you this and I'm sure it doesn't help much, but my 2010 has them.

Actually, that may help. Oh btw, where did you say you live again... And do you happen to lock your garage at night?

 

Just kidding... But seriously... Do you? LOL

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Actually, that may help. Oh btw, where did you say you live again... And do you happen to lock your garage at night?

 

Just kidding... But seriously... Do you? LOL

Yep, Double alarm system, nasty dog, several shotguns and beer guzzling redneck neighbors who like my Mustang more than me. Oh, did I mention I live in Kansas?

 

Hope you are able to find what you are looking for west of the Kansas border.............. :banghead:

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Yep, Double alarm system, nasty dog, several shotguns and redneck neighbors who like my Mustang. Oh, did I mention I live in Kansas?

 

Hope you are able to find what you are looking for west of the Kansas border.............. :banghead:

noted. Think ill go check ebay! ;)

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