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I got 27K out of my original set on my 2011, running them right down to the wear bars. Tire shop said they had never seen more than 23K on Goodyear F1 tires before. When running them, I only spun the tires a handful of times, never hit the track and despite some spirited driving, most of the miles were my comute to work on the highway.

BTW, I switched to Continental ExtremeContact and like them much better. They hook up better on quick acceleration. The Conti also run well on the track in additional to being a great DD option.

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I got 29K out of mine.Like barspen I was down to the wear bars on the rear. At the end she would loose traction getting on the freeway. I also replaced mine with Continental ExtremeContact DW. Mine is a DD also.

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Michelin Pilot Sports now have stock sizes.

 

Michelin Pilot Super Sports suck in the rain. Don't ask me how I know.

They are a fantastic tire in the dry, *significantly* better than the F1 Supercar. I ran a 12.3 quarter mile at 119 with the PSS. The first time I drove in the rain with them on, I couldn't slowly pull away from a stoplight without spinning the tires. I bought the PSS in large part due to their claims at being fantastic in the rain (I live in the PNW). I didn't expect them to stick like the pavement was dry, but I sure as hell expected them to be at least as good as a 6 year old Goodyear with 10k miles on it. Nope. Not even close.

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I got a whopping 12,000 out of the Goodyear tires and I never spun them up from a stand still. Just hard cornering. They suck below 50 degrees and are only OK otherwise. Go with the Michelins as previously noted by others and just don't plan to take your car out in the rain if possible. All performance tires suck in the rain as they are designed to be high performance summer tires. If you want tires that work in the rain, go get some all season tires.

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I got 25k out of the first set and could have gone farther except one front was eating up on the inside. I'm at about 20k on the second set and at about that mileage they begin to grind. Feels like a pad digging into a disc, except you can feel it in the clutch pedal too. Very annoying, but I got another $100 set in the shop waiting for these to wear out. BTW, I got another front scalloping out on the inside......other side this time!

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I got a whopping 12,000 out of the Goodyear tires and I never spun them up from a stand still. Just hard cornering. They suck below 50 degrees and are only OK otherwise. Go with the Michelins as previously noted by others and just don't plan to take your car out in the rain if possible. All performance tires suck in the rain as they are designed to be high performance summer tires. If you want tires that work in the rain, go get some all season tires.

 

You didn't read my post very thoroughly. No tire will be as good in the rain as it is in the dry. I was perfectly happy with the performance of the stock Goodyear F1 Supercar tires in the rain. I was led to believe by many reviews and articles that the Michelin PSS tires were the best in the rain of any performance tire. That could *not* be farther from the truth. I have a set of Toyo R-888 competition tires on another Mustang that perform better in the rain than the PSS tires I put on my Shelby.

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I read your post and completely understood what you are saying. You live in an area of the country where it rains a lot and you want to drive your car without worrying about getting caught in the rain/having grip issues with your tires. Interestingly, here is the info about your Toyo's straight from Tire Rack's site:

 

The Proxes R888 is Toyo’s Racetrack & Autocross Only tire for driving enthusiasts participating in road racing, track days and high-performance driving schools. The Proxes R888’s advancements in casing and tread design improve dry performance while maintaining wet traction and control.

While Proxes R888 radials meet DOT requirements, they are not recommended for driving in wet conditions when shaved or worn where standing water is present and there is the risk of hydroplaning; drivers should drive cautiously at reduced speeds if they encounter these conditions. And like all Racetrack & Autocross Only tires, Proxes R888 radials are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. It’s also essential these tires be stored indoors at temperatures maintained above 15 degrees F. Proxes R888 tires feature a R-Compound Tread that maximizes grip for better competitive handling and performance. This compound is molded into a directional V-shaped tread design featuring increased tread area and limited void to improve dry traction while the V-shaped grooves assist with wet traction. Semi-slick shoulder areas improve grip for better steering response while a continuous center contact increases braking performance and dry traction. The tire’s internal structure features an advanced competition modified radial construction for driving hard through the corners and accelerating quickly onto the straight-aways.

 

The Michelin's are not Racetrack & Autocross only tires, but are definitely summer high performance and too your point are awesome in the dry. My point is there are not going to be any really good performance tires that work well in the rain. You obviously had a bad experience in the rain with those tires, but I'd suggest that could have happened with any performance tire. The Goodyear's that came on my 09 car where absolutely terrible in the wet and I have noticed the Michelin's are slightly better, but not confidence inspiring. Its probably less about the water on the road and more about the dirt, oil, grease, etc. that makes the streets slick when it rains. As I'm sure you are more than aware, performance cars and performance tires don't like those conditions at all. I'm fortunate that my car does not see the rain unless I'm caught by surprise. If you do come across an excellent performance rain tire, please share!

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The very best performance tires I ever drove in the wet were the Firestone SZ50, which has been discontinued. I ran those for years on a '98 Cobra, two sets on the front, three on the rear, and they never once gave me any drama on any surface. Unlike the stock BFG tires that came on that car, which got downright scary if the ground was wet. I've been told that the Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position is the successor to the SZ50, but I haven't used one myself.

 

Contrast that with the GT500. While I was never happy with the Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar tire in terms of outright dry performance, I never once had an out of control situation in the wet (or dry, for that matter). ANY time you push a high horsepower car in a limited traction environment, you are going to lose your grip. We all know that. The key is controlling your car once the tires break loose. The BFG's on my '98 were difficult to control once they broke loose, the Pilot Super Sports are worse. I have spun a car exactly 3 times, once on old Cooper Cobra tires, once on the stock BFG tires in my '98, and now once with the PSS tires. The first two times I was fortunate that the car I was driving sustained no damage. Not so lucky this last time.

 

I might try a set of the S-04 tires out on my stock rims, keep the PSS tires for summer only use for a while.

And I agree, the R-888 would be dangerous in the wet if worn or shaved. Mine are starting to show some wear, but still have good grooves. I've only been caught in the rain on one trip, two days of driving in light rain, and I was cautious, but I had no issues whatsoever. Even being cautious with the PSS tires, I was dumbfounded how poor the grip was.

 

This has been a painful lesson for me. I grew up in Montana and spent my formative years sliding various vehicles through mud, snow and ice. I consider myself skilled at controlling a vehicle that does not have full traction. When my Shelby slipped on a wet road, I barely blinked, I just eased off the throttle and steered into. The car then did a complete 180, and I started to worry, but clutched in and steered into that one too. That resulted in a 270, and I was going backwards down the road at 40mph. At that point I straightened the car out and planted the brakes, hoping ABS would do its job. Sadly, that didn't happen. I ended up with the back of the car submerged in a water-filled ditch, and the front bumper fascia wrapped around a pole.

 

At least I can talk about it now.

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Lance, I plan on buying a set of all season tires for my extra set of wheels. After reading about your experience, I am very interested in finding out what would be the best all season tire for the weather here in Washington and Oregon during the fall and winter months. My car will be driven a lot during those months once I retire. I see jimmy almost has your car done and I am looking forward to seeing it in person this coming year. I am sure glad you were not hurt and that your car was repairable. Rob.

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Thanks Rob. Almost done isn't quite accurate though, the insurance dance was rather delayed, and work just started on my car Tuesday. So, it will be a little while yet. No worries though. I've been doing some research on the tires, and I'll let you know what I find out. The S-04 isn't made in the OEM GT500 size for the rear, but the RE050 is, and is highly rated for wet performance.

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The Bridgestones are the preferred tire for Ford GTs. I never even drove mine with the original Goodyears after my experience with the equivalent on the Cobra and similar "hockey pucks" on the Shelby GTs. I still don't drive very aggressively until I've got some run time on them but they are 100 times better than the original tires. The down sides are

 

(1) They are sticky, not nearly as much as drag radials or racing slicks but still gravel sticks to them and gets thrown so they are not "grit" tolerant

 

(2) They are soft compounded so they don't have great tread wear. I'm thinking I might get 5000 miles tops, maybe less if I want any active tread.

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Thanks Tony, good to know. The Michelin PSS tires are fairly sticky too, definitely gravel magnets. That alone didn't help in wet situations. I don't put very many annual miles on any of my cars, so I'm not overly concerned with tread wear ratings, especially if I can get fantastic grip both wet and dry.

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Just wondering, under normal city/highway driving what is the typical mileage can I expect from these tires?

have a brand new set front and rear never been mounted- purchased from Shelby when they knew the 18s were going extinct- my 07 has 7000 miles on the original tires but nitto drag radials on the back- traction issue you know.

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I've run the Continental ExtremeContract DWS version of the tire two set now and they've been impressive on my 08 GT500. Some people don't believe me, but these tires when new give me better traction in the rain than the stock F1's did in the DRY. I certainly can't plant the pedal to the floor in rain or anything, but if I'm smooth enough I can take off without too much drama. The goodyears were terrible in the rain or dry. I drive with trac control off in the dry and on in the wet if that helps others compare.

 

Last I checked they didn't make the DWS in the stock 285/40/18 size but they do make a 275/40/18 which i've run and had no issue with. Now that the 500 isn't my daily anymore I want to try the DW version of that tire.

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Lance, I plan on buying a set of all season tires for my extra set of wheels. After reading about your experience, I am very interested in finding out what would be the best all season tire for the weather here in Washington and Oregon during the fall and winter months. My car will be driven a lot during those months once I retire. I see jimmy almost has your car done and I am looking forward to seeing it in person this coming year. I am sure glad you were not hurt and that your car was repairable. Rob.

Rob,

You may want to check with Shannon. He has the Cooper RS3A's on his Bullitt and I believe he drives in all kinds of our wonderful PNW weather. Although I'm uncertain if they come in the size you may want for your GT500.

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