SGT0767 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 FWIW, below is a link to an article that is stating that there is no Boss 302 slated for 2014. ttp://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblog.aspx?feat=368fdc3c-4c9c-45df-9d8b-c2d806256ddb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 http://rumors.automobilemag.com/no-302-for-2014-ford-mustang-boss-302-gone-after-2013-model-year-183855.html http://wot.motortrend.com/confirmed-ford-mustang-boss-302-not-returning-for-2014-model-year-288985.html http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/no-reprieve-for-ford-mustang-boss-302-in-2014.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Rodgers Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 No surprise here, it did not sell well because Dealers insisted on ADM's, if they would just have treated them like a regular mustang and taken $500 over invoice or so they would have turned them quickly and it would not have looked like a flop. Such a crime that dealers do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 No surprise here, it did not sell well because Dealers insisted on ADM's, if they would just have treated them like a regular mustang and taken $500 over invoice or so they would have turned them quickly and it would not have looked like a flop. Such a crime that dealers do this. The ADM's are definitely stupid, but they played no part in Ford's decision for a 2 year run of the Boss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseygator Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 The ADM's are definitely stupid, but they played no part in Ford's decision for a 2 year run of the Boss... You don't think that if they had sold more than planned they would have extended the run? E.g. Like the GT500. Ford is into making money. Yes? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 No surprise here, it did not sell well because Dealers insisted on ADM's, if they would just have treated them like a regular mustang and taken $500 over invoice or so they would have turned them quickly and it would not have looked like a flop. Such a crime that dealers do this. I agree totally.....................This is the reason they stopped producing the Lincoln Blackwood early. They were not selling because the Dealers had a $10K to $20K ADM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boss Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The plan from the very beginning was to build 3250 regular and 750 Laguna Seca models each year for 2 years. They executed the plan pretty much perfectly. They have sold almost all of them and the dealers made good money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 It is not unexpected. The original was a 2 year run. I thought I'd seen this stated early. I hope no one waited to get one thinking it would be I expe t a Boss 351 will appear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 A Boss 351 would be the 5.8 and there is already talk it will not fit in the next gen Mustang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Yes, If it is all true that Ford had planned to stick to the original two years run of the BOSS 302...we should see a one year run of a BOSS 351...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 A Boss 351 would be the 5.8 and there is already talk it will not fit in the next gen Mustang. Yes but a 14 is this generation. It would have the same engine as the GT500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 Yes the 14' is going to be the last S197 and the 5.8 fits, of course. Last chance, but could just be! Let's pray... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseygator Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 The plan from the very beginning was to build 3250 regular and 750 Laguna Seca models each year for 2 years. They executed the plan pretty much perfectly. They have sold almost all of them and the dealers made good money. I know a dealer that has been sitting on a used 2012 (Orange with 16k for $43) for 3 months and a 2013 (SBY for $54) for almost 5 months. Awfully dirty sitting in the lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firepro Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 If they do a BOSS 351 how will it stack up to 302 and 500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 If they do a BOSS 351 how will it stack up to 302 and 500? It won't be supercharged. Track handling package oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnf Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 I have heard Boss 351 or possibly Mach 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Rodgers Posted November 11, 2012 Report Share Posted November 11, 2012 You don't think that if they had sold more than planned they would have extended the run? E.g. Like the GT500. Ford is into making money. Yes? No? Exactly, who remembers their plan for the GT500??? Bottom line if they sold they would be making it again. Also there are a ton of them still available and some dealers STILL want ADM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tko211 Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I always understood and expected the Boss program to be a finishing note on the current platform. I never expected the Boss to be on the new 2014 car. The Shelby GT500 program might have started as a "limited run" but in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2013 it became all too clear that it really was just a High performance extension of the SVT Cobra program. That is why Shelby American offers the Super Snakes for the 500's. It's truly more than a performance upgrade. Equally so- It's also a chance to convert your SVT Shelby into something that is rare, truly putting Shelby's hand directly into the vehicle. Now, I'm not here to dispute or diminish the legitimacy of the GT500 being a REAL Shelby... Shelby American has said so themselves, so it's not just an SVT cobra... BUT- I would point out that there are THOUSANDS of them. and not like 2,000 or 5,000 or even 10,000... Over time the old tried and true model will prove out. (you see where I am going) The name of the game is Supply and Demand. I think over time you will see cars like the GT500 KR, the Super Snakes, the GT350's and to a slightly lesser degree the SGT's (H) and Terlinguas emerge as the must haves. The Boss 302 long term is also a likely to join the same ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helix Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 The Mach 1 only had been planned for 2 years before a rework; not surprising the Boss would run the same route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyGJ Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'd love to see Ford do a 2014 Boss 351 as a limited one year run. It would make a few of the Boss 302s more in my price range a few years down the road when I can afford to pick up a used Race Red Boss 302 (2013 year model preferred). Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickshelby Posted November 12, 2012 Report Share Posted November 12, 2012 I always understood and expected the Boss program to be a finishing note on the current platform. I never expected the Boss to be on the new 2014 car. The Shelby GT500 program might have started as a "limited run" but in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2013 it became all too clear that it really was just a High performance extension of the SVT Cobra program. That is why Shelby American offers the Super Snakes for the 500's. It's truly more than a performance upgrade. Equally so- It's also a chance to convert your SVT Shelby into something that is rare, truly putting Shelby's hand directly into the vehicle. Now, I'm not here to dispute or diminish the legitimacy of the GT500 being a REAL Shelby... Shelby American has said so themselves, so it's not just an SVT cobra... BUT- I would point out that there are THOUSANDS of them. and not like 2,000 or 5,000 or even 10,000... Over time the old tried and true model will prove out. (you see where I am going) The name of the game is Supply and Demand. I think over time you will see cars like the GT500 KR, the Super Snakes, the GT350's and to a slightly lesser degree the SGT's (H) and Terlinguas emerge as the must haves. The Boss 302 long term is also a likely to join the same ranks. So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Does anyone know the number of Boss 302's produced in 2012? The reason I ask is I am curious how the Boss 302 will compare, someday, in collectability when compared to the Shelby GT. There were approximately 8,000 SGT's produced in 2007-08. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09 Red GT500 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Similar numbers. 3250 "regular" Boss 302s and 750 LS models for each model year, so 4000 total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckySnake Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Bought a RR Boss last night, hoping it arrives today. She has the Recaro / Torsen option. I have the VIN but don't know what the specific build number is yet. I have been thinking about trading my GT500 for a KR or a BOSS for awhile and was finaly able to make a deal I can live with. Wanted an LS but wifey and I are hooked on Red. I knew with the 500A and 501 option deleted from the 2014 line up, these will go away pretty quick. No ADM. I'm just a little bit excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I think you have the potential for a real collectible car in the future. Very good choice. What is the 500 A and 501 options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckySnake Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 I think you have the potential for a real collectible car in the future. Very good choice. What is the 500 A and 501 options? Thank you for the compliment about choice. I am stoked! The 500A is Boss Equipment Group and I think 501 is LS. It didn't show up today so I'm hoping for Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali_KR Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Does anyone know the number of Boss 302's produced in 2012? The reason I ask is I am curious how the Boss 302 will compare, someday, in collectability when compared to the Shelby GT. There were approximately 8,000 SGT's produced in 2007-08. Thoughts? as requested...my understanding is these numbers are close, but not 100%, and not "official"..certainly not for 2013 yet 4013 cars for 2012 MY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckySnake Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 as requested...my understanding is these numbers are close, but not 100%, and not "official"..certainly not for 2013 yet 4013 cars for 2012 MY Do you know if several roll off the line in sequence? I noticed my Certificate of Origin is dated October 22, 2012, same date as posted stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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