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2013 TVS, VMP 2.4" pulley and VMP tune...installed!


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I ordered my '13 TVS from Tousley last week and it arrived on Monday. At the same time I ordered the 2.4 stainless steel pulley from VMP and had Justin do the tune for me. The pulley arrived on Monday as well and Justin emailed me the tune today. From start to finish, it took about 2 hours

to do the supercharger swap. If you're on the fence about doing this yourself, it's very easy. Just label all the bolts you take out so you know where

they go when you put the new blower in. When I took the blower bolts out, I actually layed them out exactly the way they were in the stock blower so each would go back in the same hole I took them from. Probably didn't have to go that far, but you never know if one may be threaded a little different and seat a bit differently than another.

 

I've read the stories and seen the videos of what a difference a TVS makes on these cars. But I have to admit, I didn't expect the overall jump in

power this car picked up. The difference in power going from a stock pulley on the Eaton to a 2.59 or 2.5 is really nice. The TVS turns these cars

into a complete animal! The torque you feel at about 4,000 RPM in 4th gear when you just roll on the throttle til you hit full boost is mind numbing and very, very addicting.

 

Justin's tune is spot on as far as driveability. Just tooling around in normal driving conditions, the car feels 100% factory stock. Hit the gas about 1/2 throttle and things change in a big way. It's amazing that for less than $3,000 you can turn a 550 horsepower GT500 into a firebreathing 750 horsepower monster!

 

For the time being, I left the stock 60 mm throttle body on. (didn't have enough money to order the 65mm Cobra Jet). That'll probably be something I do over the winter...but in all honesty, for street driving, the car doesn't need it.

 

I'm running the TR6's gapped at .035 which seems to be working great. But I wonder if there's a better plug for my setup. Any input on that would be greatly appreciated.

 

Also, at what point do you have to start thinking about larger injectors? I'm guessing my car is now running from 16 to 17lbs of boost....since the factory boost gauge sucks so bad, I have no way of knowing exactly how much. Does anyone know how much boost this setup does make?

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Wow. The TVS, pulley & tune took your 5.4L to 750hp? That's phenomenal!

 

Makes me want to get a 2.9L Whipple for my '13 and move the TVS over to my '12 for a dirt cheap one-two punch.

 

I wonder if anybody's managed to successfully mate the 5.8 and 2.9L Whipple yet.

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Wow. The TVS, pulley & tune took your 5.4L to 750hp? That's phenomenal!

 

Makes me want to get a 2.9L Whipple for my '13 and move the TVS over to my '12 for a dirt cheap one-two punch.

 

I wonder if anybody's managed to successfully mate the 5.8 and 2.9L Whipple yet.

 

 

Honestly, the 750 horsepower number is just a guess. With the 2.4" pulley it should be in the neighborhood of 650 rwhp...again, just a guess. At a 15% drivetrain loss

that would put it around 765 at the crank. I'll know for sure once I get it dyno'd. Hopefully next week.

 

Absolutely, if you get the Whipple for your '13, throw the TVS on your '12...or sell your '12 and get your '13 SuperSnaked like my hero, Amigo!!!

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Absolutely, if you get the Whipple for your '13, throw the TVS on your '12...or sell your '12 and get your '13 SuperSnaked like my hero, Amigo!!!

 

 

Not a huge fan of the '13 Snake, unfortunately. Had high hopes and like the wide body kit option very much, but it just doesn't appeal to me as much as the '12 - which I COULD enjoy turning into a Super Snake with the WBK and if they'd ever support a red stripe. Otherwise, the '12 Coupe MAY become a '14 'Vert - or perhaps a '14 GT-350.

 

We'll see.

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Newbie here!

That sound great! 700hp+ !!!But much better is the price!

I spoke to Steve @ Tousley and on October 26 ford racing will launch the 5.8 Supercharger with the elbow and Throttle body from the cobra jet! All for around $2800+

Looking forward to get mine!

Nice car Crush!

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Doesn't the kit come with a new throttle body? According to the specs it does. Or are you referring to the "stock" TB that came with the kit versus an uprated TB for the CJ?

 

I'm surprised Ford doesn't offer a complete kit with Pro-Cal that would at least give folks the option of an FR-vetted tune.

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Waiting for my SVT-TVS with CJ 65mm TB and 70lb injectors, plus new tune, for my 12'

Should be more or less equivalent to what CRUSHINATOR is having, in term of OOOOMMMPH.... :)

 

Will post pics when installing.

Those SVT-TVS really are getting popular!

 

Looking forward to your pics and install thread. Awesome.

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Waiting for my SVT-TVS with CJ 65mm TB and 70lb injectors, plus new tune, for my 12'

Should be more or less equivalent to what CRUSHINATOR is having, in term of OOOOMMMPH.... :)

 

Will post pics when installing.

Those SVT-TVS really are getting popular!

 

 

What made the TVS more attractive than the 2.9L FR Whipple?

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Doesn't the kit come with a new throttle body? According to the specs it does. Or are you referring to the "stock" TB that came with the kit versus an uprated TB for the CJ?

I'm surprised Ford doesn't offer a complete kit with Pro-Cal that would at least give folks the option of an FR-vetted tune.

 

At this time, I think the kit is not available yet / It will be: The TVS + elbow + monoblade oval CJ TB + belt (NO TUNE).

http://mustangsdaily.com/blog/2012/09/28/new-product-ford-racing-tvs-supercharger-upgrade-kit-for-the-2007-2012-shelby-gt500/

I ordered all parts separately and did not choose the oval TB but the twin 65mm CJ TB

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What made the TVS more attractive than the 2.9L FR Whipple?

 

 

I was about to buy the Whipple from SA this summer but did not, and now...

 

1st: I have a buddy who has one and he was not any faster than my VMP-TVS equipped 2007, when we raced each other...

2nd: I know of someone else in my area who runs one and admits he is a bit disappointed.

3rd: I wanted a stock look (more or less) for my 2012.

4th: Cheap kit for +/- same results if you stay basic.

 

But the Whipple from SA is the SS supercharger, and that should mean something to most, and I agree it does make a difference!

And it might very well be that it has more potential for radical boost levels than the SVT TVS...but then there is the Kenne Bell !

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I spoke to Steve @ Tousley and on October 26 ford racing will launch the 5.8 Supercharger with the elbow and Throttle body from the cobra jet! All for around $2800+

Looking forward to get mine!

 

 

Huh? I'm confused.

 

Ford Racing (fordracingparts.com) has had the 2.3L TVS out for awhile now.

 

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=22954

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  • Fits: 2007-2012 Mustang Shelby GT500 5.4L engine

  • TVS Supercharger unit from 2013 Mustang Shelby GT500 program

  • Supercharger rotors feature four lobes with a 160-degree twist

  • Custom calibration required

  • Does not include sensors

  • Supercharger belt may not work for all GT500 model years, custom belt may be required

 

Kit includes:

  • 2.3L Twin Vortices Series (TVS) supercharger features 4-lobe rotors and 68 mm pulley

  • Cobra Jet Oval Throttle Body M-9926-SCJ

  • Supercharger to throttle body elbow

  • 2013 GT500 Supercharger Belt

  • Fuel rail with crossover, P/N DR3Z-9F792-B , provides adequate clearance to supercharger

  • Fuel injector retainer clips

 

 

 

 

What is Steve talking about, something different than this?

 

 

Phill

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He is talking about that kit.

It sells for a little less than $3000.-

It has not been available before. It should just be available now...

Before that you could get a few 2013 SVT-TVS superchargers and elbow...only as OEM Ford spare parts (not FRPP kit).

And I was just saying that I did not get the same oval TB cause I bought the TVS as OEM Ford spare parts (through a TS fellow member btw).

In the kit you have:

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I bought:

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It has not been available before. It should just be available now.

 

 

Well that's where I'm confused.

 

The OP said Steve says it will be available Oct. 26. It's been on the FRPP site for about 1 month (it's in the "New Parts" within the last 30 days).

 

I also noticed it says it includes a set of fuel rails and cross-over that clears the TVS. Is the FRPP 2.3L TVS for the 5.8 bigger than the old one? I've never known anyone to need new fuel rails or cross-over...

 

 

Phill

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Do not know.

Besides the belt, to my knowledge, no one having done the swap wrote about the fuel rails and/or the crossover as being a problem......yet (?).

If you look at CRUSHINATORS pictures, on this thread, it shows the crossover being against the TVS but it seems to fit all right...

I have SHELBY fuel rails with a rear crossover in case...

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What Steve told me was that he had three '13 TVS superchargers in stock with the elbow. He is getting the Ford Racing kits that include the throttlebody and belt,

but doesn't have them in stock yet. I believe the price for that kit is around $2,900. (but don't quote me on that) He gave me an additional discount on my '13

blower since the new kit is coming out. My price for the '13 blower was $2,300 and $196 for the elbow. It's the same blower, they just added the throttlebody and belt

for the Ford Racing kit.

 

Not sure why anyone would need fuel rails and a crossover.

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What's unfortunate about the FRPP add-on is that it's emblazoned with the great big "5.8" which looks hellacious ON an actual 5.8, but kind of gives wankerish poseurs an excuse to rag somebody with a 5.4.

 

It's being oblivious to these little touches that demonstrate how insular and inbred so much of the auto sector is to anything having to do to with consumer goods or the retail marketplace despite comprising such large parts of BOTH.

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What's unfortunate about the FRPP add-on is that it's emblazoned with the great big "5.8" which looks hellacious ON an actual 5.8, but kind of gives wankerish poseurs an excuse to rag somebody with a 5.4. It's being oblivious to these little touches that demonstrate how insular and inbred so much of the auto sector is to anything having to do to with consumer goods or the retail marketplace despite comprising such large parts of BOTH.

 

 

Honestly, the "5.8" wouldn't bother me a bit - I personally wouldn't give it a second thought. You could get it grinded off if it bothered you that much. Or my other solution would be to get some type of metal plate with a ford racing logo or such and shape it and attach it over the "5.8".

 

But heck...it's not like you drive around with the hood open...the only time anyone is ever going to see it is if you are at a show or someone asks you to see the engine.

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But heck...it's not like you drive around with the hood open...the only time anyone is ever going to see it is if you are at a show or someone asks you to see the engine.

 

 

And you can't tell the difference between a 5.4L and a 5.8L by the outward appearance.

 

Whose to say it's not a 5.8?

 

 

Phill

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I know I like the idea but have to agree, I would have to grind and smooth off the 5.8. Just me knowing it would bug me. I think some has ground it off allready on SVTperformance if I remem correctly.

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Honestly, the "5.8" wouldn't bother me a bit - I personally wouldn't give it a second thought. You could get it grinded off if it bothered you that much. Or my other solution would be to get some type of metal plate with a ford racing logo or such and shape it and attach it over the "5.8".

 

But heck...it's not like you drive around with the hood open...the only time anyone is ever going to see it is if you are at a show or someone asks you to see the engine.

 

 

Honestly, a LOT of people DO frequently show their engine compartments, as evidenced by the massive dress-up market.

 

An the fact that it COULD'VE been so easily accommodated during manufacture, especially compared to doing so after the fact, really proves my point about the sector's many blind spots to how the outside world operates.

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Honestly, a LOT of people DO frequently show their engine compartments, as evidenced by the massive dress-up market.

 

An the fact that it COULD'VE been so easily accommodated during manufacture, especially compared to doing so after the fact, really proves my point about the sector's many blind spots to how the outside world operates.

 

 

I agree in a way, I really would have thought when Ford Racing started selling it as kits to upgrade the would have got rid of the 5.8 at least

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I know I like the idea but have to agree, I would have to grind and smooth off the 5.8. Just me knowing it would bug me. I think some has ground it off allready on SVTperformance if I remem correctly.

 

 

I saw one on svtPerf and it looked really good. You couldn't tell the 5.8 was there if you didn't know it.

 

 

Phill

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I agree in a way, I really would have thought when Ford Racing started selling it as kits to upgrade the would have got rid of the 5.8 at least

 

 

They would have to make a different mold to do it, separate part numbers, inventory, etc. etc. etc.

 

It would be SO much easier to make one unit only rather than two, I totally understand why Ford/FRPP would keep the displacement designation on it.

 

 

Phill

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