David Hawkins Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 If SAI offered a High Performance "AUTOMATIC" Transmission for the GT 500's to be installed only by their MOD Shops, would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 The poll title says automatic but the topic says "high performance" (implying it could be an upgraded manual). Which? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 The poll title says automatic but the topic says "high performance" (implying it could be an upgraded manual). Which? Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Greenwell Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 An automatic in a GT 500 would be about the only thing that I might consider selling my SGT/BJ for. I just don't want to shift anymore. GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007tungstenGT500 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 he11 no. that's sacrilegious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8MS-01904 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 For myself, no but there is a market out there that could be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Lights Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'd do it given I want to keep the car forever but my lower back won't let me use the clutch pedal forever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YZD263 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 For myself, no but there is a market out there that could be had. +1. Although I wouldn't buy one, with the new dual clutch technology, the more sophisticated automatics are now as good if not better than a manual from a pure performance standpoint. This could certainly be a legitimate option for those who don't want to (or can't) shift temselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 he11 no. that's sacrilegious. You'd be surprised at new automatic transmissions. I had two identical cars (Shelby GTs), one with the 5-speed, and one automatic. The automatic shifted virtually every time at exactly the time I predicted I would shift if I had the manual. Automatics don't miss gears at the drag strip. When I went to Bandimere I was surprised at how many "semi pros" had autos. The problem with autos is they tend to not be able to handle the torque and HP of high output engines, and those that do are pricey. So if there is an auto that can handle the power of a GT500 with margin, it could be a seller... Mods would also have to be done to the transmission tunnel and the covers/bezels. It would be a mechanical modification to the base car. I'd be worried about structural integrity in that area since the auto is bigger. Also, what about the pedals? Most automatic cars have a bigger brake pedal. You could remove the clutch pedal but would have to replace the brake pedal. Again, not impossible but I can see this being a very expensive mod... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted September 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 You'd be surprised at new automatic transmissions. I had two identical cars (Shelby GTs), one with the 5-speed, and one automatic. The automatic shifted virtually every time at exactly the time I predicted I would shift if I had the manual. Automatics don't miss gears at the drag strip. When I went to Bandimere I was surprised at how many "semi pros" had autos. The problem with autos is they tend to not be able to handle the torque and HP of high output engines, and those that do are pricey. So if there is an auto that can handle the power of a GT500 with margin, it could be a seller... Mods would also have to be done to the transmission tunnel and the covers/bezels. It would be a mechanical modification to the base car. I'd be worried about structural integrity in that area since the auto is bigger. Also, what about the pedals? Most automatic cars have a bigger brake pedal. You could remove the clutch pedal but would have to replace the brake pedal. Again, not impossible but I can see this being a very expensive mod... So your saying that the Mustangs have two different Transmission Tunnels, one for Manuals and one for Automatics? I don't think Ford would change the Structure of the Mustang Body just for the transmission. The V6, GT and Shelby GT 500 should have the same Body, inside & out, top to bottom, front to back, with the defferences in the Bodies being just cosmetics. I have switched from 4 Speeds to Automatics and Automatics to 4 Speeds in older Stangs with no problems and I think the process would be the same in the New Cars, Labor wiise. The most time being spent on the new Cars would be Computer Codeing for the Automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Reed Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I would consider it only if they can create a automatic that would simulate the 1-2 grind. I wouldn't do it, but it would be a cool option, especially if it resulted in improved track times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springer Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Absolutely. It's long overdue for Ford. Should have been done years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 With a nice ratchet shifter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Johnston Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I started enquiries a year ago but to no avail, about automatics for the GT500 and GT350 (both the 525 and 624 HP). There has been no statement about what the HP or TQ rating is for the Ford automatic. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Maybe if it was a dual clutch paddle shifted ferrari automatiic tramsmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSGT Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I started enquiries a year ago but to no avail, about automatics for the GT500 and GT350 (both the 525 and 624 HP). There has been no statement about what the HP or TQ rating is for the Ford automatic. B) Ford won't support their own automatic behind an S/C'd motor in the GT350 but I believe you can put an after market automatic in no problem - might be a little costly is all. Also, there are some automatic GT's that have been S/C'd by custom builders and they seem to work just fine. I know that West Coast Customs (everyone remember Amy?) built one for one of the B-J auctions within the last year and it was a charity car. It's on their web site. So it can be done, just not warranted by FoMoCo. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SexyStang Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I voted yes because then I would be able to drive Secondo's GT500.... :happy feet: :burnout: Also I wouldn't upgrade my GT 5.0 automatic for a stick, it already rips very nicely on the drag strip.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secondo Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 It isn't available with an automatic for the same reason the Boss isn't; the auto would blow up on a track day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 It isn't available with an automatic for the same reason the Boss isn't; the auto would blow up on a track day. But it would be such a blast until that happens........... :happy feet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shel-b001 Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I don`t believe Ford has an automatic that they could warranty & stand up to the HP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted September 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I don`t believe Ford has an automatic that they could warranty & stand up to the HP. Thats why I said "HIGH PERFORMANCE" Transmission...........doesn't have to be a FORD Transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgt1864 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Evolution Performance, Inc. sells the parts to put a GM turbo 400 in gt500 or gt. I seen one at there place and I think it has 700 plus hp. Great for drag racing but I don't know how it would work on a road course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheppd01 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Maybe if it was a dual clutch paddle shifted ferrari automatiic tramsmission. +1 Or something similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedrx Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I would buy one but I would want it from Ford/SVT with warranty, not just available from SA. I think SVT could find many suitable autos to handle the HP, doesn't have to be sourced in-house - see Tremec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Dennis Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 Since a high HP car such as a modified GT500 is better suited to drag racing, and everyone I know who drags says automatics shift faster, I would thing this would be a viable option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 So your saying that the Mustangs have two different Transmission Tunnels, one for Manuals and one for Automatics? I don't think Ford would change the Structure of the Mustang Body just for the transmission. The V6, GT and Shelby GT 500 should have the same Body, inside & out, top to bottom, front to back, with the defferences in the Bodies being just cosmetics. I have switched from 4 Speeds to Automatics and Automatics to 4 Speeds in older Stangs with no problems and I think the process would be the same in the New Cars, Labor wiise. The most time being spent on the new Cars would be Computer Codeing for the Automatic. No he's saying that in order to beef up an auto tranny enough to handle the torque and power you will not fit it in the tunnel. The only automatic Ford makes that would handle it is the F5R110 (and it will not fit) and I have doubts that it would handle it. I know neither one of mine in either of my trucks handles it very well with the 1100+ ft. lbs that the trucks are making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twobjshelbys Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 No he's saying that in order to beef up an auto tranny enough to handle the torque and power you will not fit it in the tunnel. The only automatic Ford makes that would handle it is the F5R110 (and it will not fit) and I have doubts that it would handle it. I know neither one of mine in either of my trucks handles it very well with the 1100+ ft. lbs that the trucks are making. Yes that is what I meant. Of course there is some transmission engine combination that will fit, but I would suspect finding an automatic beefy/stout enough to handle the HP (with margin for upgrades) would be physically larger. Plus, I would also be unsure that any automatic Ford uses would just bolt up to the 5.4 or 5.8 engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Johnston Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Ford could engineer their own or get a high performance auto from some manufacturer. We have GM, Bentley and many others with cars exceeding 550 HP and with high toque with auto trannys. It is not an impossible option for any size engine Ford makes. Heck look at the trannys developed for the Super Duty trucks. It depends on demand. And besides, since the Ford trans are built to spec elsewhere, Ford can do some shopping. And then maybe the Ford cars will come with paddle shifters and IRS at a competitive price. I fantasize. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IngotSilverSnake Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Ford could certainly build an AT that would stand up to any HP/Torque levels (if they wanted to). I would buy one only if it were a factory option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedrx Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 I am expecting factory option for 2015 SVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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