Is the GT500 a scam?

[supe]

After attending the New York Auto show I got a BAD FEELING. The new Hertz Mustang has Carroll Shelby all over it. Carroll signed the dash and a Shelby registry plaque was affix to the dash. A lot of “history in the making” kind of thing. The GT500 was lacking luster and with no excitement. Just the “Shelby” tag on the rear. Also the Ford sales rep said “every dealer will get 2 or 3 cars” and “just wait a little; look at the GT, its now selling for less than sticker”. “The GT500 is not a real Shelby built/designed car; it’s just a high horse power Mustang”. However Dodge is inviting every owner of the RT to join them at race track and run there cars. Each car gets entered into a registry. I know it’s a four door. My feeling is the GT500 will become a common car not the rebirth we are all hoping for.

[BoneDoc]

After attending the New York Auto show I got a BAD FEELING. The new Hertz Mustang has Carroll Shelby all over it. Carroll signed the dash and a Shelby registry plaque was affix to the dash. A lot of “history in the making” kind of thing. The GT500 was lacking luster and with no excitement. Just the “Shelby” tag on the rear. Also the Ford sales rep said “every dealer will get 2 or 3 cars” and “just wait a little; look at the GT, its now selling for less than sticker”. “The GT500 is not a real Shelby built/designed car; it’s just a high horse power Mustang”. However Dodge is inviting every owner of the RT to join them at race track and run there cars. Each car gets entered into a registry. I know it’s a four door. My feeling is the GT500 will become a common car not the rebirth we are all hoping for.

 

 

Respectfully disagree.

 

The original shelby's were not "designed and built" by Carroll Shelby, either... one could argue that they were "just high horse power mustangs" with a few cosmedic modifications. How do you know to what extent Carroll Shelby's ideas entered into the production of this car?

 

many who have seen the car in person (including myself) would NOT characterize the experience as "lackluster with no excitement".

 

In any event, the new shelby is the fastest production mustang ever built... and they will not be mass produced. In addition, with Carroll Shelby advancing in age, and with his multiple medical problems, there may not be too many more Shelby's out there with his personal "blessing"... sounds like the ingredients of a future classic american muscle car to me.

 

If you're not convinced, don't buy one...

as for me, I plan to drive and enjoy this classic american muscle car for years to come.

[kb67]

Hi,

 

I really like the car it looks nice and I like the performance it will offer. I wish it had the letters in the center of the trunk and the orginal hood those to me where nods to shelby's styling past. But I won't worry about collectors wanting to pay big money for my GT500 this is the mustang I had always hoped to get. Its for me not a collection, I want to have a kick a** mustang I can drive. Carroll Shelby build cars to have fun in hopefully hes had enough input into this car to make it a fitting tribute to the shelby mustangs.

 

The Hertz mustang is a Shelby involved project so the attention that Carroll Shelby is giving it is based on Shelby Americans' vested interest in seeing it succeed along side the GT500 thats coming down the pipe too. I think Shelby is trying to setup a foundation for his company's continued success.

[ford4v429]

My feeling is the GT500 will become a common car not the rebirth we are all hoping for.

 

 

if 475 hp cars become the norm, I guess these might be no big deal...If I had an extra 40k lying around,I'd jump at the chance to get one. I dont, so I'll save up for a blower for my 06 gt instead it wont go over 400 hp safely, but the extra torque would be great.

 

there seems to be a few misconceptions about HP these days too- seems theres a few 300 hp v6's around, same asthe lowly mustang, but without the bottom end torque, the feeling just aint there. The one 'trait' I'd love to see become common would be getting 450 ft/lb at low rpm, even if engines way undersquare and severely rev limited- big torque is mor everyday fum...

[6707Shelby]

Respectfully disagree.

 

The original shelby's were not "designed and built" by Carroll Shelby, either... one could argue that they were "just high horse power mustangs" with a few cosmedic modifications. How do you know to what extent Carroll Shelby's ideas entered into the production of this car?

 

 

 

1965: Ford Hires Carroll Shelby to design build a Mustang to compete with the Corvettes in SCCA B/production racing. The spinoff of this venture was the Shelby Mustangs which anyone could buy from their Ford dealers. A full race version gt350r or the street version gt350. From 1965 thru 1967 Ford shipped cars to Shelby American to be transformed into these classics. Ford looking for more consistency and higher sales numbers decided to move that conversion to Detroit. At this point Shelby's involvement diminished.

 

 

 

The GT500 is not a real Shelby built/designed car; it’s just a high horse power Mustang”.

 

 

The GT500 and the GT-H perhaps are not Shelby designed cars but they are a collaboration of Shelby and Ford and this is important. Shelby has had many ventures with other entities but this one with Ford is the one that really matters and will be significant in 20-25 years.

With the announcement at the NY Auto Show , the GT-H seems more important , maybe because its the most recent announcement , or perhaps because these cars will be modified by Shelby Automobiles in Las Vegas.

I guess it is a matter of perspective.

 

I wonder which car will be more collectible? If the Hertz version remain at 500 copies a year, they will definitely be something to obtain and hold on to.

[kb67]

Considering the 2007 - 2008 Shelby mustangs will be close to or pass the entire 5 year run of orginal Shelbys whats collectible is really up to the person who wants it. I want a 67 shelby I love the way they look I also would love to own a 66 hertz with a 4 speed and a paxton. To me those cars are collectible because they are different from some of the other stuff that was out there. Plus they kick a** :D

 

 

6707 Shelby is right if not for what Carroll Shelby did with the SCCA cars Ford couldn't have went racing

and been competitive he created the Shelby mustang with a purpose in mind to be a preformance car. Under his guidance they whipped up on Ferrari so bad they had races canceled so as not to lose the world title to the cobras. He lead the the Le Man effort that won it for Ford. That sounds like someone who I'd listen to if I was Ford. But you never know :D

[old guy]

Nope... can't agree that it's a scam. I ain't gonna buy an investment. I'm buying a CAR!

 

 

If Ford was touting this car as an investment, then I might agree that it could be a scam. It isn't Ford, it's the people buying the car that are touting it as such. Let's get it right. Whether the GT500 ever raises to the glory of the old Shelby remains to be seen. What the car is is a 475+ hp ground thumper. If that's what you want, that's what you'll get.

 

It's hard to say what, if anything, Ford may do to organize events or start a registry. After all, the car isn't even being produced yet.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you want a ground thumper, get the Shelby. Don't worry about owning a future classic. If you want to drive it, terriffic! If you want an investment, buy real estate and hang a photo of the Shelby in your office and let those of us who want to drive them have them. But please don't buy the car if you are just going to let it sit and oogle at it with your buddies in the garage, I know too many people like that. I don't know of many people who bought an original Shelby as an "investment." In fact, the reason they are worth so much today is because there weren't many sold, not because there weren't many built. And the ones that were sold were driven into the ground. That's why they're worth money today. Want to tank future value? Get a few thousand people buying these things because they want an "investment" or a "trophy" for their garage.

 

If the turns into a "scam" it's going to be us, not Ford, that makes it so.

 

I would personally love it if I never saw another posting talking about future value or whether "Ford" is making the car into something it isn't.

[DVS2XS]

Some here, and on other sites, are getting way ahead of themselves. ANY idea on the future value of these cars is pure speculation. They COULD be as cherished as the original GT350's and GT500's, OR they could wind up as valued as the Shelby/Dodge GLH compacts of a few decades ago.

 

If you want the highest output (power, torque, handling) production Mustang ever built (with large amounts of room for more power), then get one of these cars. The price compared to the current Saleen and Roush alternatives is reasonable, and nowhere as over-priced as some would make it seem, and about the same as the mid and late 1960's Shelby Mustangs in relative money.

 

If you want a collector car built by Mr. Shelby with known value for a future investment, then you have other options.

 

**Placing soapbox on ground and stepping up on it**

My opinion (for what it is worth) - I for one am tired of all the whining. If you have the desire, money, and opportunity to purchase one, by all means do so. If not, then buy something else that fills your needs and/or wants, but quit whining on a public forum that is centered around these cars. You are taking up bandwidth and server memory that can be put to better use.

 

I consider myself very fortunate to have a chance to own (in the near future) one of these new cars, that by all designs should be better than the original KR cars. And I applaud Ford for having the intestinal fortitude to build such a car at this time for us enthusiasts. With the current situation of US automakers, it could be a sign of great things to come, OR the last of a breed for quite some time...either way is pure speculation.

 

And finally, I do NOT expect this car to be a "world beater" or "super car", it is a Mustang, and a great piece of American automotive muscle, not perfect, but still a great car.

 

Rant over.

**stepping down off my soapbox and awaiting the bashing**

[Aussie XAXB]

If you want to buy a new Shelby for an investment I speculate that the supercharged V-6 Mustangs being built by Shelby American are going to be collectable, and I wouldn't mind having one of those cars for the fun as well.

 

Yes, check your history, Carrol Shelby developed and produced the original Shelby Mustangs at his shop.

 

I saw a documentary on the developement of the new Cobra Concept (retro to the 60's AC Cobra) and that did jade me as to how much involvement Mr. Shelby had in the new Shelby Mustang. In the documentary he would periodically come into the room where they were designing the clay model and say "Wow, that's really nice", and then leave to go golfing or whatever he would do. I don't recall every seeing him say "That should be more like this, you need to do this here, and I would recommend that you..." Because of this I wonder how much input he actually had on the new Shelby Mustang.

 

I do agree, the new Shelby Mustang is one heck of a car and I want one.

 

 

Steve

[old guy]

DVS2XS and Aussie,

 

I totally agree with everything you said. Yes, Shelby and his crew were much more involved in the remake of the original Shelby, and yes, today his shop (don't know how much Shelby himself) is much more involved in the Shelby American cars. But just to add fuel to the fire, I wouldn't expect him to personally be designing and building any cars anywhere. The Shelby name has a certain mistyque to it (sometimes -- does anyone really lust over a GLH??,) but really, does anyone think he's actually building or designing anything, even something coming out of Shelby America, anymore. I would guess that his name and some consulting with his engineers is about the extent of his involvement in anything he does anymore. And to be truthful, Shelby was working with a bunch of hot shot engineers even back in the 60's. I don't think anyone will ever know to what extent (other than the original idea of shoehorning large engines into little cars) he actually had in the engineering and design of any of his cars. Today, Shelby is a company, not an engineer or a gearhead. Remember, he earned his reputation as a driver, not a wrench spinner.

 

So, for me, to put this thing to rest and say it as clearly as possible...

 

I want to buy a 475+ HP, 475+ ft lb torque ground thumping MUSTANG that me and my kid can take to the track and spin the odometer 1/4 mile at a time; something I can have fun breaking the law with on the highway and something I can have fun with going to the grocery store. I wouldn't care if it were called the Ford Egg Beater!

 

OK DVS, now we can both sit back, have a beer and wait for the arrows to come flying! ;-)

 

Mark

[jkittrell]

Considering the 2007 - 2008 Shelby mustangs will be close to or pass the entire 5 year run of orginal Shelbys whats collectible is really up to the person who wants it.

 

I'm not sure if it was here ar another site and I don't remember the exact numbers but at one point there was a post that putting the previous run at ~3200 TOTAL. Considering that we're talking about 7500+ the first year alone, I just don't see the hype. Someone else said these cars wouldn't be mass produced. Waht # constitutes mass production?? I mean, I know they aren't going to make as many of these as they do anything else but 15K+ over 2 years is a lot of cars to me. Now, 500 a year is a totally different ballgame. :burnout:

[DVS2XS]

This morning CNN had a short story from the NY Auto Show and mentioned the GT500. They reported that Ford had recieved orders for 50,000 cars, with only 7500 being built this year. The very first one was auctioned for AMAZING money, and I bet it will go immediately into a collection. The hype is due to the huge interest in a neat car with a name that has not been seen in production for almost 40 years. And lots of "Boomers" being able to afford this car when they couldn't afford the originals when new.

 

Hype is generally used to stimulate interest in a product. In the case of this car, the interest is already there. So is it hype, or something else?

 

I do not truely understand the hype, or the reason I am excited about this car as I was as a kid with my first Mustang. But I am looking forward to more information over the next few months and the delivery day.

 

I also would bet that if GM decides to build the Camaro, the hype is even greater than what we are seeing here - especially a LS7 Z28.

 

As for the original Shelby Mustang production - many understand the first ones were modified in the hanger in California, and the later ones were not. Holman-Moody had a big part in building the GT-40's, and it didn't seem to slow the interest in the new Ford GT. SAAC has already said they are going to accept the new GT500's in the registry - a good move for their growth. As to whether or not these will be as desireable 40 years later...who knows. But I want one.

 

-Wayne

[old guy]

Wow, 50,000 cars. Did they say from where? That's a lot of cars considering they still don't have a MSRP. I hope they're not from dealers who are going to order them up with the colors and options they think they can sell.

 

This morning CNN had a short story from the NY Auto Show and mentioned the GT500. They reported that Ford had recieved orders for 50,000 cars, with only 7500 being built this year. The very first one was auctioned for AMAZING money, and I bet it will go immediately into a collection. The hype is due to the huge interest in a neat car with a name that has not been seen in production for almost 40 years. And lots of "Boomers" being able to afford this car when they couldn't afford the originals when new.

 

Hype is generally used to stimulate interest in a product. In the case of this car, the interest is already there. So is it hype, or something else?

 

I do not truely understand the hype, or the reason I am excited about this car as I was as a kid with my first Mustang. But I am looking forward to more information over the next few months and the delivery day.

 

I also would bet that if GM decides to build the Camaro, the hype is even greater than what we are seeing here - especially a LS7 Z28.

 

As for the original Shelby Mustang production - many understand the first ones were modified in the hanger in California, and the later ones were not. Holman-Moody had a big part in building the GT-40's, and it didn't seem to slow the interest in the new Ford GT. SAAC has already said they are going to accept the new GT500's in the registry - a good move for their growth. As to whether or not these will be as desireable 40 years later...who knows. But I want one.

 

-Wayne

 

[DVS2XS]

Mark/Old Man,

The CNN/HLN coverage was short and did not say anything othere than 50,000 orders for it and the actual wording was 7000 being built this year - not the 7500 I posted. It had the reporter standing next to a white GT500 with blue stripes - very nice looking compared to the standard Mustang. But it kind of reminded me of the '76 Mustang II Cobras - remember those? The article also covered a couple of other new releases.

 

If the 50,000 number is correct, I would bet that it is dealers betting they can fill orders. Options and colors would be placed later. Like many of the '01 Lightnings and '04 Cobras, many would be ordered in various colors and fully optioned.

 

The problem with this number is that there are not that many standard dealers that have plans to qualify to be dealers for the GT500. And actual orders and allotments are only recently being allowed/announced. I would SPECULATE that the number is based from initial dealer response in 2004.

 

This is a quote from the CNN website:

"I've worked with the SVT guys for several years now, and I know they have the guts, the talent and the passion to deliver the best performance Mustangs ever," Shelby said in a statement issued by Ford.

[BoneDoc]

1965: Ford Hires Carroll Shelby to design build a Mustang to compete with the Corvettes in SCCA B/production racing. The spinoff of this venture was the Shelby Mustangs which anyone could buy from their Ford dealers. A full race version gt350r or the street version gt350. From 1965 thru 1967 Ford shipped cars to Shelby American to be transformed into these classics. Ford looking for more consistency and higher sales numbers decided to move that conversion to Detroit. At this point Shelby's involvement diminished.

 

 

original Shelby GT500 was a modification of existing an mustang line. not designed and built by Shelby. The mods were performed in an airplane hanger. I suppose you could say that the modifications were designed by shelby? not sure there is anyone who would dispute that? to say that Shelby designed and built the GT 500 original version from the ground up would simply not be true.

 

I wonder which car will be more collectible? If the Hertz version remain at 500 copies a year, they will definitely be something to obtain and hold on to.

 

No doubt that the 350-H will be more collectible due to the rarity. both are exciting cars. I don't think that makes the GT500 a scam.

[pdf390]

Respectfully disagree.

 

The original shelby's were not "designed and built" by Carroll Shelby, either... one could argue that they were "just high horse power mustangs" with a few cosmedic modifications. How do you know to what extent Carroll Shelby's ideas entered into the production of this car?

 

many who have seen the car in person (including myself) would NOT characterize the experience as "lackluster with no excitement".

 

In any event, the new shelby is the fastest production mustang ever built... and they will not be mass produced. In addition, with Carroll Shelby advancing in age, and with his multiple medical problems, there may not be too many more Shelby's out there with his personal "blessing"... sounds like the ingredients of a future classic american muscle car to me.

 

If you're not convinced, don't buy one...

as for me, I plan to drive and enjoy this classic american muscle car for years to come.

 

 

Istill think the GT-500 will be everthing it was cracked up to be. I have seen both the coupe and droptop and i think they just say" power"!! If FORD is making any mistake i think it is draging the production and release of the Shelby out too long. Peoiple are starting to get upset with the long wait. Then you hear talk of the California Special and Hertz 350. Ford should have waited until the GT-500 was out on the street and then push the others. Seems time is better spent on one thing being done right and not two or three.

[gt5001]

The original shelby's were not "designed and built" by Carroll Shelby, either... one could argue that they were "just high horse power mustangs" with a few cosmedic modifications.

 

That's revisionist history. The '65 & '66 Mustangs went to Shelby and extensive mods were done. Shelby's major contribution to the GT500, which will be a great car, was the sell Ford his name & some consulting time. Those cars will be production Mustangs.

[BoneDoc]

The original shelby's were not "designed and built" by Carroll Shelby, either... one could argue that they were "just high horse power mustangs" with a few cosmedic modifications.

 

That's revisionist history. The '65 & '66 Mustangs went to Shelby and extensive mods were done. Shelby's major contribution to the GT500, which will be a great car, was the sell Ford his name & some consulting time. Those cars will be production Mustangs.

 

 

you're just repeating what i have already said....

 

they were mustangs with mods then...

 

they are mustangs with mods now.

 

If that's revisionist history, you are revising it with me.

[07 Shelby Cobra]

This morning CNN had a short story from the NY Auto Show and mentioned the GT500. They reported that Ford had recieved orders for 50,000 cars, with only 7500 being built this year.

-Wayne

 

 

 

So......, I wonder if the above quote is a prediction of what I wrote a few weeks back? (Topic Title: So you think you have an order??? GT500 Gathering Place) See below.....

 

 

I think what has to be remembered is that, a DORA is Not a Guarantee in any way that You'll be getting a Shelby.

Now with that out of the way, if you are high on Your Dealer's List and you have a DORA you'll most likely get one.

Right now, as has been previously stated on this Site, any Ford Dealer in the US could DORA 10, 100 or 1000 Shelby's. The order system will allow it. If there are are indeed Dealers doing this, there could be a LOT of disappointed people, because, as we all know Allocation is going to be Very Low per Dealer.

I recently returned from a family vacation in Florida where I visited two Ford Dealers. One was an SVT, Roush Dealer. Both of those Dealers had Not DORA'ed yet. Yes, they had a Waiting List, however no Dora'ing. The SVT Sales Manager explained to me what I described above. She was very adament that they would not DORA until Ford announced their Allotment numbers. This wasn't a Salesperson that I was talking to and she was very aware of the 'orders' being placed and the DORA's issued. Oh, and by the way, their Customer's at the Top of the List are paying 10k over MSRP.

It would be Very interesting to know how many Dora's have actually been Issued?

 

CNN reporting 50,000 Shelby GT500 Orders?!! That has to represent the number of DORAs Received. Lets hope not. If this is true, as I stated above, there are going to be a LOT of disappointed people who think that they are now guaranteed to get a Shelby but won't.

[lawdude]

This morning CNN had a short story from the NY Auto Show and mentioned the GT500. They reported that Ford had recieved orders for 50,000 cars, with only 7500 being built this year.

 

You ever heard of PUFFERY?

[07 Shelby Cobra]

You ever heard of PUFFERY?

 

 

Puffery? isn't that a Brokeback Mountainism? No seriously, I agree it probably is what it is. More than likely the 50,000 is a rough estimate that Ford has acquired from standing Dealer Lists rather than Doras. Who knows? There's an SVT Dealer here in Ontario with 67 persons' on it's List.

[mrsuds]

I honestly hope that 50K is a fictional figure that some dealer floated out there to justify the markups. I'm pretty much reserved to the fact that my car is in 2008 but what's 1 year when you see amatuer video of the GT500 starting up in a gas station?

[6707Shelby]

Wow, 50,000 cars. Did they say from where? That's a lot of cars considering they still don't have a MSRP. I hope they're not from dealers who are going to order them up with the colors and options they think they can sell.

 

 

This sounds unbelievable. Are there not only 3900 dealers?

 

Are there only 900 SVT dealers, including Focus?

 

 

So every dealer has placed orders for 12+ cars?

 

Non SVT dealers are guaranteed one, so thats around 3000 dealers placing their one order and the balance of SVT dealers (900) ordered 47000 cars? Thats about 50 cars per SvT dealer.

 

Something is wrong. imho

[VNMOUS1]

This sounds unbelievable. Are there not only 3900 dealers?

 

Are there only 900 SVT dealers, including Focus?

So every dealer has placed orders for 12+ cars?

 

Non SVT dealers are guaranteed one, so thats around 3000 dealers placing their one order and the balance of SVT dealers (900) ordered 47000 cars? Thats about 50 cars per SvT dealer.

 

Something is wrong. imho

 

 

 

The CNN piece used the 50,000 figure that was supplied to them by Ford and was based upon the (non-scientific and non-factual, purely speculative) number of people that both the major and minor dealers had on the infamous "list". They took that number, weighted it up against the total number of dealers and came up with a "more or less" figure that sounds good. No fact, just some raw data. Keep in mind that 75% of the people on the lists have no intention of ever buying the car. Take the 25% that represents real buyers or those that would actually have the desire and money to do so, and you've got about 12,500 "demand" against 7,500 "supply". This still makes for a robust market place.

 

My dealer showed me his list over a year ago and at that time it was 15 people deep. His comment was that MAYBE 4-5 people would actually be BUYERS once the production car is done and the pricing is released. I'd say if you just look at the number of people on this and other boards that are screaming about the car being overweight, overpriced, over-hyped and over-ADM'd (plus those that INSIST they'll NEVER buy a car for more than "XYZ Plan") it really IS about 25% that seem to really have written deals and the commitment to buy the car at this point.

 

As of Friday, I was told (speculation) that it was still the final EPA work and resulting Gas Guzzler tax that was keeping us from having firm pricing. It's not as though at this juncture that someone swaps out a cigarette lighter and says "Hey, that looks better! Let's use it and up the price a couple of bucks". The pricing is done, set, firm. It's the "kick in the gas" that we're waiting for! We're supposed to have an announcement by mid-May, at which time allotments will be announced based upon the old criteria. I was told the only thing that changed was that the "share of nation" piece (the final step in the process) was "sort of replaced by all the dealers being able to participate". Makes sense to me.

 

bj

[DVS2XS]

I posted what was reported on CNN/HLN. I have questions about the 50,000 number as well - and feel that it is not an accurate account even with the possibility of some dealers over issuing DORAS.

 

 

6707SHELBY - You need to add in the Presidential Award winning dealerships getting an additional allotment, and the Ford, Penske, etc. workers that will be getting cars off the top, before the allotments - I haven't seen numbers for these yet - and don't expect them for a long time.

 

Also, 5 of 7 dealerships I have spoken with in the last week, have been told that the allotments are being issued on a calendar year basis - not a model year basis. This would mean three sets of allotments for a two year production run ( 2006, 2007, and 2008). The final word on allotments should be out this week - so they are being told...we'll see..

 

One more thing, a friend in Ford's Powertrain Development mentioned that the units built may exceed 7500 per model year by a large number - if demand is high. They are arranging for as many of the TR6060 trans as they can get for the 2007 year production.

 

After watching the build up leading to the release of the last mustang Cobras and the 2001 Lightnings, I would guess that the interest in these cars may decline rapidly in late 2007.

 

All of this adds up to a fairly large production run (yes, PRODUCTION RUN) of a special model that is not nearly as collectable as the original SHELBY cars were. Not a SCAM, but not like the KR cars either. But then again, there were GT350's still on dealers floors as late as a year after they were delivered due to lack of interest. Today those same cars are very sought after.

[gt5001]

Bonedoc wrote: you're just repeating what i have already said....

 

they were mustangs with mods then...

 

they are mustangs with mods now.

 

If that's revisionist history, you are revising it with me.

 

Do you see a difference in the GT500 & a Saleen Mustang? The early Shelbys were produced in much the same way as Saleens today. I think there is considerable difference in Saleens and production Mustangs.

[Five Oh B]

N/A

[DVS2XS]

A-M-E-N!!!

[Joe G]

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QUOTE(Five Oh B @ Apr 17 2006, 08:44 AM) 8307[/snapback]

The 2007 Shelby GT500 is really just the natural evolution of the 2003-4 SVT Cobra Mustang. If we left the Shelby name off of it, it would still be an awesome Mustang at 485hp, but perhaps there would be fewer speculative buyers for it.

 

If you are buying this car only because the word "Shelby" is stamped on it, then I feel bad for you as you're missing the point. However, if you are buying it because you ache for 485hp in a "relatively" affordable musclecar, then bravo!

Bravo, bravo! Give this man a cigar!!! :bowdown: You pointed out the pink elephant in the room that everyone's been ignoring... :elefant:

 

If Ford had saved a few dollars and left off just six letters ( S H E L B Y ), most of us would have still been estatic, loved the car, wanted the car (you see where I'm going with this... ) BUT, we would have weeded out the dumb sses who see this as the reincarnation of their 40 year old dream to finally make a boat load of cash by buying and re-selling Shelby Mustangs.

 

I hope those people who are buying this car for $75-80,000 today, putting it in mothballs in a sealed garage under Cheyenne mountain and hoping to retire with millions in 20 years get exactly what they deserve - a great car that's been underused that's worth about $75-80,000 (in 2026 money!!).

 

Buy it, love it, baby it, admire it... but most of all, DRIVE IT and ENJOY IT!!

 

Ok, I'm done. Whew... feels good to get that out of the system!

[ColdwaterHotrod]

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QUOTE(Five Oh B @ Apr 17 2006, 09:44 AM) 8307[/snapback]

If you are buying this car only because the word "Shelby" is stamped on it, then I feel bad for you as you're missing the point. However, if you are buying it because you ache for 485hp in a "relatively" affordable musclecar, then bravo!

 

I disagree with this statement Five Oh.... And this is why.....

 

I love HorsePower just as much as most gearheads on this site & I have always wanted a Shelby in my stable.

 

Since I can't afford a poorly restored Shelby that won't break me to restore it or to buy a fully restored Shelby. In either case, prices will still range from 60k to 250k for 1967, 68, 69, or 1970 Shelby's.

 

For 2007 this modern day Shelby GT500 is the next BEST thing that I can get my hands on that fits both needs at a reasonable & affordable price of (40-45k) & fits my need for Speed & it just happens to be a car named after a Ford Performance Legend named Carroll Shelby.