13 GT500 vs ZL1: Durability

[bigsnake]

Carrol Shelby will always be "The Man".

 

Be sure and check out the last statement in the video.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzMr9WQc_LM&feature=related

[txcobra]

Carroll is the man!

[Freak]

I'm confused. In what way does this have anything to do with the durability of the ZL1? There is exactly zero mention of the ZL1 in the video. In fact, there isn't much mention of the durability of the GT500, other than they were doing testing at a tough track.

[patrickshelby]

I'm confused. In what way does this have anything to do with the durability of the ZL1? There is exactly zero mention of the ZL1 in the video. In fact, there isn't much mention of the durability of the GT500, other than they were doing testing at a tough track.

 

I don't get it either but great video!

[Boss Hoss 540]

Well the last statement I have heard before and for the money the 2013 GT500 $ for $ on MSRP (not ADM) it is one of the bst values out there for a non track car. It may be me but the Shelby has never competed with the Z06 or ZR1 but it costs less. The Mustang 2013 can be bought for less than 20k around here and that is where the GT500 starts from vs the Vette a dedicated sports car.

 

Shelby loved being paraded around until the very end! I know he was not real involved in the day to day work but he looks like he had fun just being around..

[ilmor]

Speaking of durability and value, I wonder how long those fancy magnetorheological dampers will last and what it will cost owners to replace them, vs. how much they are really necessary.

[JeffInDFW]

As for the Magnetorheological Dampers......Running from memory here.....I know the Corvette debuted them in 2003, so they have been around for at least a decade now. Of course, the current design is several generations along. That first generation could not stand up to "track conditions", so they were NOT used on the Z06. However, Ferraris durability requirements are not as strict, so they DID use them on their super car (buying the systems from GM). Starting in 2009, it was able to pass the track durability testing, so it was standard on the ZR1.

 

I honestly did not know, so I just spent a little time "Googleing" around the Corvette forums to see how the Magnetic shocks were holding up, and what the cost of replacement is, when do they fail (milage), etc. From what little digging I just did, the word is GM claimed they were good for the life of the car. I found where one Corvette junk man specialist said the shocks were cheap from salvage yards "because there is no demand". I can't find where anyone has had to purchase a new one so I dont have the price new over the counter. I feel the Shelbys block will be the same way. The GT500s engine is SO overdesigned, and over built that there really isn't any reason to ever worry about a failure.

 

As for "Durability" of both the GT500 and ZL1......That is just another reason why I LOVE AMERICAN MUSCLE. I can already tell you the durability. You will break glove box doors. A trim piece will crack. A tail light will get a little water in it. Thats it. Other than that nickel and dime stuff, you will be able to beat the living hell out of both of these cars night and day for 200,000 miles and change nothing but the oil and filter. These cars are not Nissan GT-Rs or Ferraris where you have to do $12,000 "maintenance" every time you drive it to the store and back. Its the same reason I own and drive a Viper instead of a Ferrari (or GT-R). I like to drive my toys. I like to run them hard. American muscle cars are built to do that. I love that Jay Lenno says he loves Corvettes, Camaros, and Mustangs because "When you break something, you can fix it with a hammer". I LOVE Shelbys statement, "Others charge $100,000 more for this performance. To Hell with 'em"!

[devious_stang]

As for the Magnetorheological Dampers......Running from memory here.....I know the Corvette debuted them in 2003, so they have been around for at least a decade now. Of course, the current design is several generations along. That first generation could not stand up to "track conditions", so they were NOT used on the Z06. However, Ferraris durability requirements are not as strict, so they DID use them on their super car (buying the systems from GM). Starting in 2009, it was able to pass the track durability testing, so it was standard on the ZR1.

 

I honestly did not know, so I just spent a little time "Googleing" around the Corvette forums to see how the Magnetic shocks were holding up, and what the cost of replacement is, when do they fail (milage), etc. From what little digging I just did, the word is GM claimed they were good for the life of the car. I found where one Corvette junk man specialist said the shocks were cheap from salvage yards "because there is no demand". I can't find where anyone has had to purchase a new one so I dont have the price new over the counter. I feel the Shelbys block will be the same way. The GT500s engine is SO overdesigned, and over built that there really isn't any reason to ever worry about a failure.

 

As for "Durability" of both the GT500 and ZL1......That is just another reason why I LOVE AMERICAN MUSCLE. I can already tell you the durability. You will break glove box doors. A trim piece will crack. A tail light will get a little water in it. Thats it. Other than that nickel and dime stuff, you will be able to beat the living hell out of both of these cars night and day for 200,000 miles and change nothing but the oil and filter. These cars are not Nissan GT-Rs or Ferraris where you have to do $12,000 "maintenance" every time you drive it to the store and back. Its the same reason I own and drive a Viper instead of a Ferrari (or GT-R). I like to drive my toys. I like to run them hard. American muscle cars are built to do that. I love that Jay Lenno says he loves Corvettes, Camaros, and Mustangs because "When you break something, you can fix it with a hammer". I LOVE Shelbys statement, "Others charge $100,000 more for this performance. To Hell with 'em"!

 

 

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