svt13 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I think if they go after people who are real young they may sell a lot of v6s and used gt's maybe even some new ones. But as far as a shelby or boss type kind of car. No young person can afford that unless they get money from their parents. The generation ford is after is basically just out of college. The economy sucks and the job market sucks. These people can't make the kind of money to throw 65k at a top of the line mustang let alone ANY car. You have to target the audience who likes your car and can AFFORD to get one. If all the baby boomers are nostalgic about shelbys and can now afford one then make it for them so they will buy it. But again Ford is then counting on the overseas market to pick up the slack. This may prove to be a bad move on their part and cause the downfall of mustangs. They have to tread VERY cautiously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YZD263 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I think if they go after people who are real young they may sell a lot of v6s and used gt's maybe even some new ones. But as far as a shelby or boss type kind of car. No young person can afford that unless they get money from their parents. The generation ford is after is basically just out of college. The economy sucks and the job market sucks. These people can't make the kind of money to throw 65k at a top of the line mustang let alone ANY car. You have to target the audience who likes your car and can AFFORD to get one. If all the baby boomers are nostalgic about shelbys and can now afford one then make it for them so they will buy it. But again Ford is then counting on the overseas market to pick up the slack. This may prove to be a bad move on their part and cause the downfall of mustangs. They have to tread VERY cautiously. +1. Aiming at younger buyers may indeed result in more overall sales, but less profit per car as they, for the most part, won't be able to afford the higher end versions of the Mustang. It's a bit strange that Ford would already disregard boomers as a worthy customer group. As far as I know, boomers still have several years of driving left before they stop buying cars, and have disposable income on top of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 +1. Aiming at younger buyers may indeed result in more overall sales, but less profit per car as they, for the most part, won't be able to afford the higher end versions of the Mustang. It's a bit strange that Ford would already disregard boomers as a worthy customer group. As far as I know, boomers still have several years of driving left before they stop buying cars, and have disposable income on top of that. It is strange. Hence my speculation that they think Europe will make up for the baby boomers. I mean I love the mustang because of the value you get for the car. But BMW, Audi, Infiniti, Nissan, and Mercedes are quickly catching up to Fords lead. At the rate the top line mustangs are increasing they are getting real close to threshold of where a buyer may prefer a car like a GTR with much more performance and overall quality than a mustang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Mojavi Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Damn good point SVT13...... I can appreciate the Shelby 1000 for the Beast she is, but I can't buy one. I think Shelby has it right with cars like the gt350..Shelby GTs and the Terlingua (God I'd like to own a Terlingua). Mr. Shelby took a secretaries daily driver and turned it into a legend by giving us a respectible Track Car off the showroom at an acceptable price. I would encourage Shelby to continue with cars like the Terlinguas, and I mean real performers, not just a 5.0 with Shelby badgeing. Keep it under forty grand and damn I'll buy another one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svt13 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Damn good point SVT13...... I can appreciate the Shelby 1000 for the Beast she is, but I can't buy one. I think Shelby has it right with cars like the gt350..Shelby GTs and the Terlingua (God I'd like to own a Terlingua). Mr. Shelby took a secretaries daily driver and turned it into a legend by giving us a respectible Track Car off the showroom at an acceptable price. I would encourage Shelby to continue with cars like the Terlinguas, and I mean real performers, not just a 5.0 with Shelby badgeing. Keep it under forty grand and damn I'll buy another one! Well Mr.Shelby passing is like Steve Jobs passing. We just have to wait and see if the companies can work without its great leaders. Ideally what I would like ford to do with the shelby in 2014, which would immediately make me sell my 13 when it comes, as follows: Keep supercharger and quad exhaust. Upgrade interior, NO CHEAP PLASTIC. Padded surfaces maybe a little carbon fiber or suede etc Add more suede to the recaros. Add more carbon fiber pieces to the exterior like the zr1 has rockers, hood vent, splitter, diffuser, mirror covers, spoiler, hood, pillars (or at least make this an option like with the z06). Now this won't happen till around 2020 because Ford and Dow chemical are currently working on a cheap way to mass produce carbon fiber. Make it lighter by at least 200 pounds Add all the luxury stuff every other performance car in the world has (key less entry, push start ignition, heated side mirrors, torque vectoring or some form of PTM like on the camaro and corvettes, etc) Keep glass roof IRS and blistens like the ones on the GTR that have 3 modes and adjusts constantly within those modes (those are the blisten damptronics while the 13s are blisten ride control I believe its called), electronically adjustable ride height. Keep it at 200 mph Ti-VCT (I love the ford gt but still technology is an awesome thing I still don't know why the shelby is the only mustang without Ti-VCT) Something that changes constantly during driving is ALWAYS better than something that just stays fixed. Forgot to mention ACTUALLY PUT TRUE FORGED RODS. LIke manley If the 2014 shelby had all of these and they were able to sell it for around say 75k. I'd buy it in a heart beat and it would be literally the best bargain of the century. But since Ford definitely wouldn't do all of this. An aftermarket company like SAI should really look into it, instead of just bolting on a bunch of aftermarket suspension parts and a huge supercharger that makes the car not handle nearly as well as it did stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard m.switzer Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Here's a little more information -- along the lines of the Motor Trend article -- released by Edmunds "Inside Line" today: http://blogs.insidel...rd-mustang.html Here's one I like ,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard m.switzer Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Here's one I like ,, Here's another picture ,but of the front ,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard m.switzer Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Here's another picture ,but of the front ,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Mojavi Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 The next-gen Mustang is simply a mystery, were all scared that Fords going to blow it again. I can only hope they put their best and brightest on the project and when we see the results, we will see a Mustang :shades: seems that it's out of our hands. However, as it applies to future-gen Shelbys... I like to believe they hear us, and as a result, the shelby community may have a hand in aspects of the shelbys to come. I would disagree with some who feel Shelby should add layers of luxury to the shelby lines. Mr. shelby didnt desighn cars to finesse around the competition, he built rabid pit bulls that ate the competition and crapped them out in the winners circle! Shelbys have always had grit, if the cars were beautifull... it was because form followed function. For the future-gen of Shelbys, you can build the Super Snakes the KR and the 1000's but I would hope they look at the Mustang GT and the V6's to see what kind of magic they can conjure up. Perhaps in the future they could save us time and money by putting the "GOOD" stuff on the car to begin with, like Fay watts rear suspension, lowering spring, coil overs, heavy duty anti sway bars etc. You know, all that stuff we put on after we get the car, I'd much rather have that, than alot of High Tech and gadgets Just MHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejrail Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 If thats truly the next generation, I'm never buying one. It doen't even look close to a Mustang, let alone an American car. With the 50th anniversary looming, is the how far, or low, the car has come? :barf: I learned to drive in my parents '67 coupe. I met and dated my wife in that car. Ford lost me after the 1970 body. I went Firebird and Chevelle until I saw my first 2005 Mustang. I had to wait until the 2007 model year to buy one and it turned out to be Shelby GT to boot. :happy feet: It took 40 years for Ford to come to their senses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I actually like the latest evolution of the Edmonds version. The new car has to evolve. Camaro sales are increasing due to the new 'transformer" look and the customers are saying there is not enough to differentiate between the old and new mustangs. Customers spend a lot of money on a new Mustang and want to be recognized as a new car not a car that looks like the past several years. This is a natural evolution. And change is inevitable. Yes I agree with forged rods and also forged pistons. Keep the cast crank. And for all that refuse to accept change I can only say............who moved my cheese? CS acknowledged and accepted constant change. As long as it is change for the better and not just change for the sake of change. I am sure Alan Mullaly will ensure change is for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denstang65 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I have to disagree, look at the fox bodies.That platform and basic look lasted from 1979-1993 and they were always selling.I never heard of anyone saying that the Mustang needs a change, especially a retro look that everyone loves.It took a movie to get people to want the new Camaro,but the Mustang is an American icon.So mabey the change your reffering to needs to be negative,because I am pretty sure that is where its heading to with the new Evo-UnAmerican look! I am sure you could ask anyone on this planet if they like the Mustang and you will get positive feedback.Please Ford,don't be stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank S Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I have to disagree, look at the fox bodies.That platform and basic look lasted from 1979-1993 and they were always selling.I never heard of anyone saying that the Mustang needs a change, especially a retro look that everyone loves.It took a movie to get people to want the new Camaro,but the Mustang is an American icon.So mabey the change your reffering to needs to be negative,because I am pretty sure that is where its heading to with the new Evo-UnAmerican look! I am sure you could ask anyone on this planet if they like the Mustang and you will get positive feedback.Please Ford,don't be stupid! It may be true the 1979-1993 Mustangs sold well, but the market - I mean target customer - has changed. With the tiny segment accounted for by Shelby enthusiasts excepted, not too many post-Boomers with excess spendable have any interest in heritage older than a couple of video-game generations. It's got to "pop" to get a foot in the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denstang65 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 It may be true the 1979-1993 Mustangs sold well, but the market - I mean target customer - has changed. With the tiny segment accounted for by Shelby enthusiasts excepted, not too many post-Boomers with excess spendable have any interest in heritage older than a couple of video-game generations. It's got to "pop" to get a foot in the door. I here you, but I still think the retro look has a big following from the new generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richstang Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 I just saw this artist's (Jon Sibal) rendition on Ford GT500.com. The design tweaks using current model details look much cleaner then everything else I've seen so far. (Personally I'd like to see the lower body line contour raised up to help give the appearance of more length) Hopefully this is closer to the next generation look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helix Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 Take the Ford symbol off of the front and stick it somewhere more discrete and this picture would look like a hell of a Mustang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted June 9, 2012 Report Share Posted June 9, 2012 One hell of an ass on that stang!!!!!!! Imagine what CS could do with that as a starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Hawkins Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 I just saw this artist's (Jon Sibal) rendition on Ford GT500.com. The design tweaks using current model details look much cleaner then everything else I've seen so far. (Personally I'd like to see the lower body line contour raised up to help give the appearance of more length) Hopefully this is closer to the next generation look. I like the Hips on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greaser Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 yes sir ill take two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 it looks like Ford learned a lesson from GM and did not limit the greenhouse of the vehicle. There is plenty of glass and spacing for the windshield and side windows. It does not give that crushed look of the Camaro or instill claustrophobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmor Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Still needs work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burning Blue Star IV Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I just saw this artist's (Jon Sibal) rendition on Ford GT500.com. That's the best rendering (guess) that I've seen so far. Sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Mojavi Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 Interesting...... has possibilities, I Like the Bad Ass blown out rear wheelwells and still retains the Mustang essence....... still needs work,but then, thats what we have Shelby for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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