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The closest thing to actual Racing that Shelby has been involved in lately has been NASCAR. Shelby sponsored a Race a few Years ago at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway the Year they introduced the Shelby GT 500 "427" Package.

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I'm in for ten dollars a month. That's $120.00 a year, right?

 

Just $9,999,880.00 to go for that first season.

 

 

If you get most of the stuff at Wal-Mart (Gas, Tires, Batteries, etc) you can cut that by 70%.............. :hysterical:

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The closest thing to actual Racing that Shelby has been involved in lately has been NASCAR. Shelby sponsored a Race a few Years ago at the Las Vegas Motor Speedway the Year they introduced the Shelby GT 500 "427" Package.

 

 

Ilmor was there!!! :)

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That's a fantastic idea! Someone from Shelby may chime in about this. It is a huge financial burden to sponsor teams, but partial sponsorship may be a good option.

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What about the Trans Am series that run Factory Cars like the BOSS 302 with very little mods. A Team for that sholdn't be that much................

 

Car with Mods ........................... $100K

Tires for the season .................. $200K

Gas for the season .................... $200K

6 Crew Members for season ..... $250K

Misc. for the Season ................. $250K

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What about the Trans Am series that run Factory Cars like the BOSS 302 with very little mods. A Team for that sholdn't be that much................

 

Car with Mods ........................... $100K

Tires for the season .................. $200K

Gas for the season .................... $200K

6 Crew Members for season ..... $250K

Misc. for the Season ................. $250K

 

 

Trans Am cars are full race chassis cars. The two professional series that run the factory Boss302 cars are SCCA World Challenge, or Grand-Am Continental Tire Series. You're a little low on the costs of running a car in either of these series. You can get weekend help that you pay travel for and save some there, but the other stuff would be higher. Tires and fuel are close, but hauler, etc will add a bunch. Entry fees are also pretty substantial. If you already have an established team that already owns all that stuff, then the above budget will get you full sponsorship for a year. But if you're building a team from scratch, then you're about half way there. Let alone if you wreck the car. Are you planning on paying drivers (or a driver), or have drivers that pay you to drive and set up the car for them? Depending on how you do it, you can run a team for $1mil a year if you have the existing team established. Obviously sponsorship can be at multiple levels of participation. There are some existing Continental GS teams that run for that, but the top guys spend quite a bit more.

 

In World Challenge GTS, you can use an x-Mustang Challenge FR500S for another year and run a season for less.

Or a new FR500-Boss302S is $84,995

The Grand-Am Spec FR500-BossR1 is $134,995

Speaking of the Mustang Challenge, real bummer that it is not still around. That would have been the perfect series to run a Shelby Branded car. Probably the most cost efficient professional series around that ran a Mustang. Would have been able to do a start off team for way under the $1mil mark. I was working with a local Ford dealer on putting together a team for last year. We were planning on running the entire season for under $500K with a used FR500S. We were planning on using existing shop space they have and they already had a F550 truck and 40ft trailer all set for the deal.

 

A buddy of mine rented a ride for the Rolex 24 last month. He wrecked the car (Porsche) during test days at the beginning of January. Car totalled, he had race rental insurance, his portion that he had to pay, was still $60K. His race budget is done for the next two years and he got 5 laps in the car. That was an expensive test day! Yea, racing is expensive!

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Trans Am cars are full race chassis cars. The two professional series that run the factory Boss302 cars are SCCA World Challenge, or Grand-Am Continental Tire Series. You're a little low on the costs of running a car in either of these series. You can get weekend help that you pay travel for and save some there, but the other stuff would be higher. Tires and fuel are close, but hauler, etc will add a bunch. Entry fees are also pretty substantial. If you already have an established team that already owns all that stuff, then the above budget will get you full sponsorship for a year. But if you're building a team from scratch, then you're about half way there. Let alone if you wreck the car. Are you planning on paying drivers (or a driver), or have drivers that pay you to drive and set up the car for them? Depending on how you do it, you can run a team for $1mil a year if you have the existing team established. Obviously sponsorship can be at multiple levels of participation. There are some existing Continental GS teams that run for that, but the top guys spend quite a bit more.

 

In World Challenge GTS, you can use an x-Mustang Challenge FR500S for another year and run a season for less.

Or a new FR500-Boss302S is $84,995

The Grand-Am Spec FR500-BossR1 is $134,995

Speaking of the Mustang Challenge, real bummer that it is not still around. That would have been the perfect series to run a Shelby Branded car. Probably the most cost efficient professional series around that ran a Mustang. Would have been able to do a start off team for way under the $1mil mark. I was working with a local Ford dealer on putting together a team for last year. We were planning on running the entire season for under $500K with a used FR500S. We were planning on using existing shop space they have and they already had a F550 truck and 40ft trailer all set for the deal.

 

A buddy of mine rented a ride for the Rolex 24 last month. He wrecked the car (Porsche) during test days at the beginning of January. Car totalled, he had race rental insurance, his portion that he had to pay, was still $60K. His race budget is done for the next two years and he got 5 laps in the car. That was an expensive test day! Yea, racing is expensive!

 

 

Jeff, do you have info on the costs to run a team in NASA AI or AIX? Shelby at one time

promoted their packages for those series, but I never heard anything coming from that.

 

-Tom

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Jeff, do you have info on the costs to run a team in NASA AI or AIX? Shelby at one time

promoted their packages for those series, but I never heard anything coming from that.

 

-Tom

 

 

Wow, that is just too wide of a target. Depends on how many races you want to run and how fast you want to go. I'm sure many guys spend far under $50-$100K a year and probably some that can spend as much as some top teams in the above series. I know there's one guy on these forums that will be running his Terlingua in a bunch of AI races this year. Maybe he will chime in. Not sure if he'll say what he's spending per race. Some guys probably stretch their tires as far as possible and will run multiple races on a single set of tires. I'm sure some guys use one or two sets a weekend if they can afford. Some guys use a half ton pickup with an open trailer, some have $250K-$500K plus rigs. Some guys will have engines last all year, some will rebuild every race or two.

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Wow, that is just too wide of a target. Depends on how many races you want to run and how fast you want to go. I'm sure many guys spend far under $50-$100K a year and probably some that can spend as much as some top teams in the above series. I know there's one guy on these forums that will be running his Terlingua in a bunch of AI races this year. Maybe he will chime in. Not sure if he'll say what he's spending per race. Some guys probably stretch their tires as far as possible and will run multiple races on a single set of tires. I'm sure some guys use one or two sets a weekend if they can afford. Some guys use a half ton pickup with an open trailer, some have $250K-$500K plus rigs. Some guys will have engines last all year, some will rebuild every race or two.

 

 

Thanks for the info. Has the guy who is racing his Terlingua posted his plans on TS? (I

haven't searched yet.) I'm sure some of us reading this thread would lend some fan support

at the least.

 

-Tom

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Interesting, I was just speaking with one of the top WC GTS Mustang teams. Their budget for this year to do all the races (8 race schedule) is just a bit over $150K. That is just costs, already owning everything. About $25K tires, $25K entry fees, travel and crew about $50K, another $50K for other. Their crew is pretty much all volunteer other than travel costs. They are on the same engine from every race last year. Rebuilds around $6K. Other teams spend about three to five times that, but if you operate lean, you can be a winning World Challenge team for WAY under what I was talking above. I'm more used to the Ganassi's, Roush's, etc. of the Grand-Am world. They of course have crazy budgets for equipment, drivers, teams, etc. But you obviously do not need that to win! It helps, but you can win without all of that. Same with Grand-Am in the Rolex series. The difference in budget of a Ganassi, to the Rolex 24 winners, Shank racing is pretty amazing.

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Somebody smart once said that to make a million bucks in racing you have to spend two million....

Racing is a business that needs to be either profitable or at least help with marketing your product/service.

Shelby as a company has two basic options: 1. be a racing team or 2. sponsor an existing team

If it's an actual racing team, they would have to find actual sponsors that foot the bills, the same way as Ferrari, McLaren and other F1 teams do or as Roush does it in NASCAR.

If Shelby wants to sponsor a race team, then SPP could be the technical sponsor to somebody running Mustangs. I don't really see any other way that would make any economic sense.

My $.02

AJ

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