HARALD KELLEY Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Akos Feher, known as AJ (TS name - Bestia27) was the Production Manager for the GT-H & SGT. He has posted some great info in both the SGT and Terlingua sites from his time with SAI. Use this thread to ask questions and hopefully he will chime in with his knowledge of the program. AJ is one of the five signatures on the GT-H certifcate that you receive from Shelby when you register your GT-H. Check it out. Thanks AJ Edited January 21, 2012 by H0050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akos (AJ) Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Only if you ask nicely. And I don't guarantee I remember all the small details... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsastang67 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have been following the other topics you have been chiming in on and am very excited to see what information comes up for the Hertz cars. Thanks for all the input. It is appreciated by the Shelby community more than you know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Awesome any news you can share would be great!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19again Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Thanks AJ for giving us all this wonderful information. I can't wait for more! Standing by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have to ask aboiut the security wire. Was this really intedned to be for security or was this a Hertz request to detur theft or a novalty item? Any idea where they can be obtained as several folks have asked the question in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akos (AJ) Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 I have to ask aboiut the security wire. Was this really intedned to be for security or was this a Hertz request to detur theft or a novalty item? Any idea where they can be obtained as several folks have asked the question in the past. Which security wire? There was one in the traction control on/off button Is that the one you refer to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickSilverShelby Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Which security wire? There was one in the traction control on/off button Is that the one you refer to? It's the one in the engine compartment that connects from the valve cover to the shock tower (I think that's the connection points) QSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akos (AJ) Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 It's the one in the engine compartment that connects from the valve cover to the shock tower (I think that's the connection points) QSS Now I remember, thanks! It had two purposes: 1. It was a requirement from Hertz, to make sure the engine wasn't messed with. 2. It's a throwback nod to the past. Back in the days of the original 350GTH, some people took the motors out of the rental cars to race them on the weekends in another car. Sometimes they have simply returned the rental car with a stock motor. Hertz started putting these wires on the car and made them part of their return inspection. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 It's the one in the engine compartment that connects from the valve cover to the shock tower (I think that's the connection points) QSS Yes, the engine compartment one. The TC clip was just that, a small clip that kept the TC from being disengaged. AJ, maybe Hertz put the security wire on. Someone should post a picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Now I remember, thanks! It had two purposes: 1. It was a requirement from Hertz, to make sure the engine wasn't messed with. 2. It's a throwback nod to the past. Back in the days of the original 350GTH, some people took the motors out of the rental cars to race them on the weekends in another car. Sometimes they have simply returned the rental car with a stock motor. Hertz started putting these wires on the car and made them part of their return inspection. AJ Thanks. Any idea where to obtain this as several folks have asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akos (AJ) Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Thanks. Any idea where to obtain this as several folks have asked. If I recall correctly, these wires came from Hertz, but we installed them on the cars. I don't believe they were anything special. If somebody has a picture of it please post... AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsastang67 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) This obviously is not a close up but it does show the wire. This was car number 412. I looked at it prior to buying 279. Edited January 22, 2012 by dsastang67 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT NAJA Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Harald, Great thread to follow!!! AJ, Thanks for posting these Hertz Shelby details... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Maybe someone can help me with a traction clip .... mine was missing when I bought the car and have been looking for a original replacement for a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) Copied from the SGT site as a piece of info: why was the GT-H allowed to be produced with the deep draw hood, and not require front end testing, but the SGT would have required testing? The GT-H was a so called post-title car. Hertz bought the cars from Ford and then sent them to Shelby for conversion. Same thing as taking a GT500 and get the SuperSnake conversion on it. The SGT was sold through Ford dealers, therefore all the mods were made to it before the actual sale. Hence it's called a pre-title vehicle. The federal crash rules are different for pre-title cars than for post-title mods, you have to crash test everything safety related that is modified. The hood plays a huge role in passenger safety. When we did the KR, we had to re-crash a certain number of hoods and cars to be able to replace the aluminum hood with the carbon fiber one. AJ Edited January 22, 2012 by H0050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Maybe someone can help me with a traction clip .... mine was missing when I bought the car and have been looking for a original replacement for a few years. I got one from SAI couple of years ago. May be worth a call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 I got one from SAI couple of years ago. May be worth a call. Thank you Harald, I have tried that path with no success, if anyone is interested in selling/trading one that would be awesome!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akos (AJ) Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Not to burst anybody's bubble, but it was just a stock gage steel wire cut to length and bent up to shape. Maybe Harald can take a picture of his, measure the length and the dimensions of the shape and make one at home. My $.02 AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry T Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 If anyone can help me with this suggestion that would be awesome!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Copied from SGT site as it pertains to GT-H as well. AJ, I have a question that has probably been answered before on TS, but I can't find it. Why the difference in HP ratings between the SGT-H (325) and SGT (319)? Who determined each? Tom The SGT had to be certified (pre-title car) hence the 319HP comes from the fed's dyno. The GT-H (post-title car) was dyno-ed at Ford in Michigan and it didn't have to be a certified number. So the truth is somewhere between and around those numbers. And on top of that California cars got a slightly different tune that was a couple HP less than the 49 state tune... Actually your true HP depends on where you live, altitude, humidity etc... all those contribute to how much power you have. If you really want to know how many ponies you have under the hood, just throw it on the dyno... and then let us all know so we can start bench-racing :D AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) If anyone can help me with this suggestion that would be awesome!!!!! Larry, if you give me your email I will email a picture of the clip. Its just a bit smaller than a paper clip if I recal. Give me a day or two to get this unless someone beats me to it. You can post email or PM me. I find when I try to post pictures they are always to big. Edited January 23, 2012 by H0050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Here is a picture of the TC clip. The ends do appear to be cut from wire stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth0007 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 To be totally technical, the GT-H was NOT equipped with the "deep draw hood". The GT-H hood (CS6/8) hood is unique and very different from the "deep draw' hood which has heat extractors. Similar in look, but different. The "security" wire was required by Hertz (per the Hertz Corp Fleet VP) mostly as a throwback to the 1966 program. Hertz definitely wanted to connect the 1966 and 2006 cars, even though SAI would not call the GT-H the "GT-350H". Hope this helps, regards, Larry SAI / Team Shelby Registrar, Hertz GT-H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbymotorsports Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thank you Harald, I have tried that path with no success, if anyone is interested in selling/trading one that would be awesome!!!! Correct, SAI can not help with this. As AJ mentions the clips were not preformed as individual clips but were rather formed from steel wire off a spool. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT-C0056 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 So what was the purpose of the clip, just to keep rental customers from disangaing the the traction control? was the clip removed prior to sale to public? I have not looked, but imagine its located in the shifter area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akos (AJ) Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 So what was the purpose of the clip, just to keep rental customers from disangaing the the traction control? was the clip removed prior to sale to public? I have not looked, but imagine its located in the shifter area It was located behind the traction control's off button. It stopped all rental customers from pushing the button in. Most didn't know how to remove the clip, but most gear heads did. So, maybe if your car came without, someone must have removed it before doing a reenactment of the Bullitt chase scene... AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gth0007 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Per Hertz Corp VP of Maintenance and the VP of Fleet, the intent of the TC clip was safety first and damage to tires and drive train components second. One has to remember that the average GT-H renter was not used to a rear wheel drive performance car. The clip idea came, very cautiously, from Ford. hope this helps, Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akos (AJ) Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Per Hertz Corp VP of Maintenance and the VP of Fleet, the intent of the TC clip was safety first and damage to tires and drive train components second. One has to remember that the average GT-H renter was not used to a rear wheel drive performance car. The clip idea came, very cautiously, from Ford. hope this helps, Larry Actually the clip was developed by Vince and Carl, if I remember correctly. It was one of those last minute problems that needed a quick and ingenious solution. And while we "management" are sitting around a table trying to figure out a solution, these guys go and make it happen in 5 minutes. Brilliant and pretty funny at the same time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARALD KELLEY Posted January 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I hear that the GT-H hood was signed on the under side by some of the employees during the build prior to the blanket being installed. Can you confirm or deny? I have not removed mine to check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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