SHELBYCS6 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 So I just received my second detailed Ford document regarding my vehicle and I'm a little disappointed to say the least. First of all, it is detailed to the build but I was expecting to see a much better breakdown on the amount of vehicles built exactly like mine with the Nav, Hid pkg etc. but it shows none of that. Secondly, my first Ford certificate indicates mine is # 1403 of 3532 coupes and # 280 of 523 manufactured in Grabber Blue. The new Ford detailed build sheet doesn't indicate anything about my build sequence at all but does indicate there were 3948 coupes built and 519 in Grabber Blue. These are certificates I paid good money for to have accurate, detailed information provided so I'm feeling a little ripped -off that you can't even get accurate information right from Ford. The new information indicates an additional 416 coupes produced but four less in Grabber Blue....WTF... This to me is completely unacceptable especially when the information is coming directly from the manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11ShelbyGT500 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 The same problem with the 2011 stats. Ford doesn't talk to SVT and vice versa. SVT includes some preproduction cars that they decide to release to the public; while Ford is not including them in the numbers. Ford groups verts and coupes together; while SVT separates them out. It get better than that; pre-production cars that are not supposed to be released to the public are being sold on top of the ones that were designated to be sold to the public. Here is an example of a preproduction car that was not supposed to be released: http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tab=summary&recnum=&actLog=&listingId=66414720&paId=399320730&listingRecNum=6&criteria=sf1Dir%3dDESC%26alMdId%3d21712%26mkId%3d20015%26stkTyp%3dU%26ldNmb%3d30%26mdId%3d21712%26kwm%3dANY%26rd%3d100000%26crSrtFlds%3dstkTypId Call SVT yourself with the vin of this car, you will see it doesn't hold a #. So $45 here $45 there adds up; while Ford numbers don't add up. This whole numbering thing is a big joke on us with Ford laughing all the way to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Alibi 2 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 Was disappointed in the " certificate of authenticity " / MY breakdown package from www.fordshowparts.com but not because of the numbers. These sheets gave so much information that I was unable to break it down to " how many of my car " they built......( MY 2011 ) . Ordered a " deluxe build sheet from www.shopfordgear.com ( 1 ) sheet of paper, based on my VIN #...................listed everything, & a breakdown...( gross # made, # of coupes, # in my color group, how many of my car ) . Looking @ the two documents, where the same information was provided by both sheets, the numbers were the same !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wickedgt500 Posted June 7, 2011 Report Share Posted June 7, 2011 The same problem with the 2011 stats. Ford doesn't talk to SVT and vice versa. SVT includes some preproduction cars that they decide to release to the public; while Ford is not including them in the numbers. Ford groups verts and coupes together; while SVT separates them out. It get better than that; pre-production cars that are not supposed to be released to the public are being sold on top of the ones that were designated to be sold to the public. Here is an example of a preproduction car that was not supposed to be released: http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tab=summary&recnum=&actLog=&listingId=66414720&paId=399320730&listingRecNum=6&criteria=sf1Dir%3dDESC%26alMdId%3d21712%26mkId%3d20015%26stkTyp%3dU%26ldNmb%3d30%26mdId%3d21712%26kwm%3dANY%26rd%3d100000%26crSrtFlds%3dstkTypId Call SVT yourself with the vin of this car, you will see it doesn't hold a #. So $45 here $45 there adds up; while Ford numbers don't add up. This whole numbering thing is a big joke on us with Ford laughing all the way to the bank. How do you know that's a pre-production car that was not supposed to be released? Just wondering how you figured that out, I'm sure its simple and I'm gonna look like a dumb ass for not knowing but I gotta ask! Thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11ShelbyGT500 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 How do you know that's a pre-production car that was not supposed to be released? Just wondering how you figured that out, I'm sure its simple and I'm gonna look like a dumb ass for not knowing but I gotta ask! Thanks.... I was interested in buying the car. So, I called SVT and they told me it was a preproduction car with a number of #10000X of 950; instead of it being like #5 of 950. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1wickedgt500 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I was interested in buying the car. So, I called SVT and they told me it was a preproduction car with a number of #10000X of 950; instead of it being like #5 of 950. Very cool, thanks for the info. Is SVT cool about calling to get info on a car? I'd love to know more about the build #s than the $45 thing told me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COBRA SCOTTY Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I was interested in buying the car. So, I called SVT and they told me it was a preproduction car with a number of #10000X of 950; instead of it being like #5 of 950. You should be happy preproduction cars always are a highly desirable vehicle and often worth more than a regularly numbered production numbered car ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELBYCS6 Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Was disappointed in the " certificate of authenticity " / MY breakdown package from www.fordshowparts.com but not because of the numbers. These sheets gave so much information that I was unable to break it down to " how many of my car " they built......( MY 2011 ) . Ordered a " deluxe build sheet from www.shopfordgear.com ( 1 ) sheet of paper, based on my VIN #...................listed everything, & a breakdown...( gross # made, # of coupes, # in my color group, how many of my car ) . Looking @ the two documents, where the same information was provided by both sheets, the numbers were the same !! Interesting, I wonder if anyone else ordered the certificate and deluxe build sheet for the 2010 to see if their numbers match. It's the "deluxe build sheet" I just received and it indicates number of coupes and how many in Grabber Blue but those numbers are different from my certificate of authenticity. What I really wanted was how many of my exact build were produced with the nav and hid in a grabber blue coupe and it would have been perfect if I knew how many were shipped to Canada. Aanybody know who I could call at SVT to try and confirm what happened to these numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELBYCS6 Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 The same problem with the 2011 stats. Ford doesn't talk to SVT and vice versa. SVT includes some preproduction cars that they decide to release to the public; while Ford is not including them in the numbers. Ford groups verts and coupes together; while SVT separates them out. It get better than that; pre-production cars that are not supposed to be released to the public are being sold on top of the ones that were designated to be sold to the public. Here is an example of a preproduction car that was not supposed to be released: http://www.cars.com/...Flds%3dstkTypId Call SVT yourself with the vin of this car, you will see it doesn't hold a #. So $45 here $45 there adds up; while Ford numbers don't add up. This whole numbering thing is a big joke on us with Ford laughing all the way to the bank. I could understand the numbers being over by 10 or 20 for pre-production vehicles but over by 400 + that seems impossible and what about number of Grabber Blue being less ? If any number should have matched it should have been this one unless four Grabber Blue cars got scrapped after production. SVT just builds the engine at Romeo, it does not install it in the car. The engines are shipped back to the AAI plant and the GT-500 is assembled on the line with everything else. I'm not even sure why SVT (Romeo) would even track these build numbers as they never even know what car will receive what engine. They get orders to build x-amount of engines and when the orders are complete they are shipped back to AAI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitoScilla Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 What I really wanted was how many of my exact build were produced with the nav and hid in a grabber blue coupe and it would have been perfect if I knew how many were shipped to Canada. Aanybody know who I could call at SVT to try and confirm what happened to these numbers? The 2011 Certificate / Build Stats (4150 Coupes and 950 Verts) DOES include Pre-Production cars....which I believe was a total of 31? I do not have the data with me at the moment. I called SVT/Ford to obtain an even more detailed breakdown to find out how many were ordered EXACTLY as mine...and was told that would not happen as the possible number of combinations / permutations would be too time consuming for them to compile….thus creating an insanely large spreadsheet. Makes sense, but do they not have computers/programs to help figure this out? On a personal note - I know my car is 1 of 72 Sterling Gray Coupes ordered with SVTPP AND Stripes...based on the breakdown provided by SVT. I have since located two other cars in Sterling Gray with the SVTPP Stripes that were ordered differently than mine. One has a glass roof (I do not) and the other did not have Nav (I do). Therefore...I am comfortable saying my car is Definitely 1 of 70 possible cars ordered "EXACTLY" as mine. Now I just need to locate all their vins so I can break it all down based on window sticker data. Other than the latter or having a GREAT HOOK inside Ford - I do not see this info coming to fruition any time soon. So - who wants to help me locate the other cars ~Vito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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11ShelbyGT500 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 The same problem with the 2011 stats. Ford doesn't talk to SVT and vice versa. SVT includes some preproduction cars that they decide to release to the public; while Ford is not including them in the numbers. Ford groups verts and coupes together; while SVT separates them out. It get better than that; pre-production cars that are not supposed to be released to the public are being sold on top of the ones that were designated to be sold to the public. Here is an example of a preproduction car that was not supposed to be released: http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tab=summary&recnum=&actLog=&listingId=66414720&paId=399320730&listingRecNum=6&criteria=sf1Dir%3dDESC%26alMdId%3d21712%26mkId%3d20015%26stkTyp%3dU%26ldNmb%3d30%26mdId%3d21712%26kwm%3dANY%26rd%3d100000%26crSrtFlds%3dstkTypId'>http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tab=summary&recnum=&actLog=&listingId=66414720&paId=399320730&listingRecNum=6&criteria=sf1Dir%3dDESC%26alMdId%3d21712%26mkId%3d20015%26stkTyp%3dU%26ldNmb%3d30%26mdId%3d21712%26kwm%3dANY%26rd%3d100000%26crSrtFlds%3dstkTypId Call SVT yourself with the vin of this car, you will see it doesn't hold a #. So $45 here $45 there adds up; while Ford numbers don't add up. This whole numbering thing is a big joke on us with Ford laughing all the way to the bank. Looking at the pictures again you will notice this car has heated seats! http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tab=summary&recnum=&actLog=&listingId=66414720&paId=399320730&listingRecNum=6&criteria=sf1Dir%3dDESC%26alMdId%3d21712%26mkId%3d20015%26stkTyp%3dU%26ldNmb%3d30%26mdId%3d21712%26kwm%3dANY%26rd%3d100000%26crSrtFlds%3dstkTypId Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELBYCS6 Posted June 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Well I just received a second letter from Ford, I guess they must have sent me a base one first time around by mistake as this detailed one does has everything I was looking for. This shows 4,458 produced 3,545 coupes 525 produced in Grabber blue and mine is one of 261 produced in my exact configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemarin Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Here's the sheet included with my certificate. It says there was 950 convertible built, from what, 131 were Kona blue like mine. You can also see all the different options listed. Based on the daylight running light (compulsory in Canada), only 33 were made with it....so it looks like only 33 Kona blue Convertible cross the border to Canada or 2011 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Has anyone purchased one of the Ford numbers breakdown cert? If so, would you post it here or email me a copy. I really would like to see what they look like before dropping the coin on it. The photo on Fords site is tiny, and very hard to see. Thanx in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELBYCS6 Posted July 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Has anyone purchased one of the Ford numbers breakdown cert? If so, would you post it here or email me a copy. I really would like to see what they look like before dropping the coin on it. The photo on Fords site is tiny, and very hard to see. Thanx in advance. Here is my deluxe Ford build sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
07SGT4578 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Thanx. Much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_driver Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Here's the sheet included with my certificate. It says there was 950 convertible built, from what, 131 were Kona blue like mine. You can also see all the different options listed. Based on the daylight running light (compulsory in Canada), only 33 were made with it....so it looks like only 33 Kona blue Convertible cross the border to Canada or 2011 ! Don't some States require DRLs as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDrool Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 Don't some States require DRLs as well? That would be Fed requirement. Just like the third brake light, ESC, TC, among others. It would be difficult logistics for auto mfg's to change the assembly lines for each state. I'm sure they don't have good feelings for CA with all their requirments as is. Although, DRL is probably only a computer change. My Fusion Hybrid can have DRL if the computer were programmed for it. It doesn't since DRL would use battery power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubbs Posted July 15, 2011 Report Share Posted July 15, 2011 I could understand the numbers being over by 10 or 20 for pre-production vehicles good guess on the 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madlock Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Here's the sheet included with my certificate. It says there was 950 convertible built, from what, 131 were Kona blue like mine. You can also see all the different options listed. Based on the daylight running light (compulsory in Canada), only 33 were made with it....so it looks like only 33 Kona blue Convertible cross the border to Canada or 2011 ! Canada historically receives a hugely disproportionate number of convertibles - more than 20% of all convertibles made. Probably has something to do with people wanting to take greater advantage of shorter periods of optimum weather. 202 2011 Convertibles were made for Canada. 64 - Black 33 - Race Red 33 - Kona Blue Metallic 29 - Performance White 18 - Sterling Grey Metallic 18 - Ingot Silver Metallic 7 - Grabber Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army tc Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Canada historically receives a hugely disproportionate number of convertibles - more than 20% of all convertibles made. Probably has something to do with people wanting to take greater advantage of shorter periods of optimum weather. 202 2011 Convertibles were made for Canada. 64 - Black 33 - Race Red 33 - Kona Blue Metallic 29 - Performance White 18 - Sterling Grey Metallic 18 - Ingot Silver Metallic 7 - Grabber Blue Madlock..... Can you tell me anything about my 2010 Shelby GT500? It's Red with white stripe/HID Lights/Shaker 1000. It was sent to Pennsylvania, bought in Pennstlvania. Thanks, Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madlock Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 Madlock..... Can you tell me anything about my 2010 Shelby GT500? It's Red with white stripe/HID Lights/Shaker 1000. It was sent to Pennsylvania, bought in Pennstlvania. Thanks, Dennis Sure. It would've been even-better with navigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army tc Posted July 24, 2011 Report Share Posted July 24, 2011 You are a funny man! Honestly, I would like some numbers on my 2010 GT 500 Coupe, such as how many torch red coupes were built with HID and Shaker 1000. How many were shipped ro Pennsylvania, etc. Thanks for any info that you can provide. ARMY TC [ quote name=Madlock' timestamp='1311474538' post='1183752] Sure. It would've been even-better with navigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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