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The rear size - 285/35/20 - have a few choices out there other than the stock G2s. The front size 265/40/19 does not seem to have any alternatives to the G2. This information is from the Tire Rack website

 

Having said this, even for the rears, all but one of the the alternatives that Tire Rack list seem to be more expensive than the G2s.

 

My conclusion thus far is that I'll stick to the G2s, probably ordered from Tire Rack and installed locally.

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The rear size - 285/35/20 - have a few choices out there other than the stock G2s. The front size 265/40/19 does not seem to have any alternatives to the G2. This information is from the Tire Rack website

 

Having said this, even for the rears, all but one of the the alternatives that Tire Rack list seem to be more expensive than the G2s.

 

My conclusion thus far is that I'll stick to the G2s, probably ordered from Tire Rack and installed locally.

 

 

I've had a lot of success getting Goodyear Gemini to match Tire Rack prices on Goodyear tires and then you get free install/alignment etc.

 

That's what I plan on doing with mine when they run out.

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The stock Supercar F1 G: 2s are the only matched set of their size for the SVTPP - and their cost ($450/per), high road wear rate, and uselessness below 40 degrees Fahrenheit led me to buy a set of 19" wheels the dealer is installing before delivery. The SVT wheels and tires will be either permanently stored or saved for track/show for me.

 

You can go with a staggered setup, but I went with 19's all around to soften the SVT ride a hair on everyday streets - and frankly, to improve the selection of tires available. The biggest challenge is the rear wheels - and you're going to have to go with 275/40-19's to keep close to the original rear tire diameter (28") without exceeding any of its dimensions, especially since Ford has not yet offered a PCM tool to reprogram for smaller rear wheels on SVTPP vehicles (and they're not likely to - given the hand-in-hand relationship of the suspension and tires SVT has touted).

 

275/40-19's are 5mm smaller in diameter (.69%). You COULD risk 285/40-19's and go the other way, but your tire is then 3mm larger than stock and you're on your own with clearances - and your number of available choices go from several to very few - with most being winter/snow and grand touring tires rather than any sort of performance tire. For the front, you're pretty-much going to have to go with 255/40-19's.

 

TireRack may be terrific, but only for the products they actually carry - and they don't carry nearly all the available options. Across MANY sources, here's what I've found for 275/40-19 and 255/40-19 sets.

 

All-Season Performance (High, Ultra- High, Etc).

 

Bridgestone Potenza RE960 A/S Pole Position

 

Bridgestone Potenza RE050 Pole Position

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S

Yokohama ADVAN S4

Falken FK452

Continental ExtremeContact DW (& DWS)

 

 

Continental ContiSpotContact & ContiSpotContact 2

Pirelli P-Zero Nero A/S (& Nero M + S)

Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S

BF Goodrich G-Force All Season

 

Grand Touring All-Season

 

Bridgestone Turanza Serenity

Continental ContiproContact

 

Summer Tires

 

Michelin Pilot Sport PS2

Michelin Pilot Primacy

Dunlop SP Sport 01 (and 01A)

Dunlop SP Spot Maxx TT

Hankook Ventus V12

Pirelli P-Zero Rosso

Pirelli Eufori Run Flat

Yokohama ADVAN Sport

Yokohama S Drive

 

Winter Tires (Also Available in 285/40-19)

 

Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3

Pirelli Winter 240 Sottozero (& Serie II)

 

 

By NO means is this list meant to be inclusive - nor does it purport to make any sort of recommendation about a specific tire. It's just a list of tires that come in the required sizes (which kind of narrows it down to good/high performers with acceptable speed ratings by nature). Just don't let yourself be limited to what's available on Tirerack.com. Their selection is FAR from complete.

 

I had ALSO considered going to 18" wheels from the 2010 GT500 Convertible which are both OEM and cheap - but at the end of the day, I figured if I ever really wanted to push the car in the twisties, the closer I remained to the intended SVT tire dimensions and aspect ratios, the better I'd be - and stepping the rear wheels down to 19" was about as much as I'd be comfortable deviating from the drafting table. But I'm still very much considering a set of 18" wheels I could mount for longer trips in the traditional "Grand Touring" sense (which has always left me unable to figure-out why a V8 Mustang would use a name derived from a term used to describe leisurely driving, but that's another matter) or to just have some cheap rubber to mount on the car whose sole purpose would be to become blue smoke.

 

With a set of TPMS modules unto themselves, I'm into the 19" wheels/tires for about $2,800 once all is said and done, but the good news is that it expands the GT500's range of usability exponentially, and I don't have to worry about dinging the SVTPP wheels. Because of the MUCH wider assortment (and lower price) of appropriately-sized tires to go with 18", I figure I can strip-out almost $1,200 from the cost of a third set which would also give me the option or going summer-only on the 19's and Winter/Snow on 18's. It's not something I'm likely to do given that no flake of snow is ever likely to touch its paint, but it's still a nice option to have.

 

I hope this helps.

 

P.S. If anybody has discovered any additional matched sets of tires that are suitable for vehicles set-up for the SVTPP, I'd be happy to add them to the list I've compiled and put them into a spreadsheet with links and so forth for others to eventually use as a reference.

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You don't like the tires that come with?

 

Yes they are OK. I've had the car 2 months now and have 10k miles. From what I hear of their treadwaer life span because of the nature of the tire, I figured I petter start looking.

 

The stock Supercar F1 G: 2s are the only matched set of their size for the SVTPP - and their cost ($450/per), high road wear rate, and uselessness below 40 degrees Fahrenheit led me to buy a set of 19" wheels the dealer is installing before delivery. The SVT wheels and tires will be either permanently stored or saved for track/show for me.

 

You can go with a staggered setup, but I went with 19's all around to soften the SVT ride a hair on everyday streets - and frankly, to improve the selection of tires available. The biggest challenge is the rear wheels - and you're going to have to go with 275/40-19's to keep close to the original rear tire diameter (28") without exceeding any of its dimensions, especially since Ford has not yet offered a PCM tool to reprogram for smaller rear wheels on SVTPP vehicles (and they're not likely to - given the hand-in-hand relationship of the suspension and tires SVT has touted).

 

275/40-19's are 5mm smaller in diameter (.69%). You COULD risk 285/40-19's and go the other way, but your tire is then 3mm larger than stock and you're on your own with clearances - and your number of available choices go from several to very few - with most being winter/snow and grand touring tires rather than any sort of performance tire. For the front, you're pretty-much going to have to go with 255/40-19's.

 

TireRack may be terrific, but only for the products they actually carry - and they don't carry nearly all the available options. Across MANY sources, here's what I've found for 275/40-19 and 255/40-19 sets.

 

All-Season Performance (High, Ultra- High, Etc).

 

Bridgestone Potenza RE960 A/S Pole Position

 

Bridgestone Potenza RE050 Pole Position

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S

Yokohama ADVAN S4

Falken FK452

Continental ExtremeContact DW (& DWS)

 

 

Continental ContiSpotContact & ContiSpotContact 2

Pirelli P-Zero Nero A/S (& Nero M + S)

Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S

BF Goodrich G-Force All Season

 

Grand Touring All-Season

 

Bridgestone Turanza Serenity

Continental ContiproContact

 

Summer Tires

 

Michelin Pilot Sport PS2

Michelin Pilot Primacy

Dunlop SP Sport 01 (and 01A)

Dunlop SP Spot Maxx TT

Hankook Ventus V12

Pirelli P-Zero Rosso

Pirelli Eufori Run Flat

Yokohama ADVAN Sport

Yokohama S Drive

 

Winter Tires (Also Available in 285/40-19)

 

Michelin Pilot Alpin PA3

Pirelli Winter 240 Sottozero (& Serie II)

 

 

By NO means is this list meant to be inclusive - nor does it purport to make any sort of recommendation about a specific tire. It's just a list of tires that come in the required sizes (which kind of narrows it down to good/high performers with acceptable speed ratings by nature). Just don't let yourself be limited to what's available on Tirerack.com. Their selection is FAR from complete.

 

I had ALSO considered going to 18" wheels from the 2010 GT500 Convertible which are both OEM and cheap - but at the end of the day, I figured if I ever really wanted to push the car in the twisties, the closer I remained to the intended SVT tire dimensions and aspect ratios, the better I'd be - and stepping the rear wheels down to 19" was about as much as I'd be comfortable deviating from the drafting table. But I'm still very much considering a set of 18" wheels I could mount for longer trips in the traditional "Grand Touring" sense (which has always left me unable to figure-out why a V8 Mustang would use a name derived from a term used to describe leisurely driving, but that's another matter) or to just have some cheap rubber to mount on the car whose sole purpose would be to become blue smoke.

 

With a set of TPMS modules unto themselves, I'm into the 19" wheels/tires for about $2,800 once all is said and done, but the good news is that it expands the GT500's range of usability exponentially, and I don't have to worry about dinging the SVTPP wheels. Because of the MUCH wider assortment (and lower price) of appropriately-sized tires to go with 18", I figure I can strip-out almost $1,200 from the cost of a third set which would also give me the option or going summer-only on the 19's and Winter/Snow on 18's. It's not something I'm likely to do given that no flake of snow is ever likely to touch its paint, but it's still a nice option to have.

 

I hope this helps.

 

P.S. If anybody has discovered any additional matched sets of tires that are suitable for vehicles set-up for the SVTPP, I'd be happy to add them to the list I've compiled and put them into a spreadsheet with links and so forth for others to eventually use as a reference.

 

 

Wow, you put some time into this!! I will stick with stock sizes. I will buy locally just because tires are not something I feel comfortable with online purchase. i want to se the brick and mortor. Just me???

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Madlock: Impressive research, but I must say I'm puzzled by your decision to pre-emptively replace the stock SVTPP wheels and tires before you've even given them a chance. I may yet go the route of replacement wheels and cheaper tires, but only AFTER I've gone through a set of the G2s to get first hand information on how long they'll last and then assess the cost-benefit of new wheels+tires versus just getting replacement sets of the G2s. How many miles per year are you planning on driving?

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Yes they are OK. I've had the car 2 months now and have 10k miles. From what I hear of their treadwaer life span because of the nature of the tire, I figured I petter start looking.

 

 

 

Wow, you put some time into this!! I will stick with stock sizes. I will buy locally just because tires are not something I feel comfortable with online purchase. i want to se the brick and mortor. Just me???

 

 

 

So long as you realize that "stock sizes" mean the F1 G: 2s. They're the only ones that exist (without going to a mixed set) AFAIK.

 

As far as buying locally, while I'd prefer to support my local economy and tax base first, local vendors don't always carry as full a line - or a particular SKU that I happen to want. I'm surprised by how many local vendors weren't interested in ordering them without a punitively-expensive price markup.

 

I'm choosing to give the dealer the opportunity to provide them on a "meet or beat" basis, but I have second and third sources for every one I'm considering (I'm going to have to pull the trigger in the next week). As far as being able to touch and feel a product, I certainly understand - but unless I'm able to drive on them first to try them out, I'm pretty-much in the same boat wherever I happen to buy them as long as they're warrantied - so I suppose at least THAT particular aspect of the process isn't as meaningful to me.

 

Best of luck.

 

 

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Madlock: Impressive research, but I must say I'm puzzled by your decision to pre-emptively replace the stock SVTPP wheels and tires before you've even given them a chance. I may yet go the route of replacement wheels and cheaper tires, but only AFTER I've gone through a set of the G2s to get first hand information on how long they'll last and then assess the cost-benefit of new wheels+tires versus just getting replacement sets of the G2s. How many miles per year are you planning on driving?

 

 

Actually, probably not a great many miles overall.

 

As I wrote, I'd prefer to keep them predominately for track use, AND to avoid dinging those re-frigging-diculously expensive to replace wheels, at least for the time being. PLUS, with winter not being all that far off and temperatures likely to start falling fairly soon, I'd be likely to change tires fairly soon, whether to drive on clearer cold days or to store for the winter, anyway. Not to mention these fine NJ roads tend to chew-up wheels but quick.

 

Perhaps my decision would have been different had I received my car earlier in the year with more warm weather months left to drive where the stock SVT tires would have been more usable everyday. I suppose I've always been something of an "abundance of caution" kind of guy in that respect. Plus, if 2012 happens to hold forth some truly revolutionary improvement that would make me want to take the hit of a short trade-up interval, I think I'd be better-served by having the stock wheels ready to go, unused to those who'd be willing to pay the highest sums for a well cared-for example as something bought to preserve more than to drive.

 

At the end of the day, it's probably not any ONE of those factors but the combination of them that's leading me to put all-season's on it from the git go.

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OK, to each his own...

 

For my part:

- I bought the car to drive every day as my daily driver, all year 'round in Houston weather except for the rare freezing spell.

- For sure I don't need the G2s to drive back and forth to work, but I'm also not worried about dings because it's a daily driver, and daily drivers will get dinged no matter what.

- Since I'm not going to track the car, it makes little sense to keep the G2 for the track.

- I'm also not going to trade up the car anytime soon; I'm amazed that the Finance Manager (a.k.a. wife) allowed me to buy this one; I don't plan on tempting fate by going back asking for another one!

 

So unless the G2s are ridiculously short-lived, replacement G2 sets are my plan...

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BFG KDW2s, and Nitto Invo. Prolly the best replacement tires you can buy without breaking the bank. I am not a fan of GY after replacing the ones that came on my vette. I swapped them out for wider KDW2s and traction wasnt an issue until I got over 600hp, then Invos were next in line.

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I'll have to take a look at the KDW2's, presuming they're size-available for the GT500. I've never quite been able to bring myself to the Nittos. I know they're popular for their looks and have developed quite a following in some circles, but they've always just been a little to "Pimp My Ride" to me - plus the name on the wheel is just a little TOO 1920's Chicago for me. :)

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plus the name on the wheel is just a little TOO 1920's Chicago for me. :)

 

:hysterical:

I thought I was the only one who had an aversion to the name! But at least it's not as bad as Kumho Ecsta Supra, which any way you look at it, sounds like a bad porno movie... :hysterical: Really have to wonder what their marketing guys were ingesting...

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:hysterical:

I thought I was the only one who had an aversion to the name! But at least it's not as bad as Kumho Ecsta Supra, which any way you look at it, sounds like a bad porno movie... :hysterical: Really have to wonder what their marketing guys were ingesting...

 

 

LMAO!

 

Could you imagine the product descriptions? Especially those that are automatically translated?

 

"The super-sticky Kumho's had amazing grip on in both wet and dry conditions that led to tremendous excitement...." Eeeew!

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I'll have to take a look at the KDW2's, presuming they're size-available for the GT500. I've never quite been able to bring myself to the Nittos. I know they're popular for their looks and have developed quite a following in some circles, but they've always just been a little to "Pimp My Ride" to me - plus the name on the wheel is just a little TOO 1920's Chicago for me. :)

 

 

 

KDW2s I ran on my vette was 295/30 or 25/19 and 295 was the widest they went in that rim size. I ran a 245/45/18 in the front, you should have no problem finding stock size tires.

 

On the Nitto Invos, theres more to them then just pimp my ride looks. In the vette world most people around 500hp use KDW2s, or some GY non runcrap. Anything above that they use Nitto Invo for ultra sticky tire without spending out the arse for Mich PS2s. I had the same set of KDW2s on my vette for 3yrs and 37k miles with plenty of tread left.

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KDW2s I ran on my vette was 295/30 or 25/19 and 295 was the widest they went in that rim size. I ran a 245/45/18 in the front, you should have no problem finding stock size tires.

 

On the Nitto Invos, theres more to them then just pimp my ride looks. In the vette world most people around 500hp use KDW2s, or some GY non runcrap. Anything above that they use Nitto Invo for ultra sticky tire without spending out the arse for Mich PS2s. I had the same set of KDW2s on my vette for 3yrs and 37k miles with plenty of tread left.

 

 

 

Perhaps it's time for me to redefine some of my biases and broaden my horizons.

 

Do you know if the Invos and KDW2s are all-season tires (or at least not "summer only")?

 

Thanks again.

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Ive driven the KDW2s in hurricane style rain and never lost traction. I think both tires are listed as not for extreme cold weather. The Invos kind of have a similar tread pattern like the stock GY on the 2011s....but traction is a lot better.

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Ive driven the KDW2s in hurricane style rain and never lost traction. I think both tires are listed as not for extreme cold weather. The Invos kind of have a similar tread pattern like the stock GY on the 2011s....but traction is a lot better.

 

Thanks. Unfortunately, neither are available in compatible sizes for an SVTPP car on 19's. :(

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Im on TireRack and they have a 265/30, 275/35 in 19s, and a 285/55, 295/45 in 20s. In the KDW2s.

 

 

Yep. No joy for the SVTPP driver.

 

I've decided in favor of Bridgestone Potenza RE960 Pole Position UHP All-Seasons - with Continental ExtremeContact's as a backup if availability runs short - all on 19's. It breaks my heart to give up 1/2" of width, especially for the rear, but I've accepted it just comes with the territory. It took me a LONG time to finally come to terms with that rather than staggering a set of 19/20 aftermarket wheels and going with the Continental ContiProContacts, which are a V-Rated LRR touring tire, but with AA traction and excellent wear characteristics instead .

 

What amazes me (and make no mistake, I custom-ordered my car with the SVTPP - so I'm including myself first and foremost) is that the SVTPP's take rate is SO high, given the HUGE limitations and additional costs it imposes, for the sake of a few n-ths of additional performance at the very extremes (which is admittedly a lot of what the GT500 is all about).

 

But unless 75% of people are planning to track their cars or drive them MUCH more aggressively than most laws allow, I'd suggest that the majority of people who buy it aren't likely to ever get enough out of it to make the additional investment worthwhile. As a shareholder, kudos to Ford for making such a high-margin option so attractive - but if people actually bought according to their actual probable use, the take rate would be almost exactly the opposite (1 in 4 versus 3 in 4).

 

This is one case when I'd have MUCH preferred a year or two of other people's experiences to rely on. Unfortunately, I guess I'm at the proverbial vanguard. All I can hope for is to not become a cautionary tale.

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Madlock - with all due respect, stop already with the endless pessimistic analysis and self-flagellation!!!

 

The SVTPP is an awesome package. I love the ride and confidence inspiring handling and the 3:73 gears and the lowered stance and the looks of the wheels - NO REGRETS!

 

This is after 3 months of purely daily driver use - the only use that this car is going to get.

 

Getting the GT500 is fundamentally not a cost-benefit thing - if it were, we'd all be driving 5.0 GTs instead, or maybe Ford Tauruses. Getting the SVTPP is just another step along that path - NOT A COST BENEFIT THING!!!!

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If anybody is going to mod, the stock G2s just won't do... Even though I purposely got the SVT package, I'm thinking about eventually widening the stockers or getting all new wheels. 9 1/2 wide wheels on a 550HP vehicle is a joke. Couple that with little sidewall and forget traction. I wonder if we could match an 18inch rim to a tire to get stock height? Wider and more sidewall = TRACTION! Especially for those electing for power mods! The alternative is widening the stockers. Anybody know if there is a problem widening the SVT wheels? I'd love to be able to fit a 315 or 325.

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If anybody is going to mod, the stock G2s just won't do... Even though I got purposely got the SVT package, I'm thinking about eventually widening the stockers or getting all new wheels. 9 1/2 wide wheels on a 550HP vehicle is a joke. Couple that with little sidewall and forget traction. I wonder if we could match an 18inch rim to a tire to get stock height? Wider and more sidewall = TRACTION! Especially for those electing for power mods! The alternative is widening the stockers. Anybody know if there is a problem widening the SVT wheels? I'd love to be able to fit a 315 or 325.

 

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If anybody is going to mod, the stock G2s just won't do... Even though I purposely got the SVT package, I'm thinking about eventually widening the stockers or getting all new wheels. 9 1/2 wide wheels on a 550HP vehicle is a joke. Couple that with little sidewall and forget traction. I wonder if we could match an 18inch rim to a tire to get stock height? Wider and more sidewall = TRACTION! Especially for those electing for power mods! The alternative is widening the stockers. Anybody know if there is a problem widening the SVT wheels? I'd love to be able to fit a 315 or 325.

 

 

 

If you want to go to a wider tire, the correct size for the rear on 18" wheels would be 305/40-18, or 285/45-18 (which are just a tad oversized). You're probably going to have to make-up for the difference with a much smaller offset wheel given how finicky the SVT specs seem to be about wheel particulars.

 

I was actually surprised to see Late Model Restoration sell a set of RTR-S and 275/35-19 Nitto 555's (though not for GT500), until I remembered the RTR's have a 33mm offset versus the stock 45, which will make-up for the additional tire width.

 

I had hoped to have a set of wheels and tires to the dealer to have installed before I took delivery, so I could shelve and store the SVTPP wheels for track use - but I may just have to live with using the F-1 G: 2s during the last few weeks of temperate fall weather until I find myself a combination I feel entirely good about (I also don't want to store the car for the winter on the SVT tires.

 

I realize this is part of the non-monetary price one pays for access to the boundaries of the performance envelope, but it sure can be a pain in the ass sometimes. I'm hoping the winter months will see the aftermarket develop SVTPP-specific products.

 

 

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Madlock - with all due respect, stop already with the endless pessimistic analysis and self-flagellation!!!

 

The SVTPP is an awesome package. I love the ride and confidence inspiring handling and the 3:73 gears and the lowered stance and the looks of the wheels - NO REGRETS!

 

This is after 3 months of purely daily driver use - the only use that this car is going to get.

 

Getting the GT500 is fundamentally not a cost-benefit thing - if it were, we'd all be driving 5.0 GTs instead, or maybe Ford Tauruses. Getting the SVTPP is just another step along that path - NOT A COST BENEFIT THING!!!!

 

 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd probably feel the same too - if I had Texas weather year-round.

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