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Now, I'm not going to go complaining about the base price premiums Canadians are being made to pay, even after converting Loons to Greenbacks - but the SVTPP is one hell of a north of the border bargain at a mere $2K (though to be fair, the U.S. pricing is really a nice bit of gross margin for Dearborn).

 

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Now, I'm not going to go complaining about the base price premiums Canadians are being made to pay, even after converting Loons to Greenbacks - but the SVTPP is one hell of a north of the border bargain at a mere $2K (though to be fair, the U.S. pricing is really a nice bit of gross margin for Dearborn).

 

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What would the Electronics Package be priced at?

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That sucks ehh! Is there some sort of export tax built into that price? With the exchange rate at almost 1:1 our Nothern neighbors are getting hosed and that is before thier taxes.

 

 

 

Thats a fact , we are also getting hosed with a 13% tax on top of this . I haven't found any dealers here in Ontario that will go below MSRP , however , there is another member on this board from Alberta who told me he got his for under $60000 taxes in . I think he also had the Electronics package so he could havesaved himself somewhere in the region of $10000 .

Now thats one hell of a deal .

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The joy of having a socialized healthcare system. Gotta pay for it somehow. "Free" isn't Free. Sucks :(

 

 

at least nobody here would ever have to be rejected in an ER if they were dying due to no insurance. No wonder your country is in such economic straits as you would rather spend all your damn money on milatary than helping your own people with something useful and make your country a better place

 

just my two cents but I would rather pay a little more for my gt500 that I really dont need and live in a system that actaully seems to look after people better....rich or poor

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Thats a fact , we are also getting hosed with a 13% tax on top of this . I haven't found any dealers here in Ontario that will go below MSRP , however , there is another member on this board from Alberta who told me he got his for under $60000 taxes in . I think he also had the Electronics package so he could havesaved himself somewhere in the region of $10000 .

Now thats one hell of a deal .

 

 

 

I find that hard to believe as I got mine for invoice price from a friend that is a sales manager (i have the dealers invoice if anybody wants to say otherwise) and I paid $60,900 tax in which was $58,000 before tax for the math challenged.

 

If thats true that is a crazy price but I really doubt it, I would love to see there bill of sale

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at least nobody here would ever have to be rejected in an ER if they were dying due to no insurance.

 

 

As nobody would in the states, either. In fact, one of the costs putting so much pressure on health providers is the mandate to provide AT LEAST stabilizing care regardless of a patient's ability to pay - and people choose to use Emergency Rooms as their primary care.

 

On the other hand, if I were north of the border, it's not that I'd be worried about dying due to being denied services - it'd be that I might not survive the wait until service becomes available. I hear there's talk of a one-way emergency-only lane being added to the Ambassador Bridge heading out of Windsor for those who can't wait.

 

People DO love to heave moral pronouncements from the VERY cheap seats based upon sound bytes, don't they?

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at least nobody here would ever have to be rejected in an ER if they were dying due to no insurance. No wonder your country is in such economic straits as you would rather spend all your damn money on milatary than helping your own people with something useful and make your country a better place

 

just my two cents but I would rather pay a little more for my gt500 that I really dont need and live in a system that actaully seems to look after people better....rich or poor

 

 

Amen brotha!!!!

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l hear that... But the SVTPP was 3,000 plus at my dealer hear in Ont. 13% tax plus the car starts at +10 G's. Oh and get this, I can go to US buy a GT import it and save 10g's but the Shelby is on the inadmissible

 

list ?????? :headscratch::slapfight::banghead::redcard::censored:

 

2007-2011 SHELBY GT500'S ARE AN ADMISSABLE VEHICLES INTO CANADA FROM THE U.S I HAVE DONE IT MANY TIMES

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I find that hard to believe as I got mine for invoice price from a friend that is a sales manager (i have the dealers invoice if anybody wants to say otherwise) and I paid $60,900 tax in which was $58,000 before tax for the math challenged.

 

If thats true that is a crazy price but I really doubt it, I would love to see there bill of sale

 

At the time I bought my 2010 sticker was just over $59K and invoice was $55,973. I paid $55K plus tax which I felt was an OK but not great deal. Three months after I bought mine invoice price had dropped to around $52K. If you wait long enough you can always get a better deal. But as long as you're happy with your car and what you paid for it, that's all that matters. I got the car I wanted in the color I wanted at a decent price, so I'm a pretty happy guy. But damn the 12% HST tax in BC sucks!!

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I find that hard to believe as I got mine for invoice price from a friend that is a sales manager (i have the dealers invoice if anybody wants to say otherwise) and I paid $60,900 tax in which was $58,000 before tax for the math challenged.

 

If thats true that is a crazy price but I really doubt it, I would love to see there bill of sale

 

 

If you bought that car in Ontario for 58,000 it would cost you over 65,000 buy the time you got it out the door. That's nuts. My local dealer has a 10 vert fully loaded in his show room listed for 58,500 the 11vert's he has at least 4 are all over 65,000 plus tax. thats 73,000 + out the door, can anyone tell me why the car is 10g's plus north of the boarder our dollar is almost par?????

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If you bought that car in Ontario for 58,000 it would cost you over 65,000 buy the time you got it out the door. That's nuts. My local dealer has a 10 vert fully loaded in his show room listed for 58,500 the 11vert's he has at least 4 are all over 65,000 plus tax. thats 73,000 + out the door, can anyone tell me why the car is 10g's plus north of the boarder our dollar is almost par?????

 

I blame Quebec and all the crappy french labels Ford has to add to Canadian vehicles to comply. What really gets me is that many of the cool Sync features are unavailable in Canada due to services not being offered in french. I can't stand Quebec!!!

I'm sure the metric speedo also adds a few bucks. lol

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If you bought that car in Ontario for 58,000 it would cost you over 65,000 buy the time you got it out the door. That's nuts. My local dealer has a 10 vert fully loaded in his show room listed for 58,500 the 11vert's he has at least 4 are all over 65,000 plus tax. thats 73,000 + out the door, can anyone tell me why the car is 10g's plus north of the boarder our dollar is almost par?????

 

 

 

Thats what i was saying before . A fully optioned Coupe with all available bells and whistles was $67000 before taxes !!!!

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At the time I bought my 2010 sticker was just over $59K and invoice was $55,973. I paid $55K plus tax which I felt was an OK but not great deal. Three months after I bought mine invoice price had dropped to around $52K. If you wait long enough you can always get a better deal. But as long as you're happy with your car and what you paid for it, that's all that matters. I got the car I wanted in the color I wanted at a decent price, so I'm a pretty happy guy. But damn the 12% HST tax in BC sucks!!

 

 

sorry i thought they meant somebody got a 2011 track pck for 59k, he offered me a 2010 for 53,500 plus tax but i really wanted the new 2011 with the new track pck. Your price makes sense to me now

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As nobody would in the states, either. In fact, one of the costs putting so much pressure on health providers is the mandate to provide AT LEAST stabilizing care regardless of a patient's ability to pay - and people choose to use Emergency Rooms as their primary care.

 

On the other hand, if I were north of the border, it's not that I'd be worried about dying due to being denied services - it'd be that I might not survive the wait until service becomes available. I hear there's talk of a one-way emergency-only lane being added to the Ambassador Bridge heading out of Windsor for those who can't wait.

 

People DO love to heave moral pronouncements from the VERY cheap seats based upon sound bytes, don't they?

 

 

Sorry as i have never experieced these long waits. Just felt like firing back some random useless comments in the same manner as I read about our system.

 

I love how its okay to bash our system but I fire back a couple things and i am all of a sudden the idiot from the cheap seats.

:doh:

 

ps i bet you also think i have an igloo instead of a house and i spend most of my day hunting polar bears and avoiding flying hockey pucks. Oh dont forget also having to drive to the US to get your amazing health care.

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Sorry as i have never experieced these long waits. Just felt like firing back some random useless comments in the same manner as I read about our system.

 

I love how its okay to bash our system but I fire back a couple things and i am all of a sudden the idiot from the cheap seats.

:doh:

 

ps i bet you also think i have an igloo instead of a house and i spend most of my day hunting polar bears and avoiding flying hockey pucks. Oh dont forget also having to drive to the US to get your amazing health care.

 

 

Kwenarch.....are you sayin' that you DON'T live in an igloo? But, surely you forage for bear meat 'n' grease, and all that! Don'tcha? I don't know about hockey puck dodging though....that's more a yankee thing.....Ohio and Michigan, and all those other alien places somewhere the hell up North of the Mason-Dixon line.

 

Have a warm day

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Your right, it's crazy man 67 with 13 points on top is over 74 grand for a car the Yanks can buy for 50 plus tax.... What up with that?

 

 

 

That was my point on an earlier thread were i said if you are looking for " Cheap speed " , the new 5.0 with Rousch SC , even here in Good Ole Canada can be had for about $45000 . Now , figure the cost saving against a new Shelby !! Granted the 5.0 does not look as " cool " as the Shelby but the sheer value of the new 5.0's is hard to ignore . Used Shelby or Brand new 5.0 with SC ???

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Why do you guys have to water down a topic with political banter? Who cares, eh? :hysterical: Sorry, had to throw an eh in there.

 

Everybody in every country of the world has it all figured out, and we poor dumb fools in the US are completely backwards. Got it...move on.

 

Then when the :fan: we get called in to do the world's dirty work because everyone else had OTHER priorites and let things get outta hand. Oh, and we get to pay for that too. You are right, if we didnt have to be the worlds police, we could probably afford to cover own people for healthcare, but keeping the world safe has become a forgotten and thankless responsibility of ours.

 

I LOVE Canada, and you have a gorgeous country I would love to visit any time. But lets leave the US bashing at the doorstep when you walk into a US forum to talk about a US made car. Just remember, if not for us, you would probably be driving a Renault.

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Why do you guys have to water down a topic with political banter? Who cares, eh? :hysterical: Sorry, had to throw an eh in there.

 

Everybody in every country of the world has it all figured out, and we poor dumb fools in the US are completely backwards. Got it...move on.

 

Then when the :fan: we get called in to do the world's dirty work because everyone else had OTHER priorites and let things get outta hand. Oh, and we get to pay for that too. You are right, if we didnt have to be the worlds police, we could probably afford to cover own people for healthcare, but keeping the world safe has become a forgotten and thankless responsibility of ours.

 

I LOVE Canada, and you have a gorgeous country I would love to visit any time. But lets leave the US bashing at the doorstep when you walk into a US forum to talk about a US made car. Just remember, if not for us, you would probably be driving a Renault.

 

 

 

Warren - scoreboard!! Even with the Socialist in the White House and his statement "whether we like it or not, we are still a Superpower....etc" , at leat he states we still are a Superpower...I seem to hear all the time about leaders of other countries coming to the US for needed health care...can't remember the last time I heard of anyone going to Canada for a serious medical condition to be fixed.

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Why do you guys have to water down a topic with political banter? Who cares, eh? hysterical.gif Sorry, had to throw an eh in there.

 

Everybody in every country of the world has it all figured out, and we poor dumb fools in the US are completely backwards. Got it...move on.

 

Then when the fan.gif we get called in to do the world's dirty work because everyone else had OTHER priorites and let things get outta hand. Oh, and we get to pay for that too. You are right, if we didnt have to be the worlds police, we could probably afford to cover own people for healthcare, but keeping the world safe has become a forgotten and thankless responsibility of ours.

 

I LOVE Canada, and you have a gorgeous country I would love to visit any time. But lets leave the US bashing at the doorstep when you walk into a US forum to talk about a US made car. Just remember, if not for us, you would probably be driving a Renault.

 

 

Be nice now , i drove / owned a Renault Fuego when i lived in England . As for the bashing each Country , come on , just gettalong .

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at least nobody here would ever have to be rejected in an ER if they were dying due to no insurance. No wonder your country is in such economic straits as you would rather spend all your damn money on milatary than helping your own people with something useful and make your country a better place

 

just my two cents but I would rather pay a little more for my gt500 that I really dont need and live in a system that actaully seems to look after people better....rich or poor

 

 

Whoa there Mapleleaf! What's wrong with the US Military? Just because your GT500 taxes are off the scale there is no reason to slam our Military.

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Not to mention the fact that Mapleleaf continues to get things wrong in that no U.S. hospital can reject a patient who requires emergency care, regardless of their ability to pay, and is required to provide stabilizing care as part of the fundamental criteria required for them to operate as a hospital. Not to mention the single largest burden upon the social aspects of America's health care system is that fully 20% of its cost come from so-called "treatment" provided during the last two months of life, with absolutely no hope of extending or improving the quality of life remaining, by patients and families (and doctors) who want every conceivable effort made - which Medicare (and many Medicaid programs) CANNOT refuse to reimburse regardless of reason or cost - and the only reason it occurs is people's complete detachment from having to consider any immediate consequence of the decisions the make because somebody else receives, and pays, the bill (which, in America, falls to a disproportionately small percentage of the population, compared to the disproportionately large percentage - almost half - who have absolutely NO Federal tax burden each year).

 

Nationalized healthcare always sounds like the great panacea until it hits the brick wall of reality that's the fate of all programs of its kind - it runs out of OTHER people's money to spend and people have already hit the tax saturation point. Without an economy like Saudi Arabia - that exists upon a near-endless quantities of a salable commodity flowing from the earth to fund its indulgences - the endpoint is inevitably the same. Except by then, people have become accustomed to the additional entitlement - particularly those who tend to place the highest demand, rather than make the largest contribution, to it - and even the most strident freedom preachers begin advocating such radical "ends justifies the means" measures that the threat from within becomes FAR greater than the Soviets ever were. Not to mention it places already-difficult personal decisions in the hands of itinerant bureaucrats.

 

Yeah, sign me up for some of that - right after I walk into a spinning propeller.

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Not to mention the fact that Mapleleaf continues to get things wrong in that no U.S. hospital can reject a patient who requires emergency care, regardless of their ability to pay, and is required to provide stabilizing care as part of the fundamental criteria required for them to operate as a hospital. Not to mention the single largest burden upon the social aspects of America's health care system is that fully 20% of its cost come from so-called "treatment" provided during the last two months of life, with absolutely no hope of extending or improving the quality of life remaining, by patients and families (and doctors) who want every conceivable effort made - which Medicare (and many Medicaid programs) CANNOT refuse to reimburse regardless of reason or cost - and the only reason it occurs is people's complete detachment from having to consider any immediate consequence of the decisions the make because somebody else receives, and pays, the bill (which, in America, falls to a disproportionately small percentage of the population, compared to the disproportionately large percentage - almost half - who have absolutely NO Federal tax burden each year).

 

Nationalized healthcare always sounds like the great panacea until it hits the brick wall of reality that's the fate of all programs of its kind - it runs out of OTHER people's money to spend and people have already hit the tax saturation point. Without an economy like Saudi Arabia - that exists upon a near-endless quantities of a salable commodity flowing from the earth to fund its indulgences - the endpoint is inevitably the same. Except by then, people have become accustomed to the additional entitlement - particularly those who tend to place the highest demand, rather than make the largest contribution, to it - and even the most strident freedom preachers begin advocating such radical "ends justifies the means" measures that the threat from within becomes FAR greater than the Soviets ever were. Not to mention it places already-difficult personal decisions in the hands of itinerant bureaucrats.

 

Yeah, sign me up for some of that - right after I walk into a spinning propeller.

 

 

Yeah and if you didnt catch on I was messing around with my statements to get a rise out of you patriotic Americans after I read about how terrible our system is.

 

I was kidding around relax.

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Yeah and if you didnt catch on I was messing around with my statements to get a rise out of you patriotic Americans after I read about how terrible our system is.

 

I was kidding around relax.

 

And oh thank you all powerfull and merciful Americans for saving us from the evil forces of the world. What would we do without you :salute:

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