Run in with the law - pics

[Cdvision]

I was harassed by the Cops in Surrey- I pulled into the car lot for a car show at Hallmark Ford and I was told I had to park across the street, so I backed out of the lot and pulled into the lot across the street and the 2 cop cars (one marked and an unmarked mini-van) converge on me like I'm some kind of bank robber!!! I guess a few minutes earlier some clown did a burnout and they were trying to pin it on me. People came from the show and were yelling at the cops "You've got the wrong car!!" The cops were trying to say that my car (with stock mufflers) is very loud and that I was driving aggressive. lol. I told them to get real!! Then the woman cop apologizes to me and they take off. Dummies!! One guy I know snapped a couple pics and sent them to me. Priceless! I did nothing wrong so the wife and I had no idea that we were even being pulled over. Sometimes the GT500 gets a little to much attention. lol

 

 

[Burning Blue Star IV]

That's something else, Cdvision...Are the police always that aggressive or strict? I sort of wish the ones around here were that way about some things that happen in the neighborhood. A least you got things straightened out.

 

That Grabber Blue sure does "pop" in photos.

 

Maybe that female cop was just hoping for a ride in your car and got mad when she saw your wife with you and decided to give you a hard time?

[SGT0128]

Sounds like they did their job, they had reasonable suspicion that it was your car, conducted a short and sweet investigation, determined it was not you and cut you you loose. BTW, you car looks great in Grabber Blue.

[Cdvision]

Sounds like they did their job, they had reasonable suspicion that it was your car, conducted a short and sweet investigation, determined it was not you and cut you you loose. BTW, you car looks great in Grabber Blue.

 

Reasonable suspicion??? They watched me back out of one parking lot and pull into another one across the street. No funny business involved on my part at all. The female cop even apologized for her "over zealous" partner. The car that was reported to them for doing a burnout was a grey car. Big difference from Grabber Blue to grey.

[F150 Duke]

Sounds like they did their job, they had reasonable suspicion that it was your car, conducted a short and sweet investigation, determined it was not you and cut you you loose. BTW, you car looks great in Grabber Blue.

 

 

I have to disagree. Unless they witnessed him doing a burn out, the only thing they have is heresay evidence. Heresay evidence that doesn't even include the right paint color of the car. What happened was profiling because the car sounds fast and "loud" so it must be him who is the trouble maker. The only thing they did was profiling and harrassment. The police around here in Minnesota are the same way. They should focus less on following me around while I'm quietly going to JoAnn fabrics, Target and other suburbia hell stores with my wife on a Sunday and focus more on the guy driving 55 in a Jeep through my neighborhood.

[SGT0128]

WOW, this is turning bad quick, one last statement from me and I’m done with it. OK, your entitled to your opinion here, I also have one and it doesn't mean anything because I wasn't there to see, hear, or smell what happened. We are just getting one side of the story (not that it’s wrong), we have no idea what the officers were dispatched to, saw, heard, smelled or were informed of from bystanders.

 

I’m no forums criminal or constitutional attorney but I do understand the difference between probable cause and reasonable suspicion for a stop. I’m not looking to get into a forums war with anyone, but I do have an opinion about police officers. The vast majority (not all, as in any profession) are honest hard working men and women trying to do the job they were hired to do and are willing to come to any of our rescue without question anytime of the day or night. I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for a simple traffic stop. I’ve have probably broken a traffic law everyday I drive on the street as do most drivers, and have been stopped on more that one occasion and issued a warning when I really should have gotten a ticket.

 

Just because the officer apologized doesn’t mean she was wrong, it may have been the officers way of politely ending the conversation. BTW, if your having speeding problems in your neighborhood, call the department, I’ll bet they will work some traffic on your street. I’m out, sorry for the rant.

[TX08SS]

It sounds like the officer was given some bad information and just followed up on it. She spoke to you and then let you go. I'm sure you didn't call her a "dummy "when you were speaking with her face to face, but hey, whatever makes you feel like a man.

[glroy]

I was harassed by the Cops in Surrey- I pulled into the car lot for a car show at Hallmark Ford and I was told I had to park across the street, so I backed out of the lot and pulled into the lot across the street and the 2 cop cars (one marked and an unmarked mini-van) converge on me like I'm some kind of bank robber!!! I guess a few minutes earlier some clown did a burnout and they were trying to pin it on me. People came from the show and were yelling at the cops "You've got the wrong car!!" The cops were trying to say that my car (with stock mufflers) is very loud and that I was driving aggressive. lol. I told them to get real!! Then the woman cop apologizes to me and they take off. Dummies!! One guy I know snapped a couple pics and sent them to me. Priceless! I did nothing wrong so the wife and I had no idea that we were even being pulled over. Sometimes the GT500 gets a little to much attention. lol

 

 

 

 

FYI

on the loud mufflers

check the BC Motor vehicle act and carry a copy of the muffler regs in the car

it says X DB at X feet and tested at an approved testing facility (I have not been able to find a an approved facility on the island!!!

and don't let them try to lay the commercial vehicle stuff on a pleasure car

[Cali_KR]

One Adam12, one Adam12, 2-11 in progress, see the woman....

 

BC cops are tough, I grew up there and never caught a break, of course during my initial driving years, (16 to 23 years old), I drove like a jack-ass most of the time, and deserved everything I got

 

I understand they have a zero tolerance speeding policy now, but I'm 25 years removed....

[Tob]

I thought that female cops in Canada were supposed to be hot and not just corn fed!

 

Yikes!

[Cdvision]

It sounds like the officer was given some bad information and just followed up on it. She spoke to you and then let you go. I'm sure you didn't call her a "dummy "when you were speaking with her face to face, but hey, whatever makes you feel like a man.

 

Pretty rude, ignorant remark. But whatever makes you feel like a man. lol

I was pretty blunt and not very polite to the officer as I had done nothing wrong. They did ask for my license and registration (standard procedure) and held me up for a good 10 min. People in the crowd across the street and in the lot we were pulled over in were yelling some rather unkind remarks to the cops as they knew what was going on. I wonder what might of happened if the crowd wasn't so boisterous and if I had no witnesses.. The cops(RCMP) in Surrey have bigger problems to deal with other than harassing auto enthusiasts. I live two block from a police station in Metro Vancouver and drive by the police station several times a day and have never been hassled, even when I have actually been a little aggressive on the throttle.I guess what I'm saying is that if I'm guilty and deserve to be pulled over that's fine. But when I did nothing wrong, then I have a problem with that.

[springer]

Sounds like an episode of Dragnet. Book 'em Daniel. Oh, wrong show - sorry.

[supersnake94]

Hey C, have you ever also had a run in with those crazy bylaw officers too?

 

 

 

Thank goodness that your car wasn't the car that did the burnout and that you also didn't get a ticket.

[Cdvision]

Hey C, have you ever also had a run in with those crazy bylaw officers too?

 

 

 

Thank goodness that your car wasn't the car that did the burnout and that you also didn't get a ticket.

 

 

If I had done a burnout they probably would have tasered me and impounded my car. lol

[Cdvision]

FYI

on the loud mufflers

check the BC Motor vehicle act and carry a copy of the muffler regs in the car

it says X DB at X feet and tested at an approved testing facility (I have not been able to find a an approved facility on the island!!!

and don't let them try to lay the commercial vehicle stuff on a pleasure car

 

I actually laughed out loud when she told me the car was loud. Then I started it up and reved the engine a few times and asked her if she "really" thought it was loud. She prompty changed the line of questioning.

[PistolWhip]

Cops are not robots people, they're humans. Sometimes they make mistakes, get bad info, act on impulse, act on instinct and sometimes they do things that they shouldn't do.... JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD! So the HUMAN cop made a mistake based on information that your not privy to... Maybe she got a call for a blue car doing a burnt out, maybe she "thought she saw your car" doing something it wasn't supposed to do, maybe none of this occurred and she just acted on impulse or instinct, but the bottom line is that no matter the reason, you didn't get a ticket or held against your will for any serious length of time. She didn't abuse her powers, pull you out of the car for no reason, read you a riot act or try to break your stones excessively so why is it something to be proud of that you were "pretty blunt and not very polite to the officer?" I mean really? Did you ever stop to think, maybe she just made a mistake, maybe I should treat her with respect as I expect to be treated. Maybe if I just put myself in her shoes for a second and realize that she's pretty much damed if she does and damed if she doesn't, I'd have a little more understanding and be able to be a little more polite to another HUMAN BEING.

If a nurse ran up to your car and stopped you because she thought maybe you were choking on something, would you have treated her impolitely? If it was a fireman that thought he saw flames coming from under your car, ran up and started trying to pull you to safety, would you have been blunt and impolite? No you would have laughed it off as a mistake and thanked him or her for their service. But because it was a cop, you were "impolite and blunt.."

 

The bottom line is this; yes Police Officers have much better things to do when its not YOUR COMPLAINT that they're following up on. If you called and complained that someone was racing up and down your street, and they told you "sorry, we have much better things to do than chase an auto enthusiast that's racing down your street" you'd lose your mind and write a 100 letters, and make 100 phone calls and want the cops badge. But when its not your call, but your car, it's a major problem and they should be "out fighting real crime." Like I said, damed if they do and damed if they don't.

[glroy]

lucky you didn't get nailed for no front plate

 

I got stopped by the local saanich police for failing to signal

why would I signal when I am going straight ???

the cop did the standard lic and reg and then asked how to pronounce my last name, I said ROY, when he returned my papers he call me MR WOY ( the french Pronunciation) at the point I looked him strait in the eye for the first time . he was a snotty nosed little kid.

 

My mistake I had my top up and he could not see I was a gray haired old fart. driving as the DD I have had 3 other gray hairs in the car in the wee hours of the morning they race up take a look at all the gray hairs and move along.

[Cdvision]

Cops are not robots people, they're humans. Sometimes they make mistakes, get bad info, act on impulse, act on instinct and sometimes they do things that they shouldn't do.... JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD! So the HUMAN cop made a mistake based on information that your not privy to... Maybe she got a call for a blue car doing a burnt out, maybe she "thought she saw your car" doing something it wasn't supposed to do, maybe none of this occurred and she just acted on impulse or instinct, but the bottom line is that no matter the reason, you didn't get a ticket or held against your will for any serious length of time. She didn't abuse her powers, pull you out of the car for no reason, read you a riot act or try to break your stones excessively so why is it something to be proud of that you were "pretty blunt and not very polite to the officer?" I mean really? Did you ever stop to think, maybe she just made a mistake, maybe I should treat her with respect as I expect to be treated. Maybe if I just put myself in her shoes for a second and realize that she's pretty much damed if she does and damed if she doesn't, I'd have a little more understanding and be able to be a little more polite to another HUMAN BEING.

If a nurse ran up to your car and stopped you because she thought maybe you were choking on something, would you have treated her impolitely? If it was a fireman that thought he saw flames coming from under your car, ran up and started trying to pull you to safety, would you have been blunt and impolite? No you would have laughed it off as a mistake and thanked him or her for their service. But because it was a cop, you were "impolite and blunt.."

 

The bottom line is this; yes Police Officers have much better things to do when its not YOUR COMPLAINT that they're following up on. If you called and complained that someone was racing up and down your street, and they told you "sorry, we have much better things to do than chase an auto enthusiast that's racing down your street" you'd lose your mind and write a 100 letters, and make 100 phone calls and want the cops badge. But when its not your call, but your car, it's a major problem and they should be "out fighting real crime." Like I said, damed if they do and damed if they don't.

 

 

 

I'm sure the law enforcement members of this forum will be a bit put off by my statements. Usually I am very polite to anyone in any type of service position. But under this circumstance I found it difficult. They had a complaint that a "Grey"car did a burnout, well Grabber Blue is not grey. lol You were not in my shoes so flaming me is totally unnecessary. You were not there and do not know what went down. Plus part of what you are quoting was not writen by me. Like the part about "YOUR COMPLAINT that they're following up on. If you called and complained that someone was racing up and down your street, and they told you "sorry, we have much better things to do than chase an auto enthusiast that's racing down your street" you'd lose your mind and write a 100 letters, and make 100 phone calls and want the cops badge. But when its not your call, but your car, it's a major problem and they should be "out fighting real crime." Like I said, damed if they do and damed if they don't."

I didn't say that stuff highlighted in bold. Go back and read the whole thread. lol

I'm really not an a-hole and I get what you're saying. The majority of cops out there are excellent and do an awesome job and yes sometimes good cops make mistakes. We all make mistakes from time to time and I'm just venting a little. So try to cut me some slack. It's really not a big deal. Plus quotes in this thread are getting misquoted and taken out of context.

Peace!!

[Cdvision]

lucky you didn't get nailed for no front plate

 

 

They commented about no front plate. But I have the receipt for my bracket that shows it's on order and they cut me some slack. I'm getting the retractable bracket. Front plates look terrible on these cars and restrict airflow through the heat exchanger,

[TheKurgan]

Just arm everyone and then there will be no need for cops.

[supersnake94]

If I had done a burnout they probably would have tasered me and impounded my car. lol

 

True

But still, Canadian bylaw officers; trying to get people into trouble for stuff that they didn't do.

 

 

Not making fun of the Canadians, just the bylaw. There are many videos out there on youtube about them busting your chops or what not. (no offence for TS members who are part of the canadian law enforcement)

[supersnake94]

They commented about no front plate. But I have the receipt for my bracket that shows it's on order and they cut me some slack. I'm getting the retractable bracket. Front plates look terrible on these cars and restrict airflow through the heat exchanger,

 

+1

[PistolWhip]

I'm sure the law enforcement members of this forum will be a bit put off by my statements. Usually I am very polite to anyone in any type of service position. But under this circumstance I found it difficult. They had a complaint that a "Grey"car did a burnout, well Grabber Blue is not grey. lol You were not in my shoes so flaming me is totally unnecessary. You were not there and do not know what went down. Plus part of what you are quoting was not writen by me. Like the part about "YOUR COMPLAINT that they're following up on. If you called and complained that someone was racing up and down your street, and they told you "sorry, we have much better things to do than chase an auto enthusiast that's racing down your street" you'd lose your mind and write a 100 letters, and make 100 phone calls and want the cops badge. But when its not your call, but your car, it's a major problem and they should be "out fighting real crime." Like I said, damed if they do and damed if they don't."

I didn't say that stuff highlighted in bold. Go back and read the whole thread. lol

I'm really not an a-hole and I get what you're saying. The majority of cops out there are excellent and do an awesome job and yes sometimes good cops make mistakes. We all make mistakes from time to time and I'm just venting a little. So try to cut me some slack. It's really not a big deal. Plus quotes in this thread are getting misquoted and taken out of context.

Peace!!

 

 

I wasn't quoting you I was simply making a point based on yours and other sentiments in this thread. I'm not taking offense to something that I had nothing to do with, just simply showing the other side of the coin. A few things to consider the next time your stopped or questioned by a police officer: They are people just like you, trying to do a job that's not always very popular with everyone that they need to do it with and almost every time they do it, they are told by someone who's never done it before that they're doing it wrong. They have to wear a bullet proof vest to work because people want to kill them, that's not an environment that usually lends to a chipper and cheerful greeting. I'm not defending improper or disrespectful behavior, but it's not prudent to lighten your mood or become distracted before you understand the entire situation and feel comfortable with the environment. Lastly, over 75% of the people that cops deal with on a day to day basis are the absolute scum of the earth that would piss in your eye if they thought it would get them a half of a cigarette. It's not aways easy to discern the type of person your dealing with by simple appearance and sometimes the first impression can set the tone of the entire situation on both sides. On the cops side, it's not always an attitude or disrespect, it may simply be a "feeling out" tactic. Sometimes if you show a little respect and understanding, you will find a very compassionate and empathetic person behind the uniform and badge. I'm not saying that you have to go out of your way to kill them with kindness just because they're cops, but simply reserving your first instinct to lash out and staying on an even keel can go a long way.

Keep in mind I said SOMETIMES! Just like any other career or walk of life for that matter, there are dick heads that wear badges and with that small percentage, you may not be able to "win" either way, but getting upset and / or disrespectful will only make matters worse and if it doesn't end up with more charges, it will end up in a few minutes of stress that you don't need in your life.

 

Again, this is all just friendly advice, you can take it or leave it, but I'm one of those guys that wrestles with my conscious every day. I'm a firm constitutionalist that believes in true freedom, I love God, family and Country and hate when anyone attempts to institutionalize me. I have the same natural affinity toward "anti-system" beliefs that many of you have, but at the same time I'm a Police Officer with a lot of pride in myself, my career and my badge that believes the world needs some rules, regulations and laws to keep the "other half" where they belong. I try very hard to walk both lines every day and sometimes the person on the other end benefits greatly because of it, other times they don't, but I'm consistent and fair and give people every bit of the rope they need to either climb out of trouble or wrap it around their necks and choke themselves. Either way, I sleep very well at night knowing that I work hard to make sure others can "forget" just how dangerous living is.

[TX08SS]

I wasn't quoting you I was simply making a point based on yours and other sentiments in this thread. I'm not taking offense to something that I had nothing to do with, just simply showing the other side of the coin. A few things to consider the next time your stopped or questioned by a police officer: They are people just like you, trying to do a job that's not always very popular with everyone that they need to do it with and almost every time they do it, they are told by someone who's never done it before that they're doing it wrong. They have to wear a bullet proof vest to work because people want to kill them, that's not an environment that usually lends to a chipper and cheerful greeting. I'm not defending improper or disrespectful behavior, but it's not prudent to lighten your mood or become distracted before you understand the entire situation and feel comfortable with the environment. Lastly, over 75% of the people that cops deal with on a day to day basis are the absolute scum of the earth that would piss in your eye if they thought it would get them a half of a cigarette. It's not aways easy to discern the type of person your dealing with by simple appearance and sometimes the first impression can set the tone of the entire situation on both sides. On the cops side, it's not always an attitude or disrespect, it may simply be a "feeling out" tactic. Sometimes if you show a little respect and understanding, you will find a very compassionate and empathetic person behind the uniform and badge. I'm not saying that you have to go out of your way to kill them with kindness just because they're cops, but simply reserving your first instinct to lash out and staying on an even keel can go a long way.

Keep in mind I said SOMETIMES! Just like any other career or walk of life for that matter, there are dick heads that wear badges and with that small percentage, you may not be able to "win" either way, but getting upset and / or disrespectful will only make matters worse and if it doesn't end up with more charges, it will end up in a few minutes of stress that you don't need in your life.

 

Again, this is all just friendly advice, you can take it or leave it, but I'm one of those guys that wrestles with my conscious every day. I'm a firm constitutionalist that believes in true freedom, I love God, family and Country and hate when anyone attempts to institutionalize me. I have the same natural affinity toward "anti-system" beliefs that many of you have, but at the same time I'm a Police Officer with a lot of pride in myself, my career and my badge that believes the world needs some rules, regulations and laws to keep the "other half" where they belong. I try very hard to walk both lines every day and sometimes the person on the other end benefits greatly because of it, other times they don't, but I'm consistent and fair and give people every bit of the rope they need to either climb out of trouble or wrap it around their necks and choke themselves. Either way, I sleep very well at night knowing that I work hard to make sure others can "forget" just how dangerous living is.

 

 

 

Damn Pistol! I was on the verge of tears after reading your post'. I thank you for speaking up.

[03reptile]

Damn Pistol! I was on the verge of tears after reading your post'. I thank you for speaking up.

 

 

A well thought-out and presented reply. I've also taken up the mantle when someone presents a one-sided scenero about a law enforcement experience. Thankfully, 99% of our group understand there are two sides to these renditions and don't rush to judgement. 35 years in law enforcement sure taught me to gather all information before making a decision. Thanks for your service. Retirement is good! Take care and be safe.

[TheKurgan]

I wasn't quoting you I was simply making a point based on yours and other sentiments in this thread. I'm not taking offense to something that I had nothing to do with, just simply showing the other side of the coin. A few things to consider the next time your stopped or questioned by a police officer: They are people just like you, trying to do a job that's not always very popular with everyone that they need to do it with and almost every time they do it, they are told by someone who's never done it before that they're doing it wrong. They have to wear a bullet proof vest to work because people want to kill them, that's not an environment that usually lends to a chipper and cheerful greeting. I'm not defending improper or disrespectful behavior, but it's not prudent to lighten your mood or become distracted before you understand the entire situation and feel comfortable with the environment. Lastly, over 75% of the people that cops deal with on a day to day basis are the absolute scum of the earth that would piss in your eye if they thought it would get them a half of a cigarette. It's not aways easy to discern the type of person your dealing with by simple appearance and sometimes the first impression can set the tone of the entire situation on both sides. On the cops side, it's not always an attitude or disrespect, it may simply be a "feeling out" tactic. Sometimes if you show a little respect and understanding, you will find a very compassionate and empathetic person behind the uniform and badge. I'm not saying that you have to go out of your way to kill them with kindness just because they're cops, but simply reserving your first instinct to lash out and staying on an even keel can go a long way.

Keep in mind I said SOMETIMES! Just like any other career or walk of life for that matter, there are dick heads that wear badges and with that small percentage, you may not be able to "win" either way, but getting upset and / or disrespectful will only make matters worse and if it doesn't end up with more charges, it will end up in a few minutes of stress that you don't need in your life.

 

Again, this is all just friendly advice, you can take it or leave it, but I'm one of those guys that wrestles with my conscious every day. I'm a firm constitutionalist that believes in true freedom, I love God, family and Country and hate when anyone attempts to institutionalize me. I have the same natural affinity toward "anti-system" beliefs that many of you have, but at the same time I'm a Police Officer with a lot of pride in myself, my career and my badge that believes the world needs some rules, regulations and laws to keep the "other half" where they belong. I try very hard to walk both lines every day and sometimes the person on the other end benefits greatly because of it, other times they don't, but I'm consistent and fair and give people every bit of the rope they need to either climb out of trouble or wrap it around their necks and choke themselves. Either way, I sleep very well at night knowing that I work hard to make sure others can "forget" just how dangerous living is.

 

 

Typical cop BS. Why don't you try showing people some respect by NOT telling them what to do.

[Cali_KR]

Typical cop BS. Why don't you try showing people some respect by NOT telling them what to do.

 

 

Did you read his post? or just saw 'I'm a police officer" and stopped there?

[TheKurgan]

Did you read his post? or just saw 'I'm a police officer" and stopped there?

 

 

Unfortunately, every word of it. The OP did nothing wrong AT ALL and in true cop form, one shows up later and starts telling the guy what he did wrong and what he should do the next time. Why don't you and your copy buddy concentrate your efforts on someone who is actually breaking the law for once.

[10random]

Typical cop BS. Why don't you try showing people some respect by NOT telling them what to do.

 

 

And there you go proving his point Quick to lash out and increase tension with further BS. An officer has to control the scene during a stop/incident, etc in the interest of everyone's safety. If you're attitude and lack of maturity are too short sighted to see this then sucks to be you.

[OCD]

Edmonton car show exits!!

 

 

 

No police hassle...